09-11-2011, 22:12
Thank you shortcake,
You really overestimate what I know. With all the work that went into cycling PM for months, Susan is the only one to get two natural cycles of the same length. And even then, they were both 36 days, and she felt horrible during the last week.
I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can:
The highest estrogen peak is days 9-11. Estrogens rise gently from day 6, and drop to zero steeply on day 12. Even if you start on day 8, you can still stop on day 12. Pansy Mae experimented with different lengths of estrogen peaks, and found it was difficult to maintain the highest dose for longer than 2 or 3 days without headaches anyway. It's the slow rise and the steep drop that convey the estrogen signal, not how many days you can stay at the peak dose.
You can feel when you ovulate. So far, I haven't read about any objection against starting PM the minute after. The whole problem exists only because PM suppresses ovulation.
You should decrease to your minimum dose on day 25. I'm still not sure if that means zero. In the natural estrogens cycle, it's not. And stopping PM triggers an ovulation. I don't know if a second one in the same cycle is even possible, but if you feel it, you can try it out.
Start licorice on day 6. On day 11, your natural progesterone rise will take over. Start again after ovulation, and stop when your period starts. Susan felt like she was pregnant and had PMS at the same time when she was waiting for her period. I'm not sure if licorice would be the herb of choice to prevent that, but it will prevent acne because of the anti-androgen in it. The traditional herb for luteal phase is vitex agnus castus (chaste tree berry), but I don't really know how this should be used.
In the luteal phase, you take less PM than during the peak in the follicular phase. In the natural cycle, progesterone is higher than estrogens in luteal phase. Add fennel tea or fenugreek. There is a schedule in Susan's program thread:
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=8440&pid=32874#pid32874
You really overestimate what I know. With all the work that went into cycling PM for months, Susan is the only one to get two natural cycles of the same length. And even then, they were both 36 days, and she felt horrible during the last week.
I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can:
The highest estrogen peak is days 9-11. Estrogens rise gently from day 6, and drop to zero steeply on day 12. Even if you start on day 8, you can still stop on day 12. Pansy Mae experimented with different lengths of estrogen peaks, and found it was difficult to maintain the highest dose for longer than 2 or 3 days without headaches anyway. It's the slow rise and the steep drop that convey the estrogen signal, not how many days you can stay at the peak dose.
You can feel when you ovulate. So far, I haven't read about any objection against starting PM the minute after. The whole problem exists only because PM suppresses ovulation.
You should decrease to your minimum dose on day 25. I'm still not sure if that means zero. In the natural estrogens cycle, it's not. And stopping PM triggers an ovulation. I don't know if a second one in the same cycle is even possible, but if you feel it, you can try it out.
Start licorice on day 6. On day 11, your natural progesterone rise will take over. Start again after ovulation, and stop when your period starts. Susan felt like she was pregnant and had PMS at the same time when she was waiting for her period. I'm not sure if licorice would be the herb of choice to prevent that, but it will prevent acne because of the anti-androgen in it. The traditional herb for luteal phase is vitex agnus castus (chaste tree berry), but I don't really know how this should be used.
In the luteal phase, you take less PM than during the peak in the follicular phase. In the natural cycle, progesterone is higher than estrogens in luteal phase. Add fennel tea or fenugreek. There is a schedule in Susan's program thread:
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=8440&pid=32874#pid32874