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Here's the rundown of my potential program. I was thinking of taking bio-identical estradiol and progesterone creams and varying their levels throughout the cycle in a way that imitates the average levels during puberty. Right now I have no idea how to do this, and I don't even know if it's feasible. It might be way to finicky, and it might not even guarantee growth in an adult. Adults are different from teenagers in a million different ways. Adults might need a somewhat different balance of hormones in order to grow. The truth is I have no idea.

Isabelle has always said that it might be necessary to induce very slight estrogen dominance in order to grow, but I've never seen any solid proof that this is the case. If so, the goal would be to keep the symptoms of dominance to an absolute minimum while remaining estrogen dominant, but it's hard to say what an acceptable minimal amount of symptoms would be. What I do know (and Isabelle knew), is that estrogen dominance does not seem to cause breast growth in and of itself. If it's true that very slight estrogen dominance is necessary for adults on horomonal BE, than that complicates things even further.

I'm also considering including wild oat extract, and l-arginine, but I'm not sure. They're each going to need their own long paragraph, so try not to die of boredom

The wild oat extract is meant to lower SHBG. SHBG is whole 'nother monster, and I'm not sure how it relates to all my other hormones and what I should do about it. I'm worried that my SHBG will shoot up in response to the excess hormones and then fail to go back down after I stop taking them. I've heard that this sometimes happens after people stop taking birth control. Should I wait until I'm done with my program, and take wild oat only during the final ramp down? Is wild oat even the best choice for this or would something else work better? Is it even worth thinking about, or will a slow ramp-down over several months be enought to balance my hormones on it's own? I've also been concerned that my testosterone will dip too low as my SHBG rises. I'm not really sure how to prevent this, or even if it's necessary to prevent it. I wouldn't take Maca to raise testosterone, because I don't think it's been well established that it does. Instead, I could try lowering my SHBG in order to raise my testosterone, but it might be dangerous to do that while raising my other sex hormones at the same time. My questions about SHBG boil down to whether I should attempt to lower it at all, and if so, should I attempt to lower it throughout my program, or should I wait until the final ramp down?

The L-arginine is meant to raise my prolactin. I know that a lot of people have taken l-arginine to raise their levels of growth hormone, but there just isn't enough evidence to know for sure that it does. Even if it does, it probably only does so if taken immediately before a serious resistance work out. I honestly hope that it does raise HGH, because that might be a huge help. More importantly, is it really even a good idea to raise my prolactin? Prolactin tends to suppress the production of E and P, and my natural E and P levels will already be suppressed by the influx of extra hormones. The only reason I'm even considering L-arginine is because IdreamofD and MydreamisGcup grew so well when they took it along with their programs that were very high in both estrogen and progesterone. I tried contacting them to find out if they kept their massive growth, but neither of them got back to me. I wish I had more solid evidence that raising all 3 hormones is a good idea.

Smart people, please help!! This is all way too complicated for me, but I'm going to continue to research this as much as I can before giving up on the idea.