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Has anyone died yet?
December 9 2006 at 1:48 PM Patricia (no login)
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Has anyone died yet from contracting mad cowe disease?
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Molly
(Login MollyH)
EVE MEMBERS Re: Has anyone died yet? December 9 2006, 8:49 PM
According to the UK government there have been 162 cases of vCJD in the UK. This is the disease which is believed to be caused by eating infected bovine products and the information is almost up-to-date (29 September 2006). Note that 6 of those 162 cases are not confirmed because those 6 people are still alive. It's only possible to be certain someone has the mad cow vCJD by carrying out a brain examination after their death.
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Anna
(no login) Re: Has anyone died yet? December 13 2006, 9:05 AM
I thought mad cowe disease had a lag time of 15 years, so it's a bit soon to die already
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jellyboobs
(Login jellyboobs)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Has anyone died yet? December 13 2006, 10:00 AM
now thats scary !
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Sissy
(Login sissy2345)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Has anyone died yet? December 13 2006, 11:29 AM
Well, it will be pretty funny at my funeral when everybody is saying how strange it is that I died of Mad Cow disease, when I rarely eat meat....but WOW, don't her boobs look nice and big!! lol
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Molly
(Login MollyH)
EVE MEMBERS Re: Has anyone died yet? December 14 2006, 6:24 PM
Regarding it being too soon to die of vCJD, the first confirmed cases were people who died in 1995. 3 people died then and the number of deaths increased each year until it reached a high of 28 in the year 2000. Since then the number of deaths has been declining and so far this year there have been only 5. The total number of cases in the UK since 1995 now stands at 164 (from government statistics dated 7 December).
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michelle choi
(Login chelle_choi)
SENIOR MEMBER Sissy you're too funny! December 14 2006, 7:24 PM
Sorry guys, i know it's really not a laughing matter about mad cow disease, but Sissy you cracked me up!!
Thanks for the laugh.
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Sissy
(Login sissy2345)
SENIOR MEMBER Of course it's not funny..... December 15 2006, 12:17 AM
but I have faith that our BO is from healthy cows and am trying not to think of the chance that I am taking by trying to better my boobs. Then I see that question here and wonder of the purpose? We have just as much chance of MCD as those who eat a quarter pounders and t-bones don't we? I never did any research on the disease, and try not to think about it -- like I am sure other BO users are not doing, but I am taking about the equivelant of what, less than two-teaspoons of cow daily? That's a bite of a Big Mac.
I know that the BO in BB is from outside the states, but still, I am no more worried than I am about the herbs I take being filled with cancer causing pesticides.
Glad you liked that Michelle
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Vicky A
(Login VickyA) Re: Has anyone died yet? December 15 2006, 9:44 AM
You are wrong to imply that the mad cow risk is decreased if you only consume a small amount of a bovine product. It is believed that if you eat an infected bovine product then you are infected yourself. Any infected material will do, even a tiny amount. You are also wrong to suggest that those who eat quarter pounders have the same risk. According to the FDA, that is not true at all and the prime meat of a cow is not regarded as as a transmitter of the infection. Good quality meat has never been regarded as dangerous, whereas the glandular parts of a cow are a known risk. You also made a third error in assuming that medicinal herbs are grown with the use of pesticides, as many medicinal herbs are organically grown and use no pesticides at all.
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Sissy
(Login sissy2345)
SENIOR MEMBER ??? December 15 2006, 10:53 AM
Vicki, we are all entitled to our opinion. So I am wrong, I'm not getting into a debate over the safety of the pills I am taking. We are told that th FDA also inspects the BO products. I have faith that that that the product is not from diseased cows, just as we have to have faith that the herbs we take are grown organic like we are told.
By the way, you are wrong, I didn't say that the herbs ARE filled with pesticides, I said I'm not worried about it, meaning that I have to believe they are not, just as you do apparently.
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Vicky A
(Login VickyA) Re: Has anyone died yet? December 15 2006, 2:57 PM
It's hard to see how the FDA could inspect bovine ovary products, especially as they come from overseas. I think someone may have told you a fairy story there. However, one positive thing is that the FDA has at least not banned bovine ovary, unlike the UK government which banned it several years ago. The FDA has though stated that bovine ovary is proven to carry the mad cow infectious agent, so it does acknowledge that there is a risk there.
On the subject of herbs, not all medicinal herbs are grown organically, although many of them are.
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emmie
(Login emmiedee) come on ladies December 15 2006, 3:39 PM
lets not get picky. vicky et al, thank you for the information and the warning. noted and logged, and those of us taking bo know that there may be a tiny chance that new zealand (where at least mine come from) might have come up with a case of mad cow and the cow from whom the ovaries i toss down my throat fifteen times a day may have eaten another cow (cannibal cows... im sure they have already made a movie about it...). however, factual evidence is always appreciated, so thank you for the concern and the info.
lets just not get catty, please, ladies, and start arguments?
people have different tolerances of risk. live and let live? i like roller coasters, but draw the line at carnival rides because they are just a little too risky (though i also carry a gun and go to areas where people shoot at me for a year at a time, but still i will not get on the zipper down at the shore...). some people will take all kinds of herbs, but draw the line at bo... to each their own. as long as the risks are known and acknowledged, everyone gets to make their own decisions...
and plus, as sissy said, at the funeral everyone can say "boy, such a shame... but what nice boobies!"
hugs to all, ladies, bo takers or not!
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Patricia
(no login) Re: Has anyone died yet? December 15 2006, 7:47 PM
The purpose of the original question was curiosity.
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Katrina
(no login) Truth about Mad Cow Disease... December 16 2006, 12:12 AM
*What is the cause of Mad Cow Disease?*
Currently the most accepted theory is that the causative agent is a modified form of a normal cell surface protein called a prion (pronounced PREE-ON) protein.
*Where did Prions come from? Are they a type of virus or bacteria? What are they?*
A prion is neither a virus nor a bacteria. Prions are proteins that contain no DNA or RNA, two substances previously felt to be essential for reproduction of a living tissue.
Prions are normal constituents of the body when in their normal form or conformation, but they can become twisted in a conformational change ( a change in shape - in the way the molecule is folded), and then they are thought to cause disease.
Prions exist, but it is extremely doubtful that the Prion is the "CAUSE" of ANY disease. Prions are much more likely to be the "RESULT" of a sick and dying body. Prions are most probably a RESPONSE to the illness that was actually CAUSED by a grossly improper diet and other unhealthy lifestyle factors.
"Factory farming" of animals, with the massive use of hormones, pesticides and other harmful substances destroy the animal's immune system.
*How to avoid Mad Cow Disease*
You can avoid beef that has been raised this way by buying grass-fed beef.
Eating beef that is grass-fed eliminates the chance of ingesting these hormones, pesticides and other harmful substances.
Why? Because grass-fed cattle are fed only grass. Not diseased animals that have been ground up and put into the cattle feed, as is the case with the majority of traditional beef.
You can now order grass-fed beef online, at Grassfed Organics. The beef is available in a variety of cuts, shipped to your door overnight.
~Hope this helps!~
Don't worry...BE HAPPY
December 9 2006 at 1:48 PM Patricia (no login)
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Has anyone died yet from contracting mad cowe disease?
Author Reply
Molly
(Login MollyH)
EVE MEMBERS Re: Has anyone died yet? December 9 2006, 8:49 PM
According to the UK government there have been 162 cases of vCJD in the UK. This is the disease which is believed to be caused by eating infected bovine products and the information is almost up-to-date (29 September 2006). Note that 6 of those 162 cases are not confirmed because those 6 people are still alive. It's only possible to be certain someone has the mad cow vCJD by carrying out a brain examination after their death.
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Anna
(no login) Re: Has anyone died yet? December 13 2006, 9:05 AM
I thought mad cowe disease had a lag time of 15 years, so it's a bit soon to die already
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jellyboobs
(Login jellyboobs)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Has anyone died yet? December 13 2006, 10:00 AM
now thats scary !
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Sissy
(Login sissy2345)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Has anyone died yet? December 13 2006, 11:29 AM
Well, it will be pretty funny at my funeral when everybody is saying how strange it is that I died of Mad Cow disease, when I rarely eat meat....but WOW, don't her boobs look nice and big!! lol
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Molly
(Login MollyH)
EVE MEMBERS Re: Has anyone died yet? December 14 2006, 6:24 PM
Regarding it being too soon to die of vCJD, the first confirmed cases were people who died in 1995. 3 people died then and the number of deaths increased each year until it reached a high of 28 in the year 2000. Since then the number of deaths has been declining and so far this year there have been only 5. The total number of cases in the UK since 1995 now stands at 164 (from government statistics dated 7 December).
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michelle choi
(Login chelle_choi)
SENIOR MEMBER Sissy you're too funny! December 14 2006, 7:24 PM
Sorry guys, i know it's really not a laughing matter about mad cow disease, but Sissy you cracked me up!!
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Sissy
(Login sissy2345)
SENIOR MEMBER Of course it's not funny..... December 15 2006, 12:17 AM
but I have faith that our BO is from healthy cows and am trying not to think of the chance that I am taking by trying to better my boobs. Then I see that question here and wonder of the purpose? We have just as much chance of MCD as those who eat a quarter pounders and t-bones don't we? I never did any research on the disease, and try not to think about it -- like I am sure other BO users are not doing, but I am taking about the equivelant of what, less than two-teaspoons of cow daily? That's a bite of a Big Mac.
I know that the BO in BB is from outside the states, but still, I am no more worried than I am about the herbs I take being filled with cancer causing pesticides.
Glad you liked that Michelle
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Vicky A
(Login VickyA) Re: Has anyone died yet? December 15 2006, 9:44 AM
You are wrong to imply that the mad cow risk is decreased if you only consume a small amount of a bovine product. It is believed that if you eat an infected bovine product then you are infected yourself. Any infected material will do, even a tiny amount. You are also wrong to suggest that those who eat quarter pounders have the same risk. According to the FDA, that is not true at all and the prime meat of a cow is not regarded as as a transmitter of the infection. Good quality meat has never been regarded as dangerous, whereas the glandular parts of a cow are a known risk. You also made a third error in assuming that medicinal herbs are grown with the use of pesticides, as many medicinal herbs are organically grown and use no pesticides at all.
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Sissy
(Login sissy2345)
SENIOR MEMBER ??? December 15 2006, 10:53 AM
Vicki, we are all entitled to our opinion. So I am wrong, I'm not getting into a debate over the safety of the pills I am taking. We are told that th FDA also inspects the BO products. I have faith that that that the product is not from diseased cows, just as we have to have faith that the herbs we take are grown organic like we are told.
By the way, you are wrong, I didn't say that the herbs ARE filled with pesticides, I said I'm not worried about it, meaning that I have to believe they are not, just as you do apparently.
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Vicky A
(Login VickyA) Re: Has anyone died yet? December 15 2006, 2:57 PM
It's hard to see how the FDA could inspect bovine ovary products, especially as they come from overseas. I think someone may have told you a fairy story there. However, one positive thing is that the FDA has at least not banned bovine ovary, unlike the UK government which banned it several years ago. The FDA has though stated that bovine ovary is proven to carry the mad cow infectious agent, so it does acknowledge that there is a risk there.
On the subject of herbs, not all medicinal herbs are grown organically, although many of them are.
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emmie
(Login emmiedee) come on ladies December 15 2006, 3:39 PM
lets not get picky. vicky et al, thank you for the information and the warning. noted and logged, and those of us taking bo know that there may be a tiny chance that new zealand (where at least mine come from) might have come up with a case of mad cow and the cow from whom the ovaries i toss down my throat fifteen times a day may have eaten another cow (cannibal cows... im sure they have already made a movie about it...). however, factual evidence is always appreciated, so thank you for the concern and the info.
lets just not get catty, please, ladies, and start arguments?
people have different tolerances of risk. live and let live? i like roller coasters, but draw the line at carnival rides because they are just a little too risky (though i also carry a gun and go to areas where people shoot at me for a year at a time, but still i will not get on the zipper down at the shore...). some people will take all kinds of herbs, but draw the line at bo... to each their own. as long as the risks are known and acknowledged, everyone gets to make their own decisions...
and plus, as sissy said, at the funeral everyone can say "boy, such a shame... but what nice boobies!"
hugs to all, ladies, bo takers or not!
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Patricia
(no login) Re: Has anyone died yet? December 15 2006, 7:47 PM
The purpose of the original question was curiosity.
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Katrina
(no login) Truth about Mad Cow Disease... December 16 2006, 12:12 AM
*What is the cause of Mad Cow Disease?*
Currently the most accepted theory is that the causative agent is a modified form of a normal cell surface protein called a prion (pronounced PREE-ON) protein.
*Where did Prions come from? Are they a type of virus or bacteria? What are they?*
A prion is neither a virus nor a bacteria. Prions are proteins that contain no DNA or RNA, two substances previously felt to be essential for reproduction of a living tissue.
Prions are normal constituents of the body when in their normal form or conformation, but they can become twisted in a conformational change ( a change in shape - in the way the molecule is folded), and then they are thought to cause disease.
Prions exist, but it is extremely doubtful that the Prion is the "CAUSE" of ANY disease. Prions are much more likely to be the "RESULT" of a sick and dying body. Prions are most probably a RESPONSE to the illness that was actually CAUSED by a grossly improper diet and other unhealthy lifestyle factors.
"Factory farming" of animals, with the massive use of hormones, pesticides and other harmful substances destroy the animal's immune system.
*How to avoid Mad Cow Disease*
You can avoid beef that has been raised this way by buying grass-fed beef.
Eating beef that is grass-fed eliminates the chance of ingesting these hormones, pesticides and other harmful substances.
Why? Because grass-fed cattle are fed only grass. Not diseased animals that have been ground up and put into the cattle feed, as is the case with the majority of traditional beef.
You can now order grass-fed beef online, at Grassfed Organics. The beef is available in a variety of cuts, shipped to your door overnight.
~Hope this helps!~
Don't worry...BE HAPPY