31-10-2023, 04:26
(28-10-2023, 03:53)ShelaVenna Wrote:(28-10-2023, 02:11)breast4success Wrote: Yes, this is better for those still looking for Brava. I know some people have been selling old used domes without all the other equipment/supplies on Ebay for like $2000 to $2500.
You're right about the price. I still have pricing details from the old site and the whole system including an Authorized Brava Physician was $2500 but it only came with 2 sets of domes and a money back guarantee. The cheapest option was the starter system with one set of domes and no physician or guarantee for $850 to 1000.
I wanted to be sure people know they can get real ones now so no one gets ripped off.
Actually, I'm a little disappointed that the rims don't look as soft as Brava's. The whole thing looks like hard plastic. And I also noticed there is nothing about narrow domes.
My problem has always been that I have a narrow chest and not much fat so I could never get suction with hard plastic domes and they would hurt too much to keep trying.
The ones I got off Amazon have soft flexible silicone rubber rims and a firmer silicone plastic for the rest. They're the first domes I've been able to use that I can get suction and stays on. Except now, it starts to hurt after a few hours from prolonged contact with my ribs. I need more cushion or softer dome rims that won't compromise the suction. I might return the dupes for a refund if I can't find a solution.
Unfortunately, the Evebra looks like it would cause more pain if it isn't flexible - and the domes might not fit as well as Brava might have.
I'm surprised that this pump is just a 20 mmHG continuous suction when Brava went up to 33 mmHG and Dr. Khouri has since had his patients using higher pressures (continuous and variable) - but maybe that's just for fat augmentation (?)
The machine I have goes from 20 to 200 mmHG and can be placed on continuous or variable settings. I thought I would start on low continuous then switch to variable with higher pressure to obtain quicker/better results in light of subsequent research. Time will tell.
Noogleberry’s silicone rings are almost perfect IMHO. You might want to give them a try. They’re much, much thicker and softer than the rings that come free with most ebay or amazon systems. They’re also a lot stronger than the brava rings. I’ll admit they’re not as comfortable as the Brava rings in the short term, but I think they’re a whole lot more comfortable in the long term. Brava’s rings caused serious skin irritation that over time developed into infected sores and scarring for a lot of people. The Brava rings also broke down fairly quickly and couldn’t be replaced. Noogleberry’s silicone rings don’t cause any irritation at all for me personally, and they feel like they could easily last years. Time will tell if that’s really true or not. They’re stretchy and come in multiple sizes, so hopefully you can find a set that fits your domes. I don’t recommend their foam rings though. The foam rings are uncomfortable and don’t hold a seal well.
My hope is that the new Evebra rings will be like a hybrid of the Brava rings and the Noogleberry rings. The best of both worlds. I’ll probably never try the Evebra domes, even though I’m curious, because the noogleberry silicone rings already do everything I need them to do. I know my ancient Brava pump, which I bought used, will eventually break, so I hope they’re willing to sell the Evebra pump separately.
What pump are you using now? Does it stay on for an indefinite amount of time, or does it automatically shut off after 30 minutes or so? How much did it cost?
These Brava style pumps can’t maintain an exact pressure as far as I know. Instead they sense the pressure inside the dome, and maintain the pressure within a certain predetermined range. It looks like Evebra is selling a repurposed wound therapy pump, like the one that was originally used for the earliest version of the Brava, and those pumps don’t just suck continuously. They maintain the pressure within a given range by sucking until they reach the high end of the target pressure range, than they stop sucking until the pressure drops below the low end of the range, at which point they start sucking again, and then the cycle repeats as necessary. I hope that makes sense. When he says that the pump maintains 20mmhg, I assume it actually maintains the pressure within a given range, and 20mmhg is either the lowest end of that range, or the middle. I hope it’s the lowest end of the range, because any less than that seems too low.
Thanks, I forgot that Noogleberry had silicone rings. I remember people complaining about the foam ones. They don't look like they'll fit the domes I have. These domes are not like Noogleberry, BB, or the Kangzhu plastic cups - the rim is about 1/2 to 3/4 inches thick. I'll need to see more pictures or videos of the rings to determine whether they could be stretched to fit.
The "pump" I'm using is a DeRoyal (II) negative wound pressure vac and, on continuous mode, it will suck the air out until the desired pressure is met then stops and it will vaccum a bit again to maintain the pressure if the pressure drops a bit inside the domes.
If it's on variable mode, you can set the device so it will increase and decrease pressure according to the pressure you want and you can set the minutes as well. For example, you can set the low end at 20 mmHG and the high end at 50 mmHG and it will alternate between those two pressures for however minutes you want them to be in effect - like 7 minutes at 50 and 3 minutes at 20. Again, the highest pressure is 200 mmHG but I'm not going anywhere near that number.
It will operate for as long as the battery is charged - if you want battery only power. Otherwise, you can plug it in and the pump will operate indefinitely until you turn it off. It might have a timer function, but I haven't look for that and wouldn't use it anyway.
I'm operating it like Brava (or I was trying to) by having it on for 8-10 hours mostly when I sleep.
I found one for about $200.