19-02-2010, 19:53
Pix
Because I give you credit for partciipating I'm going to share something with you. If you need new glasses your on your own.
Certainly women use birth control because they are not ready for children. Playing Russian ROULETTE with an unknown can have devastating consequences for women that are unprepaired for children.
Now I'm going to teach you something and this is definitive. Plant estrogens compete for many of the same receptors as prescription estrogens...thus interferring with the drug.
Birth control is designed to lower luteinizing hormone so there is no ovulation....its effects can be very potent. IF uses something like Pueraria Mirifica or even large amounts of weaker estrogens the effects on Lh may not be as prominent.....thus a pregnancy.
Large amounts of Plants estrogens can lower LH but not as well the drugs. In fact in Thai folklore the women ate large amounts of PM as a natural birth control agent, but it was far from 99.9 per cent effective.
Unfortunately if you use large amounts of plant estrogens or supplements you may not get an additive effect but rather dimnishing the efficay of the drug.
If you are taking tamoxifen for instance forbreast cancer, one rason the doctor will tell you to stay away from plant estrogens is that they might diminish the drug, why the molecules compete for the same receptors.
Now Pix if you want to load your gun and pay Russian roulette well you can as well as others but the consequences are for those who have the answers thru osmosis.
If you are stating that there is no deffintive study you are correct. No one will probably ever fund it. Common sense even more than logic says don't do it.
best c
Because I give you credit for partciipating I'm going to share something with you. If you need new glasses your on your own.
Certainly women use birth control because they are not ready for children. Playing Russian ROULETTE with an unknown can have devastating consequences for women that are unprepaired for children.
Now I'm going to teach you something and this is definitive. Plant estrogens compete for many of the same receptors as prescription estrogens...thus interferring with the drug.
Birth control is designed to lower luteinizing hormone so there is no ovulation....its effects can be very potent. IF uses something like Pueraria Mirifica or even large amounts of weaker estrogens the effects on Lh may not be as prominent.....thus a pregnancy.
Large amounts of Plants estrogens can lower LH but not as well the drugs. In fact in Thai folklore the women ate large amounts of PM as a natural birth control agent, but it was far from 99.9 per cent effective.
Unfortunately if you use large amounts of plant estrogens or supplements you may not get an additive effect but rather dimnishing the efficay of the drug.
If you are taking tamoxifen for instance forbreast cancer, one rason the doctor will tell you to stay away from plant estrogens is that they might diminish the drug, why the molecules compete for the same receptors.
Now Pix if you want to load your gun and pay Russian roulette well you can as well as others but the consequences are for those who have the answers thru osmosis.
If you are stating that there is no deffintive study you are correct. No one will probably ever fund it. Common sense even more than logic says don't do it.
best c