[Sammy95]

Thanks kaitlyn9 its good to get someone elses advice and opinion especially when they have a better understanding of how the herbs affect your hormones.

I have been reading the thread about chiyomilk which ia rather fascinating. If true she had amazing success. A couple of things i wondered though and i am not sure if you can answer this but i wondered why during her luteal phase she took a product still containing phyestrogens but weaker versions ie.fenugreek, saw palmetto and red clover, as i understand the luteal phase is when you should take herbs to influence progesterone? She also takes pig placenta + HA during luteal phase....do you know why?

I have been reading endless info on here, i feel like i have been glued to it for the last week, im finding it all both fascinating but also rather mind boggling at times trying to retain all the information.

I am still trying to figure out what i should be taking during the luteal phase, any ideas would be great. In the mean time its read read read.

Thanks again.

Hey, glad I can help!

The reason for taking a weaker estrogenic herb during luteal is to still maintain proper levels. Estrogen is still present during luteal but is much lower than progesterone. So if you were to significantly raise your progesterone yet do nothing to raise your estrogen, you'd have a hormone imbalance. For instance, when I took Ainterol PM during follicular, I would get these persistent dull headaches. I was getting too much estrogen, so id use a little PC cream to help re-balance.

Pig placenta is very close to a humans and it contains a lot of human growth hormones that is helpful for NBE. I'm going to start use sheep placenta to obtain higher levels of HGH.

Something to use during luteal is defiantly PC! Its helped me greatly!

And keep reading! I know its a lot to try to wrap your brain around, but eventually it becomes very easy to understand once you familiarize yourself with everything.

Thanks kaitlyn9, that makes perfect sense. I wonder if i already have a hormonal inbalance as my period isnt always regular. My last cycle lasted 46 days, im not sure what that means though, im still reading up on that side of things, im thinking maybe not enough estrogen.

What would be classed as a lower dose of PM for luteal phase? i have got some fenugreek with each capsule containing 500mg but i know that it is not as strong as PM, so im trying to figure out what dose i should be taking that in during luteal.

I have also been reading up on PC, a lot of mixed opinions on whether or not that should be used atal, some say it can slow down any growth and make PM less effective as it makes your estrogen receptors too sensitive, some say to use every few months for a few days, others say to use it every month. I have also read that you should apply it to a different part of the body everyday when using it, is this right?

I was also thinking about purchasing the placenta, i have read a few scary things about ingesting HGH though, but then im thinking maybe this is in small doses so shouldnt cause too many issues, i need to read up abit more about it before i can decide for sure though.

Sorry if i am bombarding you with all these questions, im slowly trying to wrap my head around as much info as possible and learn as much as i can. I feel like i could sit and read this forum allday long. haha!