15-01-2010, 16:16
Excellent info Jim Hazel, that answers a lot in my mind and makes perfect sense on how the infertility thing got started.
What I have found on it effecting women's fertility seems to be the exact same statement word for word on each site that discusses it which is odd. They do say it can cuase infertility in women due to the high levels of prolactin it creates in the body. To be clear, they then discuss it works the same way as the high amounts of prolactin produced in a woman when she is pregnant. So I think the word infetility is being taken too literal, it sounds to me as if it's meant more like a birth control pill would work. As long as your prolactin levels are high, you can't get pregnant, just like in the men when the estrogen is high and testosterone is down, you can't get a woman pregnant.
This also is backed up by what happens in women that are nursing. While there is always those rare few that nursing doesn't work as a birth control method, for the majority of women it does for the same reason, prolactin which is extremely high to allow the production of milk.
Also here are some links to some sites that use bovine ovary for pills to help women with infertility problems, menopause and pms, which as I said is what led me to this product in the first place, but they have alot of info on the bovine ovary that you don't see on the breast pill sites since it is being used for something else in these pills but interesting reads all the same.
The first product is Le Feminine Advantage you can visit the site here http://www.doctorsresearch.com/prod_le.html
Or simply read their statement on bovine ovary usage in their product below--
"Bovine ovary supplies ovarian tissue. Ovarian tissue has long been advised to improve the integrity of ovarian cells and to assist with a whole range of menstrual and menopausal concerns [4,8-11]. Specifically it has been advised to restore menstruation in those who should have menstrual cycles, to assist those with PMS related symptoms (including nervousness), reduce inflammation of the lining of the uterus (endocervicitis), improve sexual response, reduce ovarian cysts, help with hot flashes, help with menstrual cramps, normalize menstrual flow, aid with calcium disorders, and to reverse infertility [8-11]. The ovarian tissue in Le Feminine Advantage is from New Zealand."
The next product is Ovex you can visit their brochure here http://www.standardprocess.com/display/displayFile.aspx?docid=772&filename=/Public/Lit/TabSheets/ovex6600.pdf
you can find more supplements like these searching for hormone balancing supplements.
For a woman, it makes sense then that once you are no longer taking the pills the prolactin levels will drop and fertility will restart.
while all of this makes perfect sense to me and I would feel confident enough to take it even if I were planning to have more children, I would never tell someone that has not had kids to take it, Mainly because there is no solid answer to prove it to be so, but also many many women have difficulties getting pregnant without ever having taken anything to effect it. Until someone tries to get pregnant they don't know if they are one of these women, but I would hate for them to "assume" it was their fault for taking the pills or for that matter try to blame it on one of the companies, when they very well could have had fertility problems all on their own and there would be no way to prove which it was from.
As for me? my hormones are more balanced than they have been in 5 years or so and it is 100% because of the BB pills. love them.
What I have found on it effecting women's fertility seems to be the exact same statement word for word on each site that discusses it which is odd. They do say it can cuase infertility in women due to the high levels of prolactin it creates in the body. To be clear, they then discuss it works the same way as the high amounts of prolactin produced in a woman when she is pregnant. So I think the word infetility is being taken too literal, it sounds to me as if it's meant more like a birth control pill would work. As long as your prolactin levels are high, you can't get pregnant, just like in the men when the estrogen is high and testosterone is down, you can't get a woman pregnant.
This also is backed up by what happens in women that are nursing. While there is always those rare few that nursing doesn't work as a birth control method, for the majority of women it does for the same reason, prolactin which is extremely high to allow the production of milk.
Also here are some links to some sites that use bovine ovary for pills to help women with infertility problems, menopause and pms, which as I said is what led me to this product in the first place, but they have alot of info on the bovine ovary that you don't see on the breast pill sites since it is being used for something else in these pills but interesting reads all the same.
The first product is Le Feminine Advantage you can visit the site here http://www.doctorsresearch.com/prod_le.html
Or simply read their statement on bovine ovary usage in their product below--
"Bovine ovary supplies ovarian tissue. Ovarian tissue has long been advised to improve the integrity of ovarian cells and to assist with a whole range of menstrual and menopausal concerns [4,8-11]. Specifically it has been advised to restore menstruation in those who should have menstrual cycles, to assist those with PMS related symptoms (including nervousness), reduce inflammation of the lining of the uterus (endocervicitis), improve sexual response, reduce ovarian cysts, help with hot flashes, help with menstrual cramps, normalize menstrual flow, aid with calcium disorders, and to reverse infertility [8-11]. The ovarian tissue in Le Feminine Advantage is from New Zealand."
The next product is Ovex you can visit their brochure here http://www.standardprocess.com/display/displayFile.aspx?docid=772&filename=/Public/Lit/TabSheets/ovex6600.pdf
you can find more supplements like these searching for hormone balancing supplements.
For a woman, it makes sense then that once you are no longer taking the pills the prolactin levels will drop and fertility will restart.
while all of this makes perfect sense to me and I would feel confident enough to take it even if I were planning to have more children, I would never tell someone that has not had kids to take it, Mainly because there is no solid answer to prove it to be so, but also many many women have difficulties getting pregnant without ever having taken anything to effect it. Until someone tries to get pregnant they don't know if they are one of these women, but I would hate for them to "assume" it was their fault for taking the pills or for that matter try to blame it on one of the companies, when they very well could have had fertility problems all on their own and there would be no way to prove which it was from.
As for me? my hormones are more balanced than they have been in 5 years or so and it is 100% because of the BB pills. love them.