Dear loveme-hateme,
Do not eat soy at age 11 !
Soy and other ingredients could very easily drive your development the wrong way, making you smaller chested than you would have been. Other body parts, just as important, could also be affected.
Reasons to stay away from soy and other things that grown women take on this board are given below. (see below) It is from a message I wrote a long time ago. I know it's here somewhere. But here it is again. It is the advise given to all girls under the age of 18 who come here for help.
There are things you can do at age 11, with the help of your parents. I hope that you will talk to your mother. She knows how you feel because she was 11 too. Here is the best thing you can do for now: Don't worry about it. Avoiding stress and worry at developmental ages is very important. But asking you not to worry about that is like asking the impossible, right? So, here are some additional things you can do with the help of your parents.
Eat high quality meat a few times per week along with the rest of your meals. Steak or roast would be better than hamburger (mince meat), for example. Chicken is OK too, as are eggs. The point is that lots of times girls want to do the healthy thing. Everybody knows that vegetables, especially dark leafy greens and those with other bright colors, are the best thing for you. But sometimes people start eating only vegetables and nothing else in an attempt to be the healthiest that they can. If you do this (eating only vegetables but no meat) you will be keeping your body from getting everything it needs to build your body - some of which is found in meat. So, eat a good balanced diet and don't worry. Get plenty of exercise, be the best you can be in your school work and at home, and everything will be alright. You have plenty of time. Enjoy being 11, it only comes once in a lifetime.
Do not eat soy!
Best wishes,
Wahaika
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Here is the message that I referred to above:
To you who are under 18 years of age (actually, 22 is more realistic, but especially under 18). I hope that you will not make a decision which will result in unintended consequences later.
You are still growing and developing, whether you believe it or not. It is a well known fact here and elsewhere that some are late bloomers. It is very well known that women do not finish developing until ages 22 to as late as age 26. I'd say that you might want to wait. Whatever is keeping one from growing now will also affect an NBE effort.
But that might not convince you to wait. Make sure that you understand the following:
The herbs and other things referenced on this site and other sites work at the cellular level. Phytoestrogens (like fenugreek) work because they are close in molecular structure to real estrogens, so they dock to receptor sites and invoke the cell into an RNA sequence which performs whatever that cell is programmed to do. By using phytoestrogens, real estrogen is kept from docking with cells that have estrogen receptors because the phytoestrogen got there first. This is one of the theories why phytoestrogens can be good to fight breast cancer. However, this can also result in an excess of real estrogen because it was not taken up by cells. The hypothalamus/pituitary glands will register this in what is known as the negative feedback system. The body now thinks that it has too much estrogen and produces less real estrogen.
By producing less estrogen, development actually gets worse! Growth and development could very well stop dead in their tracks! Since the herbs and other things are systemic, that is - they circulate body wide through the bloodstream, other areas are affected besides the breasts. Reproductive organs in the pelvic area could be affected as well as the brain!
Also take into account that as a minor, your involvement on this site could easily result in legal action against those who help. This would result in the closing of this board, and others, and the information on here would cease to exist for everyone.
Please wait. You really have more time than you think. The reason these boards exist is to offer advice on how to best proceed, or not, for adult women who are finished with development. Those under 18 should heed the advice and wait. The unintended consequences are greater than you know, and are not worth the risk.
In the event that there are circumstances where endocrine manipulation is warranted, it is a decision best made by parents and you family gynecologist. Other specialists, such as endocrinologists could be sought out to deal with these situations. I think that their methods are far more reliable than anything found here.
Do not eat soy at age 11 !
Soy and other ingredients could very easily drive your development the wrong way, making you smaller chested than you would have been. Other body parts, just as important, could also be affected.
Reasons to stay away from soy and other things that grown women take on this board are given below. (see below) It is from a message I wrote a long time ago. I know it's here somewhere. But here it is again. It is the advise given to all girls under the age of 18 who come here for help.
There are things you can do at age 11, with the help of your parents. I hope that you will talk to your mother. She knows how you feel because she was 11 too. Here is the best thing you can do for now: Don't worry about it. Avoiding stress and worry at developmental ages is very important. But asking you not to worry about that is like asking the impossible, right? So, here are some additional things you can do with the help of your parents.
Eat high quality meat a few times per week along with the rest of your meals. Steak or roast would be better than hamburger (mince meat), for example. Chicken is OK too, as are eggs. The point is that lots of times girls want to do the healthy thing. Everybody knows that vegetables, especially dark leafy greens and those with other bright colors, are the best thing for you. But sometimes people start eating only vegetables and nothing else in an attempt to be the healthiest that they can. If you do this (eating only vegetables but no meat) you will be keeping your body from getting everything it needs to build your body - some of which is found in meat. So, eat a good balanced diet and don't worry. Get plenty of exercise, be the best you can be in your school work and at home, and everything will be alright. You have plenty of time. Enjoy being 11, it only comes once in a lifetime.
Do not eat soy!
Best wishes,
Wahaika
-----------------------------------
Here is the message that I referred to above:
To you who are under 18 years of age (actually, 22 is more realistic, but especially under 18). I hope that you will not make a decision which will result in unintended consequences later.
You are still growing and developing, whether you believe it or not. It is a well known fact here and elsewhere that some are late bloomers. It is very well known that women do not finish developing until ages 22 to as late as age 26. I'd say that you might want to wait. Whatever is keeping one from growing now will also affect an NBE effort.
But that might not convince you to wait. Make sure that you understand the following:
The herbs and other things referenced on this site and other sites work at the cellular level. Phytoestrogens (like fenugreek) work because they are close in molecular structure to real estrogens, so they dock to receptor sites and invoke the cell into an RNA sequence which performs whatever that cell is programmed to do. By using phytoestrogens, real estrogen is kept from docking with cells that have estrogen receptors because the phytoestrogen got there first. This is one of the theories why phytoestrogens can be good to fight breast cancer. However, this can also result in an excess of real estrogen because it was not taken up by cells. The hypothalamus/pituitary glands will register this in what is known as the negative feedback system. The body now thinks that it has too much estrogen and produces less real estrogen.
By producing less estrogen, development actually gets worse! Growth and development could very well stop dead in their tracks! Since the herbs and other things are systemic, that is - they circulate body wide through the bloodstream, other areas are affected besides the breasts. Reproductive organs in the pelvic area could be affected as well as the brain!
Also take into account that as a minor, your involvement on this site could easily result in legal action against those who help. This would result in the closing of this board, and others, and the information on here would cease to exist for everyone.
Please wait. You really have more time than you think. The reason these boards exist is to offer advice on how to best proceed, or not, for adult women who are finished with development. Those under 18 should heed the advice and wait. The unintended consequences are greater than you know, and are not worth the risk.
In the event that there are circumstances where endocrine manipulation is warranted, it is a decision best made by parents and you family gynecologist. Other specialists, such as endocrinologists could be sought out to deal with these situations. I think that their methods are far more reliable than anything found here.