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Herbs & BO?
May 9 2007 at 12:24 AM Sun (Login ThaliaSun)
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Can someone explain the reasoning behind *not* combining bovine ovary and herbs like fenugreek?
I've searched the archives and can only find references to letting BO work on it's own, but I'm curious about the actual whys.
Thanks!
~Sun
Author Reply
Fawn
(Login fawnmarie) Re: Fenugreek & BO? May 9 2007, 12:38 AM
The first reason is that you don't want to overload your system with some many "estrogens" that your liver starts filtering them out and your estrogen receptors don't go dormant.
The second reason is that BO is said to stimulate NATURAL production of estrogen in the ovaries. If your system is overloaded with phytoestrogens, which are much weaker, the herbal may tie up your receptors so that your natural estrogens will not reach the cells.
Sun
(Login ThaliaSun) Re: Fenugreek & BO? May 9 2007, 6:31 PM
Excellent-- thank you. Exactly what I was looking for.
I've been considering some information on the importance of galactagogues in NBE, and if I'm just taking BO which is acting to increase estrogen, am I not missing the boat on the galactagogues?
~Sun
Ann5
(Login Ann5)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Fenugreek & BO? May 9 2007, 8:04 PM
That's good to know. I'd like to know the answer to that question as well. Like goat's rue is a galactagogue (sp?), but is it a phytoestrogen? Would it be really bad to combine goat's rue with BO?
Fluffy Sheep
(Login fawnmarie) Re: Fenugreek & BO? May 12 2007, 1:46 AM
There are other ways to stimulate prolactin production besides galactagogues - like a nice cold beer and massage, reducing nicotine and caffeine, etc.
I don't believe goat's rue is a phytoestrogen, but it can cause uterine contractions, which are uncomfortable.
May 9 2007 at 12:24 AM Sun (Login ThaliaSun)
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Can someone explain the reasoning behind *not* combining bovine ovary and herbs like fenugreek?
I've searched the archives and can only find references to letting BO work on it's own, but I'm curious about the actual whys.
Thanks!
~Sun
Author Reply
Fawn
(Login fawnmarie) Re: Fenugreek & BO? May 9 2007, 12:38 AM
The first reason is that you don't want to overload your system with some many "estrogens" that your liver starts filtering them out and your estrogen receptors don't go dormant.
The second reason is that BO is said to stimulate NATURAL production of estrogen in the ovaries. If your system is overloaded with phytoestrogens, which are much weaker, the herbal may tie up your receptors so that your natural estrogens will not reach the cells.
Sun
(Login ThaliaSun) Re: Fenugreek & BO? May 9 2007, 6:31 PM
Excellent-- thank you. Exactly what I was looking for.
I've been considering some information on the importance of galactagogues in NBE, and if I'm just taking BO which is acting to increase estrogen, am I not missing the boat on the galactagogues?
~Sun
Ann5
(Login Ann5)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Fenugreek & BO? May 9 2007, 8:04 PM
That's good to know. I'd like to know the answer to that question as well. Like goat's rue is a galactagogue (sp?), but is it a phytoestrogen? Would it be really bad to combine goat's rue with BO?
Fluffy Sheep
(Login fawnmarie) Re: Fenugreek & BO? May 12 2007, 1:46 AM
There are other ways to stimulate prolactin production besides galactagogues - like a nice cold beer and massage, reducing nicotine and caffeine, etc.
I don't believe goat's rue is a phytoestrogen, but it can cause uterine contractions, which are uncomfortable.