[surferjoe2007]

Lotus, I didn’t know that about the pueraria. It looks like I’ll stick to the fenugreek for now.

Some in the genetic male forums use 3,000-4,000 mg PM and run into issues.  Don’t do that nor anywhere near it.  That said, 1 in 1000 people get deep vein thrombosis each year or 1 in 12 in their lifetime.  It’s one of the most common conditions.  So if you have 7000 members you’d expect 7 a year to get it while doing nothing, though many may not be active or post about it.  This is why we have studies with control groups.  And hrt or birth control are major sources of added estrogen risk for dvt.  So in theory PM might increase risk too, especially for those using 3,000-4,000 mg, but it’s hard to tell as some could get it anyway and many of them are on hrt.  Other equal or greater main causes besides estrogen are genetics, being sedentary, obesity and recent blood vessel damage such as surgery.  Walking is often recommended as prevention. 

www.pubmed.gov is great for checking for pueraria mirifica studies and finding health benefits and adverse effects.  Similar to BC side effects, hormonal problems with PM are common in forums and studies.  Especially if estrogen dominant (high estrogen and low progesterone).  And many get no side effects.  Yet unlike real estrogen the risks of breast cancer and cardiovascular problems are decreased in most studies.  Besides that, I couldn’t find anything related to dvt or blood clots.  Ludicrous amounts or isolating and super concentrating 1 component molecule from PM did increase cancer in some studies.  It is likely to be safer than real hormones, BC and most drugs. As Lotus mentioned the main thing is to not overdo it.  It is a strong herb.

More dvt info:
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/hormone-replacement-therapy-hrt/risks/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_vein_thrombosis

Bugyisff, I’d hold off on most/all herbs while you have prostate cancer and run everything by your doctor.  Don’t want to strain your body.  Vegetables and whole grains may be helpful. I’ve seen a mediterranian diet mentioned in one study.