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Side effects on BO?
March 28 2007 at 3:24 PM
Myjourney (Login Myjourney)
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Has anyone experienced side effects...headaches, tiredness, etc, I am wondering if I am taking too much..or if it is just my period coming on...
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Olivia
(Login O1ivia) Re: Side effects on BO? March 28 2007, 3:34 PM
I havnt had any side effects yet, but ive only been on bo for almost a month. how many mg's do you take?
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Buffeee
(Login Buffeeee) Re: Side effects on BO? March 28 2007, 3:48 PM
How much are you taking? I haven't had any side effects.
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Melissa
(Login mama2fiveboys) Re: Side effects on BO? March 28 2007, 4:01 PM
I have been on BB pills for going o a year and I have never had any negative side effects from the pills. Also to let you know, I recently had blood work and a mamogram (my first) for my routine yearly check up and EVERYTHING came back normal, I know that so many of us worry about the side effects from taking medications we don't know much about, so hope this helps some.
Melissa
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Myjourney
(Login Myjourney) hmm March 28 2007, 4:12 PM
Well, I started with 2 in morn and 3 at night, (generic) and have ramped up a bit...as the tingles diminished. I took 4 in morn and 5 at night for two days, then last night i took less just in case it was that. There is a sickness goin round, and my period is due...course I am doing pm soap and cream too, but didn't use much of that the last two days...to busy.
What are the highest doses anyone has taken here? Do you think the high doses cause stalling?
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Olivia
(Login O1ivia) Re: Side effects on BO? March 28 2007, 5:04 PM
yea, that is a lot to be taking. I dont think anyone here is taking that high of a dose. Im only taking 3 in the morning and 2 at night. thats what most people say is a safe amount. i think your taking too much... Others will pobably know more than me... but i do think you a taking way too much
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sandy
(Login sandy111)
SENIOR MEMBER Bo doses March 28 2007, 5:22 PM
Hi.I read on the boutanical beauty website that bovine ovary concentrate should be taken from 1800 to 2400 mg.so i think 2500mg will be ok but not more.so 5 pills in the whole day.Good luck
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Buffeee
(Login Buffeeee) Re: Side effects on BO? March 28 2007, 9:01 PM
I think you're taking more than anyone has dared to take before
I think you might benefit by lowering the dosage.
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Sissy
(no login) Re: Side effects on BO? March 28 2007, 11:26 PM
That does sound like too much. Emmie got up to 2500 I think towards the end of her BO program, but that was after months of building up to it. I don't know how much exactly I take, it's probably around 900-1000mgs, but with the potenization they do to BB, it could be like taking 3000mgs for all we know.
I have not had any side effects that I attribute to BO or the herbs I take for that matter. **knocks on wood** -- Sissy
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Myjourney
(Login Myjourney) OK ok March 29 2007, 1:02 AM
I'll ramp down! :-)
I did today, and am getting tingles still.
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Myjourney
(Login Myjourney) Buffee March 29 2007, 1:41 AM
I noticed on your program pg. you are having some frustration. Maybe you should try ramping down too?
My tingles had actually diminished on the higher dose??!! and now today, I ramped down, and am getting major tingles! weird. Also, maybe try and add that Gaba at night that we talked about. It won't have any side effects except to drive away any insomnia...
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Buffeee
(Login Buffeee)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Side effects on BO? March 29 2007, 12:14 PM
Yes, you might be right. I'm going to give it 2 more days and then ramp down if I don't get anything. Shoot- if GABA drives away insomnia, I'm all for it. I'm not bad, but I do wake up several times a night & if my boyfriend is there hogging the bed then I find that I have a hard time getting back to sleep. If I were a little stronger, I'd flip his ass off the bed.
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Myjourney
(Login Myjourney) Gaba March 29 2007, 8:09 PM
Is really great for insomnia. I find it helps me best in larger doses...like 4 pills. What it does is stop that "monkey mind" where your mind goes over and over the day...etc. It works pretty good.
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Buffeee
(Login Buffeeee) Re: Side effects on BO? March 29 2007, 9:08 PM
Just read up about GABA and ordered it. You must be right on the dosage- bodybuilding websites said effective dosage starts at 5 grams, which is 10x what some of the bottles recommend.
Thanks, girl
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Fennel Fairy
(Login fennelfairy)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Side effects on BO? April 1 2007, 9:13 AM
Why don't people ever go by the recommended dosage? Is the product ineffective if taken according to recommendaton? I wouldn't want to overdose anything generally. Have any of you experienced that the recommended dose does NOTHING for you and that you need to ramp up to see results, or is it just impatience that makes people O.D? Just wondering.
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emmie
(Login emmiedee) headaches April 1 2007, 9:17 AM
i did get headaches for awhile, especially when starting out. i found that the pills seemed to make me feel dehydrated, so i used the old army adage of "drink water." for once, it worked!
make sure you are drinking plenty of water no matter what your routine...
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lassysam
(Login lassysam)
SENIOR MEMBER Myjourney April 1 2007, 4:27 PM
I have had headaches and tiredness with any BE routine I've tried, but they came mostly with the higher doses. And here is an interesting thought, it seems there are many women that complain of yeast infections doing BE. I think the extra estrogen maybe can do that, or somehow makes a more friendly environment for yeast. And yeast or our bacteria in our body being out of balance can also cause tiredness. I have been feeling better now that I am eating Activia yogurt everyday and I've also been taking the B Complex vitamins. I hope you start feeling better Myjourney.
I had to take a break for a while I was feeling so bad. I felt lethargic and was also having stomach problems. I still don't know what caused it. It could of been anything. I am getting back on the BO, now though. I feel my old self again.
These hormones affect every system in our body so if side effects pop up we need to find solutions to help us.
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Sissy
(Login sissy2345)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Side effects on BO? April 1 2007, 5:11 PM
I also got headaches in the first few days, I even posted the question to see if that was normal. They went away and never came back. I seemed to get them right after I took my pills. -- Sissy
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Anonymous
(Login fawnmarie) Re: Side effects on BO? April 1 2007, 6:08 PM
Excess estrogen can cause fatigue and headaches, so it may be related to your use of BO.
I used as much as 2800 when I was on BO, but not everyday and everyone is different. If you're getting headaches, don't be afraid to ramp down some.
Fawn
Botanical Beauty Lab
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Kayleigh
(no login) Re: Side effects on BO? April 2 2007, 7:37 AM
I took bovine ovary and it gave me a lot of headaches, although it did at least have some desirable effect on me, if not the amount of breast growth I was hoping for. When I stopped the headaches went away immediately, so perhaps I was taking too much for me. I'll try herbs now anyway because several people told me that herbs are gentler, which for me is probably good.
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Myjourney
(Login Myjourney) Fennel April 2 2007, 4:00 PM
The recommended dosages on bottles are put there by the FDA...who we all know, knows nothing about much. The dosages put on there are the very minimum that a person could take, unless the bottle specifically says 'do not exceed dosage."
( I should note this is for USA) FDA standards...even the "recommended allowances" are the very minimums that a person would need to stay alive. I wish I could remember the source, but I was reading statistics on this stuff once, and the guidelines were originally made for men in war (world war II). They did a study to see the bare minimum they could feed a guy on the battle front, and that is where the " requirements" come from. The study actually made me quite angry, and also angry that most people are still not taking enough of essential nutrients that they need. (If this has changed...someone let me know!!!) Here..I found a link that touches upon it lightly...
http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/hurtful-food-putting-the-recommended-daily-allowances-into-perspective.html
Here is a quote from the Chicago Tribune:
"Some researchers believe the current recommended daily allowances of vitamin D are probably too low to maintain optimum health. The recommendations are 200 international units for infants, children and adults up to 50 years old; 400 IU for men and women from 50 to 70; and 600 IU for people older than 70.
Vitamin D supplements are generally considered safe except for megadoses, Ascherio said. But a large trial to determine if a several-fold increase in the intake of vitamin D supplements can reduce the risk of MS is needed before recommendations can be made for people to take higher doses of the vitamin, he said."
So, depending on the substance, one would usually take more, according to body weight, and effect. Certain substances are water soluble (like vit c and vit b) and you can take them ad naseum because the excess gets peed out. More caution needs to be taken with stuff like Vit A that builds up in the body.
Now, my Bovine Ovary bottle says something like 1 two to three times daily. If i took that it wouldn't do much for me at my weight (175lb) I have ramped back down to 3 in morn 4 at night and that is working well, and no more headaches. Most of the ladies taking herbs I would say are definately "exceeding" the RDD that is on the bottle.
Hope that answers your question!
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Alyssa
(no login) side effects of bo April 6 2007, 3:36 PM
I started taking bo a week ago and since then I have been having stomach cramps, I wasn't sure if it was the bo but it seems to start after I take my morning bo pill. I think I might try to take the pills with food, but I can't go on if the cramps don't stop. Has anyone else had this issue? I have always had a sensitive stomach but nothing has given me stomach cramps like this. I'm already noticing I'm regaining some fullness that I lost after I quit using herbs, so I would like to continue the bo but only if my stomach can get back to normal. Any advise would be appreciated.
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katherine
(Login BObabe) Side effects on BO? April 6 2007, 9:25 PM
Alyssa,
Personally, I have not experienced this, However I have read on other threads here that there are a few girls who had a hard time taking BO on an empty stomach as it made their tummies hurt too, so you're not alone in this. I know they started taking their's with food for this reason and have repoted no decrease in it's affect. You'd have to search this forum to find it word for word. Hope one of them can reassure you personally!
If it's generic, I believe Botanical Beauty Lab recommends taking it WITH food........So, if you're in pain, and it sounds like you are, Get yourself a snack, Girlfriend! Try to take it for a while with a snack or light meal and see how you feel. Sore Boobies is the goal, not sore bellies! Happy to hear you're getting some fullness back. YAY!!! And may it continue!!!
katherine
Anh
(Login goodolanh)
SENIOR MEMBER Headaches and dizziness April 10 2007, 6:01 AM
In the first month, I did get a lot of headaches and dizziness, but not as much anymore. It usually happens when I don't take my pills on time or forget to take it that day. I have skipped several times when I was too busy with school or stayed up too late studying... b/c the pills aren't effective when you're stressed!
Anh
March 28 2007 at 3:24 PM
Myjourney (Login Myjourney)
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Has anyone experienced side effects...headaches, tiredness, etc, I am wondering if I am taking too much..or if it is just my period coming on...
Author Reply
Olivia
(Login O1ivia) Re: Side effects on BO? March 28 2007, 3:34 PM
I havnt had any side effects yet, but ive only been on bo for almost a month. how many mg's do you take?
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Buffeee
(Login Buffeeee) Re: Side effects on BO? March 28 2007, 3:48 PM
How much are you taking? I haven't had any side effects.
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Melissa
(Login mama2fiveboys) Re: Side effects on BO? March 28 2007, 4:01 PM
I have been on BB pills for going o a year and I have never had any negative side effects from the pills. Also to let you know, I recently had blood work and a mamogram (my first) for my routine yearly check up and EVERYTHING came back normal, I know that so many of us worry about the side effects from taking medications we don't know much about, so hope this helps some.
Melissa
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Myjourney
(Login Myjourney) hmm March 28 2007, 4:12 PM
Well, I started with 2 in morn and 3 at night, (generic) and have ramped up a bit...as the tingles diminished. I took 4 in morn and 5 at night for two days, then last night i took less just in case it was that. There is a sickness goin round, and my period is due...course I am doing pm soap and cream too, but didn't use much of that the last two days...to busy.
What are the highest doses anyone has taken here? Do you think the high doses cause stalling?
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Olivia
(Login O1ivia) Re: Side effects on BO? March 28 2007, 5:04 PM
yea, that is a lot to be taking. I dont think anyone here is taking that high of a dose. Im only taking 3 in the morning and 2 at night. thats what most people say is a safe amount. i think your taking too much... Others will pobably know more than me... but i do think you a taking way too much
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sandy
(Login sandy111)
SENIOR MEMBER Bo doses March 28 2007, 5:22 PM
Hi.I read on the boutanical beauty website that bovine ovary concentrate should be taken from 1800 to 2400 mg.so i think 2500mg will be ok but not more.so 5 pills in the whole day.Good luck
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Buffeee
(Login Buffeeee) Re: Side effects on BO? March 28 2007, 9:01 PM
I think you're taking more than anyone has dared to take before
I think you might benefit by lowering the dosage.Edit Message Delete Message
Sissy
(no login) Re: Side effects on BO? March 28 2007, 11:26 PM
That does sound like too much. Emmie got up to 2500 I think towards the end of her BO program, but that was after months of building up to it. I don't know how much exactly I take, it's probably around 900-1000mgs, but with the potenization they do to BB, it could be like taking 3000mgs for all we know.
I have not had any side effects that I attribute to BO or the herbs I take for that matter. **knocks on wood** -- Sissy
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Myjourney
(Login Myjourney) OK ok March 29 2007, 1:02 AM
I'll ramp down! :-)
I did today, and am getting tingles still.
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Myjourney
(Login Myjourney) Buffee March 29 2007, 1:41 AM
I noticed on your program pg. you are having some frustration. Maybe you should try ramping down too?
My tingles had actually diminished on the higher dose??!! and now today, I ramped down, and am getting major tingles! weird. Also, maybe try and add that Gaba at night that we talked about. It won't have any side effects except to drive away any insomnia...
Edit Message Delete Message
Buffeee
(Login Buffeee)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Side effects on BO? March 29 2007, 12:14 PM
Yes, you might be right. I'm going to give it 2 more days and then ramp down if I don't get anything. Shoot- if GABA drives away insomnia, I'm all for it. I'm not bad, but I do wake up several times a night & if my boyfriend is there hogging the bed then I find that I have a hard time getting back to sleep. If I were a little stronger, I'd flip his ass off the bed.
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Myjourney
(Login Myjourney) Gaba March 29 2007, 8:09 PM
Is really great for insomnia. I find it helps me best in larger doses...like 4 pills. What it does is stop that "monkey mind" where your mind goes over and over the day...etc. It works pretty good.
Edit Message Delete Message
Buffeee
(Login Buffeeee) Re: Side effects on BO? March 29 2007, 9:08 PM
Just read up about GABA and ordered it. You must be right on the dosage- bodybuilding websites said effective dosage starts at 5 grams, which is 10x what some of the bottles recommend.
Thanks, girl
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Fennel Fairy
(Login fennelfairy)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Side effects on BO? April 1 2007, 9:13 AM
Why don't people ever go by the recommended dosage? Is the product ineffective if taken according to recommendaton? I wouldn't want to overdose anything generally. Have any of you experienced that the recommended dose does NOTHING for you and that you need to ramp up to see results, or is it just impatience that makes people O.D? Just wondering.
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emmie
(Login emmiedee) headaches April 1 2007, 9:17 AM
i did get headaches for awhile, especially when starting out. i found that the pills seemed to make me feel dehydrated, so i used the old army adage of "drink water." for once, it worked!
make sure you are drinking plenty of water no matter what your routine...
Edit Message Delete Message
lassysam
(Login lassysam)
SENIOR MEMBER Myjourney April 1 2007, 4:27 PM
I have had headaches and tiredness with any BE routine I've tried, but they came mostly with the higher doses. And here is an interesting thought, it seems there are many women that complain of yeast infections doing BE. I think the extra estrogen maybe can do that, or somehow makes a more friendly environment for yeast. And yeast or our bacteria in our body being out of balance can also cause tiredness. I have been feeling better now that I am eating Activia yogurt everyday and I've also been taking the B Complex vitamins. I hope you start feeling better Myjourney.
I had to take a break for a while I was feeling so bad. I felt lethargic and was also having stomach problems. I still don't know what caused it. It could of been anything. I am getting back on the BO, now though. I feel my old self again.
These hormones affect every system in our body so if side effects pop up we need to find solutions to help us.
Edit Message Delete Message
Sissy
(Login sissy2345)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Side effects on BO? April 1 2007, 5:11 PM
I also got headaches in the first few days, I even posted the question to see if that was normal. They went away and never came back. I seemed to get them right after I took my pills. -- Sissy
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Anonymous
(Login fawnmarie) Re: Side effects on BO? April 1 2007, 6:08 PM
Excess estrogen can cause fatigue and headaches, so it may be related to your use of BO.
I used as much as 2800 when I was on BO, but not everyday and everyone is different. If you're getting headaches, don't be afraid to ramp down some.
Fawn
Botanical Beauty Lab
Edit Message Delete Message
Kayleigh
(no login) Re: Side effects on BO? April 2 2007, 7:37 AM
I took bovine ovary and it gave me a lot of headaches, although it did at least have some desirable effect on me, if not the amount of breast growth I was hoping for. When I stopped the headaches went away immediately, so perhaps I was taking too much for me. I'll try herbs now anyway because several people told me that herbs are gentler, which for me is probably good.
Edit Message Delete Message
Myjourney
(Login Myjourney) Fennel April 2 2007, 4:00 PM
The recommended dosages on bottles are put there by the FDA...who we all know, knows nothing about much. The dosages put on there are the very minimum that a person could take, unless the bottle specifically says 'do not exceed dosage."
( I should note this is for USA) FDA standards...even the "recommended allowances" are the very minimums that a person would need to stay alive. I wish I could remember the source, but I was reading statistics on this stuff once, and the guidelines were originally made for men in war (world war II). They did a study to see the bare minimum they could feed a guy on the battle front, and that is where the " requirements" come from. The study actually made me quite angry, and also angry that most people are still not taking enough of essential nutrients that they need. (If this has changed...someone let me know!!!) Here..I found a link that touches upon it lightly...
http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/hurtful-food-putting-the-recommended-daily-allowances-into-perspective.html
Here is a quote from the Chicago Tribune:
"Some researchers believe the current recommended daily allowances of vitamin D are probably too low to maintain optimum health. The recommendations are 200 international units for infants, children and adults up to 50 years old; 400 IU for men and women from 50 to 70; and 600 IU for people older than 70.
Vitamin D supplements are generally considered safe except for megadoses, Ascherio said. But a large trial to determine if a several-fold increase in the intake of vitamin D supplements can reduce the risk of MS is needed before recommendations can be made for people to take higher doses of the vitamin, he said."
So, depending on the substance, one would usually take more, according to body weight, and effect. Certain substances are water soluble (like vit c and vit b) and you can take them ad naseum because the excess gets peed out. More caution needs to be taken with stuff like Vit A that builds up in the body.
Now, my Bovine Ovary bottle says something like 1 two to three times daily. If i took that it wouldn't do much for me at my weight (175lb) I have ramped back down to 3 in morn 4 at night and that is working well, and no more headaches. Most of the ladies taking herbs I would say are definately "exceeding" the RDD that is on the bottle.
Hope that answers your question!
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Alyssa
(no login) side effects of bo April 6 2007, 3:36 PM
I started taking bo a week ago and since then I have been having stomach cramps, I wasn't sure if it was the bo but it seems to start after I take my morning bo pill. I think I might try to take the pills with food, but I can't go on if the cramps don't stop. Has anyone else had this issue? I have always had a sensitive stomach but nothing has given me stomach cramps like this. I'm already noticing I'm regaining some fullness that I lost after I quit using herbs, so I would like to continue the bo but only if my stomach can get back to normal. Any advise would be appreciated.
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katherine
(Login BObabe) Side effects on BO? April 6 2007, 9:25 PM
Alyssa,
Personally, I have not experienced this, However I have read on other threads here that there are a few girls who had a hard time taking BO on an empty stomach as it made their tummies hurt too, so you're not alone in this. I know they started taking their's with food for this reason and have repoted no decrease in it's affect. You'd have to search this forum to find it word for word. Hope one of them can reassure you personally!
If it's generic, I believe Botanical Beauty Lab recommends taking it WITH food........So, if you're in pain, and it sounds like you are, Get yourself a snack, Girlfriend! Try to take it for a while with a snack or light meal and see how you feel. Sore Boobies is the goal, not sore bellies! Happy to hear you're getting some fullness back. YAY!!! And may it continue!!!
katherine
Anh
(Login goodolanh)
SENIOR MEMBER Headaches and dizziness April 10 2007, 6:01 AM
In the first month, I did get a lot of headaches and dizziness, but not as much anymore. It usually happens when I don't take my pills on time or forget to take it that day. I have skipped several times when I was too busy with school or stayed up too late studying... b/c the pills aren't effective when you're stressed!
Anh