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need feedback on breasts pumps
January 7 2008 at 7:28 PM gina (no login)
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Hi
I am thinking about getting a breast enhancement pump and i don't know which one is best. I've been reading alot about it online and I think that brava would be the best choice but I don't have that kind of money. So can anyone tell me of a cheaper alternative that actualy works? I would love to hear opinions from women who have used it. As I was searching on the internet I even found out that people try to make breast pumps at home with plastic containers like from butter and then they buy some parts from the hardware store. Have any of you heard of this?
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Louise
(no login) Re: need feedback on breasts pumps January 7 2008, 8:54 PM
If you want cheap - have a look on google for Noogleberry. They are currently working on a way to make the cups more comfortable so you can wear overnight like Brava in which case theoretically you should get a Brava style result. If you haven't got the time to use like Brava you might want to try the BB machine (read some old posts on this forum or have a look at the bosombuddeez post about halfway down the page to join their forum) - it sucks hard and is under £200. The Noogleberry can also be used for shorter regular sessions which eventually should give and allow you to maintain swelling - we are unsure if this is permanent growth but you should get to a point where you can maintain a bigger size by only using a couple of times per week. Another idea if you have the time but not the money would be to buy brand new Brava domes from ebay (make sure you get the right size by looking at the actual US Brava site dome size calculator - I've seen adverts that blatantly lie about what domes will fit what bra size). Once you have the domes you can make an airlock from fish tank supplies (there are posts on here to tell you how) and then you can use as Brava. I personally bought the entire set from Brava but actually prefer just using their domes with my home-made airlock.
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(no login) louis January 9 2008, 6:19 PM
louis, thanks for the info. you said you have the complete brava set but prefer using your home made one is that because the one you made works better? and if you don't mind me asking how long have you been using the home made one what are your results?
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Louise
(no login) Re: need feedback on breasts pumps January 9 2008, 6:32 PM
I use the proper Brava domes but I use a homemade airlock instead of the smartbox because you suck with your mouth harder than the smartbox so it's giving more suction. This also keeps the domes on tighter which allows you to do more at home and to sleep in a more comfortable position without them falling off.
Technically we can only tell the permanent result from Brava 2 weeks after stopping using it, most people say what they had after 24-48 hours was permanent. I have used average 15 hours per day for 27 weeks, I intend to do 3 more weeks then stop so I'll let you know. At the moment it looks like I've gained 2-2.5 inches which is about 1-1.5 cup sizes. I fill the 32C bra better now than I filled the 32B bra before - hope it lasts!
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(no login) louise January 9 2008, 7:01 PM
Oh okay I think I understand now, when you suck with your mouth, you suck out the air until it is tight and secure in place then you leave it on for 10-15 hours and that is basicly the same thing that the brava smartbox does anyway but you make it tighter with your mouth am I right? I never had any of these machines so I assumed that they sucked out the air until it was tight and then it kept on sucking the whole time you wore it.
If I am understanding it correctly and this is the way it is used then I might as well just buy the domes and make a home made airlock just like you suggested.
Thanks louise and hope everything works out great for you!
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Louise
(no login) Re: need feedback on breasts pumps January 9 2008, 9:30 PM
What you said is right, the domes are more expensive on ebay than from Brava but Brava won't sell you just the domes you have to buy the whole kit which seems to be double the price of all the separate parts. If you buy direct from Brava you will also get a warranty on the domes - I don't know if anywhere else offers this. It would have been slightly under half price for me to just buy the domes and make the airlock, I've also bought a second set of domes meaning that if I'd used ebay I would have spent £700 total and I spent £990.
If you tell me what your underbust, bust and bra size measurements are I can suggest what dome size to get. Basically if you are smaller than 29.5 inches underbust you need narrow and more than 29.5 you need wide. They said I was too small to use Brava as my underbust was less than 28 but I haven't had problems gettting the domes to stay on. Only get the medium if you are AA otherwise you probably want to start with large as they'll last you longer before you grow out of them. If you can wait 3 weeks I can tell you how I got on before you spend your money, if I don't get permanent growth in 7 months then I think that brings the whole technique into question but I'm staying hopeful for C cup!
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livinonaprayer
(no login) Re: need feedback on breasts pumps January 9 2008, 10:03 PM
Louise,
I've not yet tried the airlock, so far I've only used the sportbox. As your breasts swell in the domes, how do you adjust the pressure without the sportbox attached to the tubing? Do you just let out some air to make it more comfortable or do you leave it alone?
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Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: need feedback on breasts pumps January 9 2008, 10:24 PM
As your breasts swell there is less room for the same number of air molecules therefore they are at lower pressure so you need to suck more out not let some back in. Having used the sportbox you know how that feels so you can start off like that and then suck a little more if you want to.
Did you find towards the end of your last session that your body got used to it and you got less swelling? From what I've heard this is quite common. I was beginning to find this so I started 'ramping up' the suction throughout the session. Basically I suck it as hard as I can take it (please take this in context - it sounds quite filthy!) then if it's really uncomfortable and I mean when I can bare it no longer I let some out until it's comfortable, have a few minutes rest and suck again. I first found that doing this I could fill the domes much quicker. I now always have massive swelling and are close if not touching the end of the XL domes in the morning after about 13 hours of wear. Maybe this is how the Noogleberry works? The BB also sucks really really hard then slightly relaxes and keeps pulsing up and down so I think there may be something in ths method. I have to suck them on pretty tight to tidy up indoors (bending over nad moving arms loses the seal easily) and to work out. I have to release them slightly to sleep or it'd keep me awake, but having them on pretty tight means you can move around more and sleep more on your side.
To release pressure you can just slowly pull the check valve out (twisting helps keep it slow) not so it's removed from the tube but just enough to hear a hiss and feel the tension relax. It's really easy and if you don't like it you'll have wasted less than $5. I'd always keep an airlock handy in case your sportbox fails at night. Also because the domes are tight you don't need the alarm as you don't break the seal, I only bother to wear the bra to work out and that's more because Callanetics is about correct positions so I wear lyra shorts and the Brava bra so I can see myself in the mirror and check my posture.
Interestingly no matter how hard I suck even if I fill them with water to suck so hard my boobs go purple, even when using the BB I never get hickey marks now - my body has just stopped doing this - weird! Hope I actually get to keep something! I think I pulled the valve out when I was half asleep one night and didn't put it back properly so one day I had 14 hours break after 9 hour session, I was still at least an E in the morning and a decent C before I put them on again. Only 3 more weeks to go!
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livinonaprayer
(no login) Re: need feedback on breasts pumps January 10 2008, 12:52 PM
Louise,
Thanks for the tips on the airlock. I did assemble one in case the sportbox should fail, but so far I have not tried it. I have it just in case. With the sportbox, sometimes it takes just a few minutes and other times the full 10 minutes to get the seal, but once it seals it has stayed put and never alarmed. I've been lucky that I've never lost the seal once I get them on. I also have very dry skin and don't sweat so the filters always stay dry. The domes do get some condensation on the inside ends but so far it has not drawn any into the tubes. The tubes do look like there is an occasional bead of water after 12 or so hours, but that's it. Maybe that's why they stick so well. The sportbox will usually run again for a few minutes (I guess adjusting the pressure) after about the first hour and then I hear it usually once during the night and then again about the 12th hour. I noticed that I can only get a good seal if I have them straight. If I angle the bottom of the domes out at all to avoid the armpit area, they stick out too far. About the swelling, maybe it's because I've been pregnant and breastfed twice, but my swelling has always been the same since the first morning I used Brava through the whole cycle (first cycle was 11 weeks) and I'm on week 7 of my second cycle with a 5 1/2 month break. When I remove the domes, I am a full 34C (I've never tried a D bra so I don't know how it would fit). I have never touched the end of the wide-large domes, so I think they should last me the whole time. I'd like to not have to buy any new domes. I measure 37.5" over bust in the morning. It has been that way the whole time. I don't match the Brava graphs, swelling has been consistent. The only thing I did notice is that if I wear longer than my typical 12 or 13 hours, the swelling of my breasts does not increase much, just my nipples are puffed out, hard and lumpy feeling, but luckily that goes away in about an hour or so. I have never left off the domes more than 12 hours, but I seem to be a small C by the time I put them back on. It's so hard to judge since you get used to seeing the swelling. I'd be happy if they stayed about how they look after domes have been off about 4-6 hours. The morning swelling is great (except for the nipples), but I doubt I'll keep that. When I started Brava, I weighed 120 lbs. 5'5" tall, measured 30.5" under bust, 33.5-34" over bust, and 35" bending forward (breasts hanging). I guess that helps Brava determine your dome sizing. When I remove the domes in the morning, I measure 37.5" over bust. I have not checked the measurement before I put them on again at night. I'll have to check that one. With all the up and down swelling/shrinking you forget what you have. I'm glad I have some starting pictures. I'll keep you posted. Good luck.
January 7 2008 at 7:28 PM gina (no login)
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Hi
I am thinking about getting a breast enhancement pump and i don't know which one is best. I've been reading alot about it online and I think that brava would be the best choice but I don't have that kind of money. So can anyone tell me of a cheaper alternative that actualy works? I would love to hear opinions from women who have used it. As I was searching on the internet I even found out that people try to make breast pumps at home with plastic containers like from butter and then they buy some parts from the hardware store. Have any of you heard of this?
Author Reply
Louise
(no login) Re: need feedback on breasts pumps January 7 2008, 8:54 PM
If you want cheap - have a look on google for Noogleberry. They are currently working on a way to make the cups more comfortable so you can wear overnight like Brava in which case theoretically you should get a Brava style result. If you haven't got the time to use like Brava you might want to try the BB machine (read some old posts on this forum or have a look at the bosombuddeez post about halfway down the page to join their forum) - it sucks hard and is under £200. The Noogleberry can also be used for shorter regular sessions which eventually should give and allow you to maintain swelling - we are unsure if this is permanent growth but you should get to a point where you can maintain a bigger size by only using a couple of times per week. Another idea if you have the time but not the money would be to buy brand new Brava domes from ebay (make sure you get the right size by looking at the actual US Brava site dome size calculator - I've seen adverts that blatantly lie about what domes will fit what bra size). Once you have the domes you can make an airlock from fish tank supplies (there are posts on here to tell you how) and then you can use as Brava. I personally bought the entire set from Brava but actually prefer just using their domes with my home-made airlock.
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gina
(no login) louis January 9 2008, 6:19 PM
louis, thanks for the info. you said you have the complete brava set but prefer using your home made one is that because the one you made works better? and if you don't mind me asking how long have you been using the home made one what are your results?
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Louise
(no login) Re: need feedback on breasts pumps January 9 2008, 6:32 PM
I use the proper Brava domes but I use a homemade airlock instead of the smartbox because you suck with your mouth harder than the smartbox so it's giving more suction. This also keeps the domes on tighter which allows you to do more at home and to sleep in a more comfortable position without them falling off.
Technically we can only tell the permanent result from Brava 2 weeks after stopping using it, most people say what they had after 24-48 hours was permanent. I have used average 15 hours per day for 27 weeks, I intend to do 3 more weeks then stop so I'll let you know. At the moment it looks like I've gained 2-2.5 inches which is about 1-1.5 cup sizes. I fill the 32C bra better now than I filled the 32B bra before - hope it lasts!
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gina
(no login) louise January 9 2008, 7:01 PM
Oh okay I think I understand now, when you suck with your mouth, you suck out the air until it is tight and secure in place then you leave it on for 10-15 hours and that is basicly the same thing that the brava smartbox does anyway but you make it tighter with your mouth am I right? I never had any of these machines so I assumed that they sucked out the air until it was tight and then it kept on sucking the whole time you wore it.
If I am understanding it correctly and this is the way it is used then I might as well just buy the domes and make a home made airlock just like you suggested.
Thanks louise and hope everything works out great for you!
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Louise
(no login) Re: need feedback on breasts pumps January 9 2008, 9:30 PM
What you said is right, the domes are more expensive on ebay than from Brava but Brava won't sell you just the domes you have to buy the whole kit which seems to be double the price of all the separate parts. If you buy direct from Brava you will also get a warranty on the domes - I don't know if anywhere else offers this. It would have been slightly under half price for me to just buy the domes and make the airlock, I've also bought a second set of domes meaning that if I'd used ebay I would have spent £700 total and I spent £990.
If you tell me what your underbust, bust and bra size measurements are I can suggest what dome size to get. Basically if you are smaller than 29.5 inches underbust you need narrow and more than 29.5 you need wide. They said I was too small to use Brava as my underbust was less than 28 but I haven't had problems gettting the domes to stay on. Only get the medium if you are AA otherwise you probably want to start with large as they'll last you longer before you grow out of them. If you can wait 3 weeks I can tell you how I got on before you spend your money, if I don't get permanent growth in 7 months then I think that brings the whole technique into question but I'm staying hopeful for C cup!
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livinonaprayer
(no login) Re: need feedback on breasts pumps January 9 2008, 10:03 PM
Louise,
I've not yet tried the airlock, so far I've only used the sportbox. As your breasts swell in the domes, how do you adjust the pressure without the sportbox attached to the tubing? Do you just let out some air to make it more comfortable or do you leave it alone?
Edit Message Delete Message
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: need feedback on breasts pumps January 9 2008, 10:24 PM
As your breasts swell there is less room for the same number of air molecules therefore they are at lower pressure so you need to suck more out not let some back in. Having used the sportbox you know how that feels so you can start off like that and then suck a little more if you want to.
Did you find towards the end of your last session that your body got used to it and you got less swelling? From what I've heard this is quite common. I was beginning to find this so I started 'ramping up' the suction throughout the session. Basically I suck it as hard as I can take it (please take this in context - it sounds quite filthy!) then if it's really uncomfortable and I mean when I can bare it no longer I let some out until it's comfortable, have a few minutes rest and suck again. I first found that doing this I could fill the domes much quicker. I now always have massive swelling and are close if not touching the end of the XL domes in the morning after about 13 hours of wear. Maybe this is how the Noogleberry works? The BB also sucks really really hard then slightly relaxes and keeps pulsing up and down so I think there may be something in ths method. I have to suck them on pretty tight to tidy up indoors (bending over nad moving arms loses the seal easily) and to work out. I have to release them slightly to sleep or it'd keep me awake, but having them on pretty tight means you can move around more and sleep more on your side.
To release pressure you can just slowly pull the check valve out (twisting helps keep it slow) not so it's removed from the tube but just enough to hear a hiss and feel the tension relax. It's really easy and if you don't like it you'll have wasted less than $5. I'd always keep an airlock handy in case your sportbox fails at night. Also because the domes are tight you don't need the alarm as you don't break the seal, I only bother to wear the bra to work out and that's more because Callanetics is about correct positions so I wear lyra shorts and the Brava bra so I can see myself in the mirror and check my posture.
Interestingly no matter how hard I suck even if I fill them with water to suck so hard my boobs go purple, even when using the BB I never get hickey marks now - my body has just stopped doing this - weird! Hope I actually get to keep something! I think I pulled the valve out when I was half asleep one night and didn't put it back properly so one day I had 14 hours break after 9 hour session, I was still at least an E in the morning and a decent C before I put them on again. Only 3 more weeks to go!
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livinonaprayer
(no login) Re: need feedback on breasts pumps January 10 2008, 12:52 PM
Louise,
Thanks for the tips on the airlock. I did assemble one in case the sportbox should fail, but so far I have not tried it. I have it just in case. With the sportbox, sometimes it takes just a few minutes and other times the full 10 minutes to get the seal, but once it seals it has stayed put and never alarmed. I've been lucky that I've never lost the seal once I get them on. I also have very dry skin and don't sweat so the filters always stay dry. The domes do get some condensation on the inside ends but so far it has not drawn any into the tubes. The tubes do look like there is an occasional bead of water after 12 or so hours, but that's it. Maybe that's why they stick so well. The sportbox will usually run again for a few minutes (I guess adjusting the pressure) after about the first hour and then I hear it usually once during the night and then again about the 12th hour. I noticed that I can only get a good seal if I have them straight. If I angle the bottom of the domes out at all to avoid the armpit area, they stick out too far. About the swelling, maybe it's because I've been pregnant and breastfed twice, but my swelling has always been the same since the first morning I used Brava through the whole cycle (first cycle was 11 weeks) and I'm on week 7 of my second cycle with a 5 1/2 month break. When I remove the domes, I am a full 34C (I've never tried a D bra so I don't know how it would fit). I have never touched the end of the wide-large domes, so I think they should last me the whole time. I'd like to not have to buy any new domes. I measure 37.5" over bust in the morning. It has been that way the whole time. I don't match the Brava graphs, swelling has been consistent. The only thing I did notice is that if I wear longer than my typical 12 or 13 hours, the swelling of my breasts does not increase much, just my nipples are puffed out, hard and lumpy feeling, but luckily that goes away in about an hour or so. I have never left off the domes more than 12 hours, but I seem to be a small C by the time I put them back on. It's so hard to judge since you get used to seeing the swelling. I'd be happy if they stayed about how they look after domes have been off about 4-6 hours. The morning swelling is great (except for the nipples), but I doubt I'll keep that. When I started Brava, I weighed 120 lbs. 5'5" tall, measured 30.5" under bust, 33.5-34" over bust, and 35" bending forward (breasts hanging). I guess that helps Brava determine your dome sizing. When I remove the domes in the morning, I measure 37.5" over bust. I have not checked the measurement before I put them on again at night. I'll have to check that one. With all the up and down swelling/shrinking you forget what you have. I'm glad I have some starting pictures. I'll keep you posted. Good luck.