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Getting implants....sigh.
August 19 2009 at 5:15 PM Kristin (Login napahills)
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So...I'm throwing in the towel with Brava. Don't get discouraged girls...it does work I believe! Heres the deal. I am at week 12, I missed a few days here and there, to the point where I don't know where I am on the calendar anymore. I don't have a smartbox anymore, so I'd wake up many mornings with no suction. Mainly because my domes are so destroyed and bent out of shape. I thought about buying new domes...but I just don't want to put in more money and time into this. I'm tired!! I need sleep!! So at 2am last night, I ripped the darn domes off of me and threw them on the floor.
I give it a good go, and I do feel I got some growth and a prettier shape to my breasts! But...like a lot of you mentioned....I became addicted to the swelling. When they go back down, like now, they feel so flacid and deflated. I saw how beautiful they were when they were firm, and I want that! I have an appt. next week for a consultation, and I'm pretty excited. I do think that my doing brava will help with the implants...give them more room to put them in. I"m not going to get big implants..large B is all. Large B!! Woohoo!
Again, don't give up girls. Brava was working for me..my domes just went kaput....lol.
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waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Getting implants....sigh. August 19 2009, 8:37 PM
Hi Kristin,
Have you considered trying the Noogleberry. It is really cheap in comparison with the Brava system. There are accounts of incredible results in just a couple of 30 minute to 1 hour sessions per day.
At least go register and look at the picture pages. They are inspiring. Although permanent growth is a matter of persistent use for over 2 years, maintenance is just 2 or 3 sessions a week.
When you consider what you are risking with implants and when you consider that every 10 years you would have to have them redone -with another round of risks and complications - it just does not make sense to me.
As I say - at least look at what they are achieving with Noogleberry. That way you can feel you still have options.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
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Kristin
(Login napahills) Re: Getting implants....sigh. August 19 2009, 10:08 PM
I've been noogling along with my brava. Noogle for 1 or 2 hours a day...then brava at night with the noogle pump. I certainly do have a different shape to my breasts now, and they did grow. They look far better than where I started. Not sure the actual growth, since I didn't measure. I'm no where near an A cup...but at least I don't look so much likea boy.
I didn't get much swelling from the Noogle for some reason...I did like the pump for the brava domes though.
Thanks for your advice...I really do wish I could have natural boobs, but it just isn't in the cards. I've tried pills, massage..pretty much everything. I've been miserable for 15 years...and I just want this rollercoaster to be over ya know? With brava I was very depressed...up and down my boobs would go. I was grouchy, and taking it out on everyone around me. LOL...everyone is BEGGING me to just get a boob job! LOL...I'm just going to get a B cup...nothing crazy.
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StacyEllen
(no login) Re: Getting implants....sigh. August 20 2009, 3:06 PM
no judgements here....i feel your pain. I have done 4 cycles with brava and did grow about a cup and 1/2 overall, so i should be happy but i am not. I am stil obsessed with being bigger. The problem with brava is that you literally get the breasts of your dreams when they are swollen (they look like implants!) and then they deflate. I have also noogled, am still noogling but i am frustrated by that. The domes hurt my ribs and i don't get any swelling.
I would get implants in a heartbeat if i knew my body wouldn't reject them and if they would last forever.
I applaud you for trying other things before just quickly going under the knife.....whatever you decide, ultimately, it is about feeling good about your body and being able to hold your head high. If you have lived your whole life feeling like a gross freak because of your flat chest, (i am speaking from experience)then you should listen to your heart and do what is right for you.
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roakie
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Getting implants....sigh. August 20 2009, 6:00 PM
I understand as well. I wish I could offer you more encouragement by saying that there are those of use who would be ecstatic to be a size A! I am a nothing. I have used Brava going on 42 weeks and have not even retained an entire inch yet. I have absolutely NOTHING when viewed from the side. I have used every herb, supplement, hypnosis, etc that I can and nothing works.
I understand wanting implants. I have visited four plastic surgeons and my main concern is simply that the implant would show through my skin. The pectoral muscle only holds the top half (if you have then under the muscle) but the bottom of the implant is simply held by the skin on the lower half of the breast.
Still, I am at the point where I just want to live the rest of my life putting on a normal shirt, not looking for something with pockets, not looking so ugly cause I hide my chest, not spending every minute wondering what to wear, etc.
I know there are many who say we simply need to learn to love our bodies. I have gone 55 years and nursed three children. I have taught aerobics and stood up in front of groups. I haven't hidden myself, but I am ALWAYS self-conscious. The older I get, the more my upper body is just skin without even any underlying fat like many young women have. And, one half of my rib cage sticks out more than the other, so anything I wear has to be baggy since I have no breast tissue to disguise the assymetry.
I haven't made a final decision yet, but when you have tried everything and nothing works, I don't think having small implants is that horrible. Heck, I would totally understand if a women who had had her breasts removed due to cancer would want implants. Yet, to be totally honest, I am every bit as flat as that, except I have a nipple. Should I hold a higher standard for myself, just because they are not natural? Yes, I am scared to have the operation, and afraid of the foreign substance inside me. Yet, my life is still very much on hold because I feel so flat and bony and can't even wear a simply plain cotton shirt. All my bones show and a padded bra simply looks fake and pulls up over my non-breasts.
Suffice it to say that you need to make the decision that seems right for you!
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kristin
(Login napahills) Re: Getting implants....sigh. August 20 2009, 7:15 PM
Thanks ladies. Roakie...I am nowhere near an A cup! I would LOVE an A cup. With the morning swelling, I was an A cup...and it was soooo awesome. I felt huge! Then I would find myself getting depressed as they deflated throughout the day. I'd take it out on my kids...focusing all my energy on these stupid boobs.
A lot of it is that I'm newly divorced. I guess when I was married, I didn't have the fear of anyone being shocked by my body. Now, i can't even think about dating because I won't want them to take off my shirt.
I have the consultation today....will let you all know how it goes!
I will say, that it has been 3 days now without brava, and I did retain some of the growth. So it does work! It's just so exhausting physically and mentally...to me anyway. I feel like my boobs are so flacid too. I got hooked on that swollen feel.
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Rox3
(no login) Re: Getting implants....sigh. August 21 2009, 12:03 AM
I think we all have thought of breast implants at one time or another, just afraid of doing it and how it will all turn out. My sister in law got implants (tear drop shape) and went from an A to a C cup. They look very nice....I do have to admit. She said it was hard the first week after the surgery, but has had no problems since and loves them. It's been about 12 years and she hasn't had to replace them yet. I'm just wondering, how do they check for cancer lumps...can they do the normal mammo? Or do you have to get another procedure? How did the consult go...and what's the scoop?
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waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Getting implants....sigh. August 21 2009, 4:53 AM
I used to think that implants would be the only thing to solve my 'problem'...
I spent 45 years without breasts. I was the two peas on an ironing board, nipple marks the spot, flat, flat, flat. But you know what is funny is that I didn't always feel so self conscious of my 'lack'. When I was very young in my teens and early 20s I was fine with it. I didn't wear bras and I wore skimpy tops. It never seemed to hold me back and very few people made negative comments and if they did it just didn't bother me. I had a lot of guys who liked the way I looked.
Something changed - I don't know exactly when, but at some point I began to use my measly chest as a scapegoat for all that was going wrong in my life. Every disappointment I tied back into my chest. I began to view everything through boob colored glasses. If only this one thing would change then I could be okay. Then I could be less self conscious (ignoring the fact that at an earlier point in my life I had zero self consciousness problems).
The list of boob woes was endless and I bet you could all fill in the blanks to what I put myself through.
I now stand on the other side of my breast obsession. Thank God I discovered Eve's forum. Had I not taken this trip I would still be a sad character. In searching for boobs I found out that I had a serious hormonal problem and when I resolved that I gained my health.
Along the way I gained some boobs too. From my AAAAAA start I am now sitting steadily at a B cup. - I began NBE in 2006. I am not telling you all this to make you feel inadequate if you have not achieved your goals, but to encourage you to continue to seek your solution.
My NBE program was atypical and yet it worked for me. If you are very, very small you may have a hormone issue. Before resorting to surgery at least get your hormones checked. My resolution came from increasing my progesterone to normal levels. Once I did that I responded - without resolving my hormone issues I would never have responded to NBE.
I cannot do herbal NBE because it brings back my hormone issues - however I feel confident that persistent efforts with the Noogle will pay off. That is if I decide to do more. I have been doing nothing NBE wise for several months now. I think I want to continue, but.... maybe... not?
But I also must say this. Nothing significant has changed in my life since I got some boob. I am not more liked or more accepted. I am just as self conscious in certain ways about my body in fact sometimes I worry that my breasts are too 'out there' and I worry that they are attracting the wrong sort of attention. Getting boobs did not solve my problems - my problems are inside my silly little head. The better I love me and the better I deal with my real issues the better life becomes.
We are all perfect just the way we are.
I feel for you Kristin. I wish you well. I also wish you would reconsider. But it is not my choice and really none of my business.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
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kiagirl
(Login kiagirl) fat injections August 22 2009, 4:39 AM
Hi Kristin,
I just wondered if you ever heard of or considered fat injections to the breasts. I watched a webmd video(go to webmd.com & search for either "larger breasts without implants" or "boosting your breasts without implants" A news program interviews Dr. Robert Cory, who I believe invented the Brava System. He explains how the Brava system is used in conjunction with harvested fat from the body and injected into the breasts. Using the Brava system a few weeks beforehand makes room for the fat to be injected & helps it to "take". I also read about this procedure in a plastic surgry journal where a study was done in May of 2007. Several women were treated with this procedure and had excellent results. It is a relatively new procedure and I don't know what the cost would be or how you would go about finding a doctor who is trained to perform it.
I am in the 14th week of my second cycle with brava and have had pretty good results so far--from basically nothing to an A cup. I am hoping for a full B eventually but the going is so slow. I have thought about checking further into this new procedure but really don't have the money. I am trying to be patient. I am lucky though--I have had very few problems with my skin and I can sleep fine on my back.
We all have to make decisions based on what we believe is best for us, but I just thought I would pass on this info for you in case you had never heard about it. It may be worth checking into.
Best of luck,
Kiagirl
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kiagirl
(Login kiagirl) Re: Getting implants....sigh. August 22 2009, 5:04 AM
I'm sorry Kristin--I should have double-checked the name. It's Dr. Roger Khouri. You might also want to do a search on breast enlargment using lipo-transfer or lipo-suction.
Kiagirl
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elle
(no login) Re: Getting implants....sigh. September 7 2009, 1:54 PM
I just wished you did not Kristin you might regret it afterwards. Even Brava does not work for me I never would consider implants as they are harmful for the body. Be positive...
Christine
(no login) implants ...sigh September 21 2009, 11:09 PM
It all boils down to what you want. The old silcone implants which failed, resulted in some very nasty medical problems for some women who were allergic to the silcone. Others never had a problem. THe new saline ones should eliminate the problem....but I agree somewhat to some of the other comments,...To the extent you are looking for male approval, some are hooked on breast, but others really aren't...(they can only get so much in their mouth after all....
If you are happy, that is what counts!
Christine
August 19 2009 at 5:15 PM Kristin (Login napahills)
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So...I'm throwing in the towel with Brava. Don't get discouraged girls...it does work I believe! Heres the deal. I am at week 12, I missed a few days here and there, to the point where I don't know where I am on the calendar anymore. I don't have a smartbox anymore, so I'd wake up many mornings with no suction. Mainly because my domes are so destroyed and bent out of shape. I thought about buying new domes...but I just don't want to put in more money and time into this. I'm tired!! I need sleep!! So at 2am last night, I ripped the darn domes off of me and threw them on the floor.
I give it a good go, and I do feel I got some growth and a prettier shape to my breasts! But...like a lot of you mentioned....I became addicted to the swelling. When they go back down, like now, they feel so flacid and deflated. I saw how beautiful they were when they were firm, and I want that! I have an appt. next week for a consultation, and I'm pretty excited. I do think that my doing brava will help with the implants...give them more room to put them in. I"m not going to get big implants..large B is all. Large B!! Woohoo!
Again, don't give up girls. Brava was working for me..my domes just went kaput....lol.
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waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Getting implants....sigh. August 19 2009, 8:37 PM
Hi Kristin,
Have you considered trying the Noogleberry. It is really cheap in comparison with the Brava system. There are accounts of incredible results in just a couple of 30 minute to 1 hour sessions per day.
At least go register and look at the picture pages. They are inspiring. Although permanent growth is a matter of persistent use for over 2 years, maintenance is just 2 or 3 sessions a week.
When you consider what you are risking with implants and when you consider that every 10 years you would have to have them redone -with another round of risks and complications - it just does not make sense to me.
As I say - at least look at what they are achieving with Noogleberry. That way you can feel you still have options.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
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Kristin
(Login napahills) Re: Getting implants....sigh. August 19 2009, 10:08 PM
I've been noogling along with my brava. Noogle for 1 or 2 hours a day...then brava at night with the noogle pump. I certainly do have a different shape to my breasts now, and they did grow. They look far better than where I started. Not sure the actual growth, since I didn't measure. I'm no where near an A cup...but at least I don't look so much likea boy.
I didn't get much swelling from the Noogle for some reason...I did like the pump for the brava domes though.
Thanks for your advice...I really do wish I could have natural boobs, but it just isn't in the cards. I've tried pills, massage..pretty much everything. I've been miserable for 15 years...and I just want this rollercoaster to be over ya know? With brava I was very depressed...up and down my boobs would go. I was grouchy, and taking it out on everyone around me. LOL...everyone is BEGGING me to just get a boob job! LOL...I'm just going to get a B cup...nothing crazy.
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StacyEllen
(no login) Re: Getting implants....sigh. August 20 2009, 3:06 PM
no judgements here....i feel your pain. I have done 4 cycles with brava and did grow about a cup and 1/2 overall, so i should be happy but i am not. I am stil obsessed with being bigger. The problem with brava is that you literally get the breasts of your dreams when they are swollen (they look like implants!) and then they deflate. I have also noogled, am still noogling but i am frustrated by that. The domes hurt my ribs and i don't get any swelling.
I would get implants in a heartbeat if i knew my body wouldn't reject them and if they would last forever.
I applaud you for trying other things before just quickly going under the knife.....whatever you decide, ultimately, it is about feeling good about your body and being able to hold your head high. If you have lived your whole life feeling like a gross freak because of your flat chest, (i am speaking from experience)then you should listen to your heart and do what is right for you.
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Getting implants....sigh. August 20 2009, 6:00 PM
I understand as well. I wish I could offer you more encouragement by saying that there are those of use who would be ecstatic to be a size A! I am a nothing. I have used Brava going on 42 weeks and have not even retained an entire inch yet. I have absolutely NOTHING when viewed from the side. I have used every herb, supplement, hypnosis, etc that I can and nothing works.
I understand wanting implants. I have visited four plastic surgeons and my main concern is simply that the implant would show through my skin. The pectoral muscle only holds the top half (if you have then under the muscle) but the bottom of the implant is simply held by the skin on the lower half of the breast.
Still, I am at the point where I just want to live the rest of my life putting on a normal shirt, not looking for something with pockets, not looking so ugly cause I hide my chest, not spending every minute wondering what to wear, etc.
I know there are many who say we simply need to learn to love our bodies. I have gone 55 years and nursed three children. I have taught aerobics and stood up in front of groups. I haven't hidden myself, but I am ALWAYS self-conscious. The older I get, the more my upper body is just skin without even any underlying fat like many young women have. And, one half of my rib cage sticks out more than the other, so anything I wear has to be baggy since I have no breast tissue to disguise the assymetry.
I haven't made a final decision yet, but when you have tried everything and nothing works, I don't think having small implants is that horrible. Heck, I would totally understand if a women who had had her breasts removed due to cancer would want implants. Yet, to be totally honest, I am every bit as flat as that, except I have a nipple. Should I hold a higher standard for myself, just because they are not natural? Yes, I am scared to have the operation, and afraid of the foreign substance inside me. Yet, my life is still very much on hold because I feel so flat and bony and can't even wear a simply plain cotton shirt. All my bones show and a padded bra simply looks fake and pulls up over my non-breasts.
Suffice it to say that you need to make the decision that seems right for you!
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kristin
(Login napahills) Re: Getting implants....sigh. August 20 2009, 7:15 PM
Thanks ladies. Roakie...I am nowhere near an A cup! I would LOVE an A cup. With the morning swelling, I was an A cup...and it was soooo awesome. I felt huge! Then I would find myself getting depressed as they deflated throughout the day. I'd take it out on my kids...focusing all my energy on these stupid boobs.
A lot of it is that I'm newly divorced. I guess when I was married, I didn't have the fear of anyone being shocked by my body. Now, i can't even think about dating because I won't want them to take off my shirt.
I have the consultation today....will let you all know how it goes!
I will say, that it has been 3 days now without brava, and I did retain some of the growth. So it does work! It's just so exhausting physically and mentally...to me anyway. I feel like my boobs are so flacid too. I got hooked on that swollen feel.
Edit Message Delete Message
Rox3
(no login) Re: Getting implants....sigh. August 21 2009, 12:03 AM
I think we all have thought of breast implants at one time or another, just afraid of doing it and how it will all turn out. My sister in law got implants (tear drop shape) and went from an A to a C cup. They look very nice....I do have to admit. She said it was hard the first week after the surgery, but has had no problems since and loves them. It's been about 12 years and she hasn't had to replace them yet. I'm just wondering, how do they check for cancer lumps...can they do the normal mammo? Or do you have to get another procedure? How did the consult go...and what's the scoop?
Edit Message Delete Message
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Getting implants....sigh. August 21 2009, 4:53 AM
I used to think that implants would be the only thing to solve my 'problem'...
I spent 45 years without breasts. I was the two peas on an ironing board, nipple marks the spot, flat, flat, flat. But you know what is funny is that I didn't always feel so self conscious of my 'lack'. When I was very young in my teens and early 20s I was fine with it. I didn't wear bras and I wore skimpy tops. It never seemed to hold me back and very few people made negative comments and if they did it just didn't bother me. I had a lot of guys who liked the way I looked.
Something changed - I don't know exactly when, but at some point I began to use my measly chest as a scapegoat for all that was going wrong in my life. Every disappointment I tied back into my chest. I began to view everything through boob colored glasses. If only this one thing would change then I could be okay. Then I could be less self conscious (ignoring the fact that at an earlier point in my life I had zero self consciousness problems).
The list of boob woes was endless and I bet you could all fill in the blanks to what I put myself through.
I now stand on the other side of my breast obsession. Thank God I discovered Eve's forum. Had I not taken this trip I would still be a sad character. In searching for boobs I found out that I had a serious hormonal problem and when I resolved that I gained my health.
Along the way I gained some boobs too. From my AAAAAA start I am now sitting steadily at a B cup. - I began NBE in 2006. I am not telling you all this to make you feel inadequate if you have not achieved your goals, but to encourage you to continue to seek your solution.
My NBE program was atypical and yet it worked for me. If you are very, very small you may have a hormone issue. Before resorting to surgery at least get your hormones checked. My resolution came from increasing my progesterone to normal levels. Once I did that I responded - without resolving my hormone issues I would never have responded to NBE.
I cannot do herbal NBE because it brings back my hormone issues - however I feel confident that persistent efforts with the Noogle will pay off. That is if I decide to do more. I have been doing nothing NBE wise for several months now. I think I want to continue, but.... maybe... not?
But I also must say this. Nothing significant has changed in my life since I got some boob. I am not more liked or more accepted. I am just as self conscious in certain ways about my body in fact sometimes I worry that my breasts are too 'out there' and I worry that they are attracting the wrong sort of attention. Getting boobs did not solve my problems - my problems are inside my silly little head. The better I love me and the better I deal with my real issues the better life becomes.
We are all perfect just the way we are.
I feel for you Kristin. I wish you well. I also wish you would reconsider. But it is not my choice and really none of my business.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
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kiagirl
(Login kiagirl) fat injections August 22 2009, 4:39 AM
Hi Kristin,
I just wondered if you ever heard of or considered fat injections to the breasts. I watched a webmd video(go to webmd.com & search for either "larger breasts without implants" or "boosting your breasts without implants" A news program interviews Dr. Robert Cory, who I believe invented the Brava System. He explains how the Brava system is used in conjunction with harvested fat from the body and injected into the breasts. Using the Brava system a few weeks beforehand makes room for the fat to be injected & helps it to "take". I also read about this procedure in a plastic surgry journal where a study was done in May of 2007. Several women were treated with this procedure and had excellent results. It is a relatively new procedure and I don't know what the cost would be or how you would go about finding a doctor who is trained to perform it.
I am in the 14th week of my second cycle with brava and have had pretty good results so far--from basically nothing to an A cup. I am hoping for a full B eventually but the going is so slow. I have thought about checking further into this new procedure but really don't have the money. I am trying to be patient. I am lucky though--I have had very few problems with my skin and I can sleep fine on my back.
We all have to make decisions based on what we believe is best for us, but I just thought I would pass on this info for you in case you had never heard about it. It may be worth checking into.
Best of luck,
Kiagirl
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kiagirl
(Login kiagirl) Re: Getting implants....sigh. August 22 2009, 5:04 AM
I'm sorry Kristin--I should have double-checked the name. It's Dr. Roger Khouri. You might also want to do a search on breast enlargment using lipo-transfer or lipo-suction.
Kiagirl
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elle
(no login) Re: Getting implants....sigh. September 7 2009, 1:54 PM
I just wished you did not Kristin you might regret it afterwards. Even Brava does not work for me I never would consider implants as they are harmful for the body. Be positive...
Christine
(no login) implants ...sigh September 21 2009, 11:09 PM
It all boils down to what you want. The old silcone implants which failed, resulted in some very nasty medical problems for some women who were allergic to the silcone. Others never had a problem. THe new saline ones should eliminate the problem....but I agree somewhat to some of the other comments,...To the extent you are looking for male approval, some are hooked on breast, but others really aren't...(they can only get so much in their mouth after all....
If you are happy, that is what counts!
Christine