22-11-2011, 23:36
Isabelle,
That's a very good question! I sure wish I knew the answer. On Sunday the headache was really pretty bad and I had foggy thinking, despite the fact that I had taken less Dandelion on Saturday. I took only one early Sunday and then decided to stop taking it altogether due to the headache. By yesterday (Monday) morning the headache was gone and I was fine. Since I was feeling normal again I took only (no other supplements at all) one 1000mg Milk Thistle yesterday evening to at least continue with my liver cleanse. Felt fine, no headaches.
Today, just as an experiment, I took one Dandelion capsule. I should note that the days I had the bad headaches last week/weekend, all activity in my breasts also stopped. I was no longer feeling the tingles, aches, pains, etc. Today after taking the Dandelion, the sensations returned. I don't have a headache but my head feels a little heavy, if that makes sense.
When I began taking Dandelion, the instructions on the bottle stated to take up to four capsules twice a day for a total of eight. Fortunately I didn't go by that and instead ramped up, figuring out that my optimum dose was 3 capsules a day (a total of 1560mg). Past that I would get slight headaches, but I was also taking Milk Thistle regularly at that time. So I kept it at 3 and stopped taking Milk Thistle for the most part, and then started getting the sore, sensitive nipples. Then came the breast soreness. Next the headaches started and the soreness and sensations went away. So the best I can figure is that I was simply taking too much. And even though I was decreasing the amount of it that I was taking toward the end, it was still adding to what was already in my system, causing it to build and build. It took me completely stopping it to finally get relief. After that, it quickly went away. Still, it seems odd that just one herb at a normal dose would cause those symptoms for me so quickly. And why, if it's really affecting me that severely, does it take such a short time for me to feel normal again? If it was really that bad, I would think it should take a while to get rid of the symptoms. I seem to be hypersensitive to this, which is really quite frustrating. This didn't happen four years ago when I tried NBE so I can't figure out why it's happening now. Apparently my inner workings have shifted a little since then. Thank you for your concern.
If I may ask your opinion on something, would you recommend I try the program Wahaika came up with on his board http://nbelab.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=nbetheory&action=display&thread=285 or try PM first, given my apparent sensitivity? Really the only reason I want to try PM first is just because I've paid for it and have it already... But I also have nearly everything I need for the other program, except for Goat's Rue which I can easily order now.
Susan,
Your explanation makes sense as well. This could very well be due to the toxins being released and circulating through me, and/or the new cleared estrogen receptors causing imbalance, especially since Dandelion is a phytoestrogen. One thing that made me think of was that toward the beginning of last week I was drinking loads of water. I was really focusing on Noogling and wanted to make sure I was getting enough to have great swelling. Toward the end of the week though, when I didn't have as much time for pumping, I stopped drinking as much water as well. I'm increasing that again starting today. My digestive system seems to be working ok in the sense that I'm very "regular". There could be other things going on with that though. I do think a colon cleanse would be a big help in general, as would a light fasting. Maybe that will be my next step. My period is due in five days (if it's on time) and then I wouldn't be starting PM until 8 days after that. So I've got some time. I'm willing to do just about anything that might help at this point! Thank you for your input. I'm glad things seem to be going well for you with your new program!
That's a very good question! I sure wish I knew the answer. On Sunday the headache was really pretty bad and I had foggy thinking, despite the fact that I had taken less Dandelion on Saturday. I took only one early Sunday and then decided to stop taking it altogether due to the headache. By yesterday (Monday) morning the headache was gone and I was fine. Since I was feeling normal again I took only (no other supplements at all) one 1000mg Milk Thistle yesterday evening to at least continue with my liver cleanse. Felt fine, no headaches.
Today, just as an experiment, I took one Dandelion capsule. I should note that the days I had the bad headaches last week/weekend, all activity in my breasts also stopped. I was no longer feeling the tingles, aches, pains, etc. Today after taking the Dandelion, the sensations returned. I don't have a headache but my head feels a little heavy, if that makes sense.
When I began taking Dandelion, the instructions on the bottle stated to take up to four capsules twice a day for a total of eight. Fortunately I didn't go by that and instead ramped up, figuring out that my optimum dose was 3 capsules a day (a total of 1560mg). Past that I would get slight headaches, but I was also taking Milk Thistle regularly at that time. So I kept it at 3 and stopped taking Milk Thistle for the most part, and then started getting the sore, sensitive nipples. Then came the breast soreness. Next the headaches started and the soreness and sensations went away. So the best I can figure is that I was simply taking too much. And even though I was decreasing the amount of it that I was taking toward the end, it was still adding to what was already in my system, causing it to build and build. It took me completely stopping it to finally get relief. After that, it quickly went away. Still, it seems odd that just one herb at a normal dose would cause those symptoms for me so quickly. And why, if it's really affecting me that severely, does it take such a short time for me to feel normal again? If it was really that bad, I would think it should take a while to get rid of the symptoms. I seem to be hypersensitive to this, which is really quite frustrating. This didn't happen four years ago when I tried NBE so I can't figure out why it's happening now. Apparently my inner workings have shifted a little since then. Thank you for your concern.
If I may ask your opinion on something, would you recommend I try the program Wahaika came up with on his board http://nbelab.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=nbetheory&action=display&thread=285 or try PM first, given my apparent sensitivity? Really the only reason I want to try PM first is just because I've paid for it and have it already... But I also have nearly everything I need for the other program, except for Goat's Rue which I can easily order now.
Susan,
Your explanation makes sense as well. This could very well be due to the toxins being released and circulating through me, and/or the new cleared estrogen receptors causing imbalance, especially since Dandelion is a phytoestrogen. One thing that made me think of was that toward the beginning of last week I was drinking loads of water. I was really focusing on Noogling and wanted to make sure I was getting enough to have great swelling. Toward the end of the week though, when I didn't have as much time for pumping, I stopped drinking as much water as well. I'm increasing that again starting today. My digestive system seems to be working ok in the sense that I'm very "regular". There could be other things going on with that though. I do think a colon cleanse would be a big help in general, as would a light fasting. Maybe that will be my next step. My period is due in five days (if it's on time) and then I wouldn't be starting PM until 8 days after that. So I've got some time. I'm willing to do just about anything that might help at this point! Thank you for your input. I'm glad things seem to be going well for you with your new program!