[Morose]

I believe I speak for everyone when I say KISS is best.

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean here...

That said... Mixing phytoestrogens is NOT good. If you're going to use PM, don't use hops, RC, OR fennel. Likewise for any of the others if you choose not to use the PM...

From what I understand, PM is strictly a phytoestrogen. I was hoping I'd be able to add fenugreek or hops to help with swelling by utilizing their prolactin side. Is there another way to achieve that effect without conflicting herbs?

I don't know what effect WY cream will or will not have. I know of only two effects, only one really good one, and I am only AWARE of it working internally, not topically for that use.

When I tried NBE the first time around (before I found these forums), I felt effects from the WY. Which is why PC was suggested. I agreed that I may need something a bit stronger.

IF you need the saw palmetto, take all month a steady dose.

I'd like to avoid... I don't want any more cellulite than I do now -_- However, I'm curious if an anti-androgen is something I should look into.

IF you need the L-tyrosene, take all month a steady dose.

I read that it would be a good growth hormone for my needs as it can speed metabolism which would help with my exercise regimen as I pursue NBE. I was debating between L-Tyrosine and L-Arginine, but I can't remember why I ruled the other out..

PM CREAM is probably safe to use all month topically, but may cause problems if used too close to menstruation. If so for you, simply don't take too close to menstruation.

I'll do a bit more research on this only because it is a cream and it may or may not be wise to cycle. You can never be too safe!

PM capsules, probably best to use some kind of cycling. Personally I use liquid extract to control dosing better and mimic the estrogen levels during a normal cycle.

PC, the same as PM, ONLY if you need it, but with the progesterone levels not the estrogen levels, obviously.

My original intention was to mimic the rise and fall of my own hormones as well, however in stronger herbs considering I lack normal amounts of either.

That's another reason why SP was even on the list. Anti-androgens block DHT, correct? And I'm assuming if I have low amounts of both estrogen and progesterone, that must mean I have higher levels of testosterone. Also, I read somewhere that you can achieve better results when you pair herbs that contain diosgenin together (although I thought could only be synthesized into progesterone in a lab). But I hate the only SP side effect I know of...

Ugh!! NBE is a damn labyrinth!! >.<