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Need Brava-type invention help!!
December 6 2008 at 4:04 PM roakie (Login roakie)
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Okay, if you all remember, I am leaving for a nine-day vacation over Christmas where I definitely cannot take my Brava domes. I would be mortified if customs in Central America pulled out the domes in front of everyone. But, I would not be against taking some sort of "invention" like small tupperware plastic bowls (ha ha!) that have holes drilled in the sides where I might be able to push tubing through and do manual suction. If they pulled out the bowls, they wouldn't think anything of it.
I do not need large domes at this point. Swelling only gets up to an A cup. So, I could hide my suctioning at night under the covers without my grown children knowing and at least try to maintain what I have developed over 6 weeks.
The trick is - how do I keep the "invention" on? Will something like plastic bowls stick to my chest??
Also - I am going to be living out of a small backpack and traveling around. This is another reason I cannot take huge Brava domes which will take up 1/4 of the space. I also won't be too sanitary so I would not be able to devote a lot of time to washing things carefully like I have to with the Brava silicone rims.
Any thoughts?
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StacyEllen
(no login) Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 6 2008, 4:45 PM
i think you should just enjoy a "vacation" from Brava while on vacation.
You have been extremely diligent with Brava so far and done lots of hours per day so maybe you will be rewarded by not losing it all....if not, you knew you were taking a chance starting Brava before you went on vacation....it is a terrible bummer, but at least when you start up again, you'll be a pro.
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 7 2008, 6:22 AM
Thanks, Stacy. You're right. I knew I was taking a chance. I will agree with one thing - it will sure be nice to get nine nights of good sleep!!!
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CousinRose
(Login CousinRose) Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 7 2008, 1:38 PM
I know this is not the advise you are looking for and I sometimes get annoyed when people offer advise like this but I think it is worth a try
If I was you I would take the system with me. If the costums ask you about it (very very very unlikly), tell them the truth. I am sure they will be more mortified then you will be. You have done so well and it will be such a shame to loose it all. Maybe it is worth the risk?
I am actually pround to be on a NBE quest and I have told my friends and family about it and they are really excited for me. I personally think this is something to be proud of, we have small breasts and we are doing something about it that is not a threat to our health. It took a while for me to "come out of the NBE closet" but my friends have been very supportive. Your family might surprize you and give you an extra motivation
Just explain why you are doing it and tell them all about the science behind it. I think it is stressful to try to hide it from my friends and family.
Who cares if a person in the customs asks about it. Maybe it will be a small chested woman who will find it interesting Anyway, you will never have to see that person again and these people have seen it all!
You said earlier there was a problem with electricity ... just use manual airlock while you are there.
Whatever you do I wish you all of luck and continue to keep us posted
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 7 2008, 4:02 PM
I agree - the worst part is losing everything I have worked so hard to initiate. I wish I could find something about half the size as the Brava domes since I don't need such a large size at this point. And I worry about washing and drying the domes since we will be in less than sanitary conditions.
Any other inventive types on here????
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dandelion
(Login dandelion1) Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 7 2008, 4:56 PM
u could always get a noogleberry - its lighter and takes less space, and looks less questionable than brava.
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Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 7 2008, 6:26 PM
You could possibly try a breastfeeding pump - I know a couple of people have used Evenflo. At least that has a genuine function if someone starts waving it about. I took 2 complete Brava sets with airlocks on a long haul flight. If you put it in your main suitcase that goes in the hold it will only get xrayed not searched (and it will be done out the back somewhere so no-one will put a name to a face!). None of the Brava stuff will appear on the xray and I doubt the people out the back mess around with your luggage that much.
I have only told one friend about the whole suction thing. She can understand as she's small too but skinnier than me so it looks proportional. Her sister is naturally stick thin with massive boobs about 28G so she's never wanted to have big boobs as she's seen the flip side. I only told someone after I'd seen it work! I don't think there's anything to be ashamed of in saying "hey, I've lost weight and now I've grown 3 cupsizes to make a nice figure" although it'd have been quite different if it was "hey, I was dumb enough to spend £1500 on strange machines that don't work".
Thank God we all found suction before we wasted loads of money on stupid stuff.
Whatever you do abroad, try to drink lots of water and eat protein.
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Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 7 2008, 6:31 PM
P.S.
In regards to the sleep issues, lots of pillows and lots of blankets is the key - I'm so wrapped up I can hardly move and it's like a cosy nest! Also, once you get the hang of manual suction you should be able to sleep on your side depending which dome size you wear. I can sleep on my side with the narrow XL but the wide XL I lose the seal if I turn too far over.
P.P.S
I fully intend to have a serious look at ways of making a home-made Brava system because it DOES work. All we need is something dome-shaped and some kind of padding. I think plumbing supplies may be the way forward but have been too busy to shop around.
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CousinRose
(Login CousinRose) Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 8 2008, 10:24 PM
I can't wait to try out your invention Louise. And where would we be without you and your advises
I actually skipped the part about the prize of the machine when I told my friends and family about it. It actually wasn't that much at the time I bought it and a little white lie doesn't hurt I am ok for them to know about my will for larger breasts but my obsession can be in the dark for a while longer
Roakie - can't you buy a bigger backpack and put sanitary things in it with the domes? I am so stobborn I would do anything I could!! And just wear it minimal times while you are there so it wont ruin your vacation.
If you have to leave your domes behind and Louise hasn't come with her invention in time, at least you have the experience of using the device and doing it the second time is much easier. Good luck
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 9 2008, 7:19 AM
Well, I have two fears about bringing the domes though I am dreading going backward after six weeks.
First, I am afraid that customs will pull the domes out in front of everyone. I remember going to Mexico once and they went through our bags in front of all the other passengers on the plane. Secondly, I have a fear that they could get nasty and confiscate the domes and tubing cause they look suspicious for some reason. Then I would be out a lot of money!
I figured if I cold make some temporary device, then if they found it I wouldn't be worried about simply having it thrown away. That's why I thought of two bowls, padding and some tubing, but I haven't found anything workable yet!
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StacyEllen
(no login) Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 9 2008, 12:16 PM
I would worry about them pulling them out too, but now that I am really thinking about it, if they pulled out a dome, I don't think anyone would really connect what it is. They are so huge! It doesn't even look like a breast!
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 9 2008, 5:23 PM
Ha ha!!! Well, they certainly don't resemble MY breasts, that's for sure!
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dandelion
(Login dandelion1) Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 10 2008, 5:49 PM
ok, so my left brava dome is completely destroyed- spent two hours last night trying to get a seal.
i prefer the brava shape to the noogleberry - so some reason the noogleberry stretched my nipple more than my breast and its actually quite painful
i was thinking...............if i took off the silicone rimming and replaced it...because right now there are parts of the left dome that are completely ruined and some parts that are ok, but it creates un unleveled rim so i lose suction.
i tried filling it with rubber latex which was my first mistake. the second mistake was attempting to superglue the area where the rimming is separating from the dome.
so! what about replacing it with silicone gel...i googled that and could not find any silicone gel sheeting for under 200$. so what about using dr. scholls shoe inserts! buying a few, gluing them together and cutting out a circle in the middle, and using that as a cushion? they also have this memory foam type thing and is level ....of course i would need the flat soles (or actually maybe if its raised i could put the thicker part near my armpit as there tends to be a gap there)...
what does everyone think about this? maybe I'll try on the noogleberry first
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 10 2008, 5:56 PM
Dandelion - how did the dome rim get so bad? How old are they? I am on my sixth week only and already the rims are getting a bit bubbly in some spots. I don't know what to advise you but someone here might have some ideas. I just hope mine last, even though they are losing their tackiness.
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Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 10 2008, 10:22 PM
Roakie - 6 weeks ?!?! The tackiness came off my narrow XL domes in about 2 days! They're less irritating to the skin when they lose the sticky. Dandelion means the actual cushion is ripped. Mine have developed this also due to a LOT of manual suction. I've had a good 35 weeks out of them though which would be nearly 3 sessions according to Brava or if you think in terms of hours I've had about 3500 which is nearly 7 sessions worth.
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dandelion
(Login dandelion1) Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 11 2008, 4:35 AM
louise is right - its due to manual heavy suction. also i have been using them for maybe...20 weeks total? maybe more...
i used them for like 3 months on - off when i was living in australia but i had 4 roommates and a bf so this made it very very difficult to keep it consistent so i basically used it like a noogleberry for an hour a day, the swelling lasted approx 4 hours so it was good before going out
now i used it 10 weeks straight before the first attempt at fixing them, and its been downhill ever since. i finally have the time to put in but my domes are failing me
im gonna cave and buy a new pair after the holidays, but they're so expensive!!
at the end of the day, I am bigger. i was a flat 32 a, now i fill out a 32 a still at the end of the day - which means with a push up i actually get cleavedge! with a push up if i shrug my shoulders my breasts actually touch in the middle - now if only this would happen without a push up and needing me to shrug lol! in a bathing suit i still look the same tho...
December 6 2008 at 4:04 PM roakie (Login roakie)
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Okay, if you all remember, I am leaving for a nine-day vacation over Christmas where I definitely cannot take my Brava domes. I would be mortified if customs in Central America pulled out the domes in front of everyone. But, I would not be against taking some sort of "invention" like small tupperware plastic bowls (ha ha!) that have holes drilled in the sides where I might be able to push tubing through and do manual suction. If they pulled out the bowls, they wouldn't think anything of it.
I do not need large domes at this point. Swelling only gets up to an A cup. So, I could hide my suctioning at night under the covers without my grown children knowing and at least try to maintain what I have developed over 6 weeks.
The trick is - how do I keep the "invention" on? Will something like plastic bowls stick to my chest??
Also - I am going to be living out of a small backpack and traveling around. This is another reason I cannot take huge Brava domes which will take up 1/4 of the space. I also won't be too sanitary so I would not be able to devote a lot of time to washing things carefully like I have to with the Brava silicone rims.
Any thoughts?
Author Reply
StacyEllen
(no login) Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 6 2008, 4:45 PM
i think you should just enjoy a "vacation" from Brava while on vacation.
You have been extremely diligent with Brava so far and done lots of hours per day so maybe you will be rewarded by not losing it all....if not, you knew you were taking a chance starting Brava before you went on vacation....it is a terrible bummer, but at least when you start up again, you'll be a pro.
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 7 2008, 6:22 AM
Thanks, Stacy. You're right. I knew I was taking a chance. I will agree with one thing - it will sure be nice to get nine nights of good sleep!!!
Edit Message Delete Message
CousinRose
(Login CousinRose) Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 7 2008, 1:38 PM
I know this is not the advise you are looking for and I sometimes get annoyed when people offer advise like this but I think it is worth a try
If I was you I would take the system with me. If the costums ask you about it (very very very unlikly), tell them the truth. I am sure they will be more mortified then you will be. You have done so well and it will be such a shame to loose it all. Maybe it is worth the risk?
I am actually pround to be on a NBE quest and I have told my friends and family about it and they are really excited for me. I personally think this is something to be proud of, we have small breasts and we are doing something about it that is not a threat to our health. It took a while for me to "come out of the NBE closet" but my friends have been very supportive. Your family might surprize you and give you an extra motivation
Just explain why you are doing it and tell them all about the science behind it. I think it is stressful to try to hide it from my friends and family.Who cares if a person in the customs asks about it. Maybe it will be a small chested woman who will find it interesting
Anyway, you will never have to see that person again and these people have seen it all! You said earlier there was a problem with electricity ... just use manual airlock while you are there.
Whatever you do I wish you all of luck and continue to keep us posted
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 7 2008, 4:02 PM
I agree - the worst part is losing everything I have worked so hard to initiate. I wish I could find something about half the size as the Brava domes since I don't need such a large size at this point. And I worry about washing and drying the domes since we will be in less than sanitary conditions.
Any other inventive types on here????
Edit Message Delete Message
dandelion
(Login dandelion1) Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 7 2008, 4:56 PM
u could always get a noogleberry - its lighter and takes less space, and looks less questionable than brava.
Edit Message Delete Message
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 7 2008, 6:26 PM
You could possibly try a breastfeeding pump - I know a couple of people have used Evenflo. At least that has a genuine function if someone starts waving it about. I took 2 complete Brava sets with airlocks on a long haul flight. If you put it in your main suitcase that goes in the hold it will only get xrayed not searched (and it will be done out the back somewhere so no-one will put a name to a face!). None of the Brava stuff will appear on the xray and I doubt the people out the back mess around with your luggage that much.
I have only told one friend about the whole suction thing. She can understand as she's small too but skinnier than me so it looks proportional. Her sister is naturally stick thin with massive boobs about 28G so she's never wanted to have big boobs as she's seen the flip side. I only told someone after I'd seen it work! I don't think there's anything to be ashamed of in saying "hey, I've lost weight and now I've grown 3 cupsizes to make a nice figure" although it'd have been quite different if it was "hey, I was dumb enough to spend £1500 on strange machines that don't work".
Thank God we all found suction before we wasted loads of money on stupid stuff.
Whatever you do abroad, try to drink lots of water and eat protein.
Edit Message Delete Message
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 7 2008, 6:31 PM
P.S.
In regards to the sleep issues, lots of pillows and lots of blankets is the key - I'm so wrapped up I can hardly move and it's like a cosy nest! Also, once you get the hang of manual suction you should be able to sleep on your side depending which dome size you wear. I can sleep on my side with the narrow XL but the wide XL I lose the seal if I turn too far over.
P.P.S
I fully intend to have a serious look at ways of making a home-made Brava system because it DOES work. All we need is something dome-shaped and some kind of padding. I think plumbing supplies may be the way forward but have been too busy to shop around.
Edit Message Delete Message
CousinRose
(Login CousinRose) Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 8 2008, 10:24 PM
I can't wait to try out your invention Louise. And where would we be without you and your advises
I actually skipped the part about the prize of the machine when I told my friends and family about it. It actually wasn't that much at the time I bought it and a little white lie doesn't hurt
I am ok for them to know about my will for larger breasts but my obsession can be in the dark for a while longer Roakie - can't you buy a bigger backpack and put sanitary things in it with the domes
? I am so stobborn I would do anything I could!! And just wear it minimal times while you are there so it wont ruin your vacation.If you have to leave your domes behind and Louise hasn't come with her invention in time, at least you have the experience of using the device and doing it the second time is much easier. Good luck
Edit Message Delete Message
roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 9 2008, 7:19 AM
Well, I have two fears about bringing the domes though I am dreading going backward after six weeks.
First, I am afraid that customs will pull the domes out in front of everyone. I remember going to Mexico once and they went through our bags in front of all the other passengers on the plane. Secondly, I have a fear that they could get nasty and confiscate the domes and tubing cause they look suspicious for some reason. Then I would be out a lot of money!
I figured if I cold make some temporary device, then if they found it I wouldn't be worried about simply having it thrown away. That's why I thought of two bowls, padding and some tubing, but I haven't found anything workable yet!
Edit Message Delete Message
StacyEllen
(no login) Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 9 2008, 12:16 PM
I would worry about them pulling them out too, but now that I am really thinking about it, if they pulled out a dome, I don't think anyone would really connect what it is. They are so huge! It doesn't even look like a breast!
Edit Message Delete Message
roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 9 2008, 5:23 PM
Ha ha!!! Well, they certainly don't resemble MY breasts, that's for sure!
Edit Message Delete Message
dandelion
(Login dandelion1) Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 10 2008, 5:49 PM
ok, so my left brava dome is completely destroyed- spent two hours last night trying to get a seal.
i prefer the brava shape to the noogleberry - so some reason the noogleberry stretched my nipple more than my breast and its actually quite painful
i was thinking...............if i took off the silicone rimming and replaced it...because right now there are parts of the left dome that are completely ruined and some parts that are ok, but it creates un unleveled rim so i lose suction.
i tried filling it with rubber latex which was my first mistake. the second mistake was attempting to superglue the area where the rimming is separating from the dome.
so! what about replacing it with silicone gel...i googled that and could not find any silicone gel sheeting for under 200$. so what about using dr. scholls shoe inserts! buying a few, gluing them together and cutting out a circle in the middle, and using that as a cushion? they also have this memory foam type thing and is level ....of course i would need the flat soles (or actually maybe if its raised i could put the thicker part near my armpit as there tends to be a gap there)...
what does everyone think about this? maybe I'll try on the noogleberry first
Edit Message Delete Message
roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 10 2008, 5:56 PM
Dandelion - how did the dome rim get so bad? How old are they? I am on my sixth week only and already the rims are getting a bit bubbly in some spots. I don't know what to advise you but someone here might have some ideas. I just hope mine last, even though they are losing their tackiness.
Edit Message Delete Message
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 10 2008, 10:22 PM
Roakie - 6 weeks ?!?! The tackiness came off my narrow XL domes in about 2 days! They're less irritating to the skin when they lose the sticky. Dandelion means the actual cushion is ripped. Mine have developed this also due to a LOT of manual suction. I've had a good 35 weeks out of them though which would be nearly 3 sessions according to Brava or if you think in terms of hours I've had about 3500 which is nearly 7 sessions worth.
Edit Message Delete Message
dandelion
(Login dandelion1) Re: Need Brava-type invention help!! December 11 2008, 4:35 AM
louise is right - its due to manual heavy suction. also i have been using them for maybe...20 weeks total? maybe more...
i used them for like 3 months on - off when i was living in australia but i had 4 roommates and a bf so this made it very very difficult to keep it consistent so i basically used it like a noogleberry for an hour a day, the swelling lasted approx 4 hours so it was good before going out
now i used it 10 weeks straight before the first attempt at fixing them, and its been downhill ever since. i finally have the time to put in but my domes are failing me
im gonna cave and buy a new pair after the holidays, but they're so expensive!!
at the end of the day, I am bigger. i was a flat 32 a, now i fill out a 32 a still at the end of the day - which means with a push up i actually get cleavedge! with a push up if i shrug my shoulders my breasts actually touch in the middle - now if only this would happen without a push up and needing me to shrug lol! in a bathing suit i still look the same tho...