30-07-2013, 09:32
(This post was last modified: 30-07-2013, 09:41 by LookingForward2NBE.)
Thought I would share a couple of observations now that I'm 20weeks plus. I have been taking 1-2tbsp of alfalfa during my 2nd trimester and now that I've started my 3rd will be ramping up the dose until 2-3 weeks before my due date. I have goats rue and fg on hand if I need when I commence breast feeding.
1. NBE is a slow process. With extremely high, through the roof levels of estrogen its just now that I have seen significant enhancement (around 1 cup size). So don't expect immediate results. Definitely see it as a year long process to see some results and probably a 2-3yr journey. No short cuts.
Granted, my areola's are huge and darker and my nipples have definitely gotten bigger and preparing for lactation.
So now looking at NBE, as I figured just focusing on phtyoestrogen is probably too limiting for the majority of women. As for cycling phytoestrogens, now I'm not so sure... If keeping to a regular cycle or just continuing throughout the month is better.
2. I think and figured as much before that phytoprogesterones and prolactin play a far more substantial role in growth for glandular and fat recruitment. So pituatary glandular as well as placenta supplementation probably a much more important role then is ever given credit. As important as estrogen is for expansion of tissues, the other hormones fill in the breast framework.
3. Support factors such as healthy fats, collagen and cell turnover supplements are just as important.
4. Based on how women grow during pregnancy, its probably a good model for women to follow looking for NBE.
Quickly boost estro through the roof your 1st month.
Add glandulars for growth factors and other mRNA, DNA, aminos, proteins after 2 months.
Booth progesterone and prolactin around month 4.
The quick rampup of estrogen could prime your system for growth vs.a slow increase which your body may down regulate. Use the most phytoestrogen, which means P. Mirifica. No reason to play around with lesser potent herb unless you don't respond to it.
5. Fenugreek in my opinion from all literature I've read is a minor player. Its the most talked about but mostly from foklore. It works for some but the responders are way way less who find it ineffective. Dosing is very high so get to 6+ grams if doing nbe.
6. Use goat's rue. I would do it first as a tincture and apply it as a massage with dmso\aloe mix as the carrier. Avoid areola's entirely including nipples.
7. Considering drinking lots and lots of alfalfa leaf tea. Its highly nutritious and could help.
8. Eat some Brazil nuts for selenium and glutathione enhancement. Eat apricots. Eat nuts like walnuts. Eat Pumpkin seeds. A spoonful of sesame seeds could be helpful in kefir, yogurt etc.
9. Make and consume beef bone + chicken carcacus feet head broth and consume some daily for growth promoters and nourishment.
So I see it as, estro ramp up fast and a lot 1st for tissue expansion and then fill it in with prolactin and progesterone then slowly wean, rest and do it again..
The fast ramping up is what triggers body to grow.
But don't forget to support tissue growth by feeding it collagen, amino's and glandular substances and fats.
1. NBE is a slow process. With extremely high, through the roof levels of estrogen its just now that I have seen significant enhancement (around 1 cup size). So don't expect immediate results. Definitely see it as a year long process to see some results and probably a 2-3yr journey. No short cuts.
Granted, my areola's are huge and darker and my nipples have definitely gotten bigger and preparing for lactation.
So now looking at NBE, as I figured just focusing on phtyoestrogen is probably too limiting for the majority of women. As for cycling phytoestrogens, now I'm not so sure... If keeping to a regular cycle or just continuing throughout the month is better.
2. I think and figured as much before that phytoprogesterones and prolactin play a far more substantial role in growth for glandular and fat recruitment. So pituatary glandular as well as placenta supplementation probably a much more important role then is ever given credit. As important as estrogen is for expansion of tissues, the other hormones fill in the breast framework.
3. Support factors such as healthy fats, collagen and cell turnover supplements are just as important.
4. Based on how women grow during pregnancy, its probably a good model for women to follow looking for NBE.
Quickly boost estro through the roof your 1st month.
Add glandulars for growth factors and other mRNA, DNA, aminos, proteins after 2 months.
Booth progesterone and prolactin around month 4.
The quick rampup of estrogen could prime your system for growth vs.a slow increase which your body may down regulate. Use the most phytoestrogen, which means P. Mirifica. No reason to play around with lesser potent herb unless you don't respond to it.
5. Fenugreek in my opinion from all literature I've read is a minor player. Its the most talked about but mostly from foklore. It works for some but the responders are way way less who find it ineffective. Dosing is very high so get to 6+ grams if doing nbe.
6. Use goat's rue. I would do it first as a tincture and apply it as a massage with dmso\aloe mix as the carrier. Avoid areola's entirely including nipples.
7. Considering drinking lots and lots of alfalfa leaf tea. Its highly nutritious and could help.
8. Eat some Brazil nuts for selenium and glutathione enhancement. Eat apricots. Eat nuts like walnuts. Eat Pumpkin seeds. A spoonful of sesame seeds could be helpful in kefir, yogurt etc.
9. Make and consume beef bone + chicken carcacus feet head broth and consume some daily for growth promoters and nourishment.
So I see it as, estro ramp up fast and a lot 1st for tissue expansion and then fill it in with prolactin and progesterone then slowly wean, rest and do it again..
The fast ramping up is what triggers body to grow.
But don't forget to support tissue growth by feeding it collagen, amino's and glandular substances and fats.