[Isabelle]

Thank you karen,

You're so sweet, and so am I

There's also my 25 years as a lab rat. The point where I think I understand, where the preaching and the arrogance start, that's where I often have to remind myself to listen to people who are offering different views, and to focus on the experience reports that defy conventional wisdom. It's the only way to learn past the level of experts who only read one or two authors on a subject

I've been thinking about how to diagnose a stall. There's still Wahaika's stall test. And lowering the anti-androgen may be the fastest way. Oily skin and libido should return within hours or days.