[AbiDrew85]

I've got this same problem too! I have read about it and but nothing as far as results. I would love to see a before and after if you have one. I have that stupid vein underneath my eyes! with circles no darkness per se but those stupid raccoon circles!

Yeah. I haven't seen any actual evidence of results out of anyone either, just reviews and medicos saying that Butcher's Broom works best for general circulation problems while Horse Chestnut is more for "venotonic effect, vascular protection, anti-inflammatory and free radical scavenging properties" and "chronic venous insufficiency" possibly as a result of "post-thrombotic syndrome".

The lattermost certainly is something that many of us might need to concern ourselves about - estrogen supplementation is very strongly linked with deep-vein thrombosis, which is the event that can trigger the long lasting damage of a post-thrombotic syndrome.

I really don't think I have had a deep-vein thrombosis though I could be on my way if I don't do something to help my circulation NOW.

Anyways. Maybe I'll start a new thread in one of the Other sections about this problem and try to include close-ups of my eyes and hands, where IMO, the bigger-than-normal veins are their most obvious. I won't do whole-body shots for my program until I feel better about my looks, but I think I can handle doing this much.