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I know this may not be necessary because no one has posted here in a bit, but another thing to consider taking with PM is l-arginine. Aside from the HGH, it's helps *eliminate waste product* and promote weight loss, so basically it counteracts the bloating pretty much 100 percent from my experience. It also prevents blood clots, just in case anyone is worried about the estrogen and blood clots (although I know of the studies that show the phytos don't cause this, really, but in case anyone is worried). So it does 2 amazing things (not even considering the HGH) with PM. I had to tone down the 10g because it did cause me a couple of pimples at 10.