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Not well so only taking WU as they're easy to swallow, considering marine collagen.

Brava hours for last 2 weeks:

1) 11.5,11,12,11,12,13,14, total 84.5, Average 12.07
2) 13,12,13,14,12,14,15 total 93, Average 13.28

Last night did 18 hours therefore swelling lasted longer than usual but nipples still back to normal in about 20mins!

Skin feeling better and generally more comfortable.

Gave myself fantastic crescent shaped hickey-like bruises above both boobs, not absolutely sure how as athough I did suck quite a lot of air out it didn't hurt and wasn't as much as with water.

12-14 hours gives similar swelling, 15+ noticeably more but not loads, water with extra suction also gives more.
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Unread postJul 26, 2007#12

My weight has always been up and down as I have a very bad diet but luckily can lose weight very easily when I try. At my fattest my boobs are almost respectable - full 34A, but have gone from 135lbs to 120lbs and lost a lot on top. My aim is to balance my upper and lower body to minimise my pear shape. I'm 25, never been pregnant, don't drink / smoke, don't like coffee, don't have many fizzy drinks, strict veggie but don't like many vegetables so have a high carb intake from potatoes and pasta, probably androgen dominant. Had bad skin since age 22 but went back on the pill recently and that fixed it in 6 weeks (microgynon 30). Intend to get a blood test for hormone levels in the next few weeks.

Stats:

Height 5'1
Weight 120lbs
Hips 36
Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 31
Bust bending 32.5

Would like to be 33+ around boobs as that is what I measure over a padded bra! Anything more would be a bonus, main point is not to put on weight.

Plan: Taken Microgynon BCP for 1 month to check for any adverse effect (have taken it before with no probs), started Wonderup 1 week ago, intend to continue on WU alone for 1 month to check for side effects before introducing nettles and borage oil. Trying to eat more protein and doing Joey Atlas Hip and Thigh Makeover Workout (toning only, no cardio). Have also ordered Brava but not using it yet - I know it's not scientific to try NBE and Brava together but I'm impatient!

**Any comments welcome on this board**

New stats (not sure if this is genuine growth / residual swelling / measuring error)

Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 32.5
Bust bending 33.5
Weight 112 lb

Brava hours this week: 18/12/14/15/13/18/20 total:110, average:15.71

Total so far:287.5 Average: 13.7

Best swelling:34 (bending:35)

Swelling usually to a full C but after 20 hour session got a full D!!

Still taking WU 6x daily, BCP, borage oil intermittently, stopped nettle as turns out I should've bough root not leaves! Diet 2x slim fast bars and egg sandwich with a few snacks and a few cheats per week.
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Unread postAug 03, 2007#13

My weight has always been up and down as I have a very bad diet but luckily can lose weight very easily when I try. At my fattest my boobs are almost respectable - full 34A, but have gone from 135lbs to 120lbs and lost a lot on top. My aim is to balance my upper and lower body to minimise my pear shape. I'm 25, never been pregnant, don't drink / smoke, don't like coffee, don't have many fizzy drinks, strict veggie but don't like many vegetables so have a high carb intake from potatoes and pasta, probably androgen dominant. Had bad skin since age 22 but went back on the pill recently and that fixed it in 6 weeks (microgynon 30). Intend to get a blood test for hormone levels in the next few weeks.

Stats:

Height 5'1
Weight 120lbs
Hips 36
Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 31
Bust bending 32.5

Would like to be 33+ around boobs as that is what I measure over a padded bra! Anything more would be a bonus, main point is not to put on weight.

Plan: Taken Microgynon BCP for 1 month to check for any adverse effect (have taken it before with no probs), started Wonderup 1 week ago, intend to continue on WU alone for 1 month to check for side effects before introducing nettles and borage oil. Trying to eat more protein and doing Joey Atlas Hip and Thigh Makeover Workout (toning only, no cardio). Have also ordered Brava but not using it yet - I know it's not scientific to try NBE and Brava together but I'm impatient!

**Any comments welcome on this board**

Ok, have not been able to put in as many hours this week and really starting to wonder about my measuring technique as smallest bust measurement when swollen was 33.25 and I'm usually 33 when I put them on and they definitely always look a lot bigger even if not huge, at least a C.

Brava hours this week: 15/12.25/13.5/14/13/15.5/20 total:103.25, average:14.75

Total so far: 390.75 Average: 13.96

So according to Brava's original claim of 10hrs x 10wks I've passed the halfway mark.

Smallest bust measurement before domes: 32.5 (usually 33)

Best swelling:34.25 (bending:35.25)

Touching all round sides of domes and nipples touching, domes full except for 3/4 inch gap at the top after 9 hours with water.

Weight 110 lbs and have been eating quite a lot.

Haven't ordered nettle root yet, still not taken much borage oil and only took collagen once after which had bad indigestion. Still taking WU 6x daily.

The question is have I got the guts to wear Brava on my long train journey tomorrow?




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Unread postAug 09, 2007#14

My weight has always been up and down as I have a very bad diet but luckily can lose weight very easily when I try. At my fattest my boobs are almost respectable - full 34A, but have gone from 135lbs to 120lbs and lost a lot on top. My aim is to balance my upper and lower body to minimise my pear shape. I'm 25, never been pregnant, don't drink / smoke, don't like coffee, don't have many fizzy drinks, strict veggie but don't like many vegetables so have a high carb intake from potatoes and pasta, probably androgen dominant. Had bad skin since age 22 but went back on the pill recently and that fixed it in 6 weeks (microgynon 30). Intend to get a blood test for hormone levels in the next few weeks.

Stats:

Height 5'1
Weight 120lbs
Hips 36
Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 31
Bust bending 32.5

Would like to be 33+ around boobs as that is what I measure over a padded bra! Anything more would be a bonus, main point is not to put on weight.

Plan: Taken Microgynon BCP for 1 month to check for any adverse effect (have taken it before with no probs), started Wonderup 1 week ago, intend to continue on WU alone for 1 month to check for side effects before introducing nettles and borage oil. Trying to eat more protein and doing Joey Atlas Hip and Thigh Makeover Workout (toning only, no cardio). Have also ordered Brava but not using it yet - I know it's not scientific to try NBE and Brava together but I'm impatient!

**Any comments welcome on this board**

Really put in maximum hours this week, still don’t seem to be retaining anything but spoke to Brava and they said that starts around week 8-10.

Brava hours this week: 15.25/15.25/16.25/15/13.5/22.5/17
Total: 114.75, Average: 16.39
Total so far: 505.5 Average: 14.44

Bust measurement before domes: 32.5-33

Best swelling: 35.5 (bending: 36.25)

Have found better technique for increased swelling and no bruising – airlock just slightly tight to start and suck a bit more out every couple of hours. Have been doing this for last two days and have put in long hours but at the end of the session have been touching the sides of the domes with just the smartbox and just about completely filling them with extra suction. Have ordered narrow XL domes, may start sessions in the large and move up after few hours.

Still haven't ordered nettle root or taken much borage oil or collagen.
Still taking WU 6x daily and eating fairly well.

(Did wear Brava on the train journey – really not that obvious when sitting down in loose clothes and only got 3 funny looks in the street, this allowed me about 5hrs extra)
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Unread postAug 16, 2007#15

My weight has always been up and down as I have a very bad diet but luckily can lose weight very easily when I try. At my fattest my boobs are almost respectable - full 34A, but have gone from 135lbs to 120lbs and lost a lot on top. My aim is to balance my upper and lower body to minimise my pear shape. I'm 25, never been pregnant, don't drink / smoke, don't like coffee, don't have many fizzy drinks, strict veggie but don't like many vegetables so have a high carb intake from potatoes and pasta, probably androgen dominant. Had bad skin since age 22 but went back on the pill recently and that fixed it in 6 weeks (microgynon 30). Intend to get a blood test for hormone levels in the next few weeks.

Stats:

Height 5'1
Weight 120lbs
Hips 36
Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 31
Bust bending 32.5

Would like to be 33+ around boobs as that is what I measure over a padded bra! Anything more would be a bonus, main point is not to put on weight.

Plan: Taken Microgynon BCP for 1 month to check for any adverse effect (have taken it before with no probs), started Wonderup 1 week ago, intend to continue on WU alone for 1 month to check for side effects before introducing nettles and borage oil. Trying to eat more protein and doing Joey Atlas Hip and Thigh Makeover Workout (toning only, no cardio). Have also ordered Brava but not using it yet - I know it's not scientific to try NBE and Brava together but I'm impatient!

**Any comments welcome on this board**

Went out to buy a non padded wonderbra and found that I had a fair amount of cleavage in a 32C about 4.5 hours after removal (bet they make wonderbras really small though to make you feel better!). At the end of the day and after doing only 13hrs the night before I fit into a non padded 34B, was a full 32B (padded). I don't know that there's much difference in size between 32A, 32B, 34A and 34B - need to try on my old 34As to assess growth compared to when I was fat. Yesterday 4 hours after 21 hours session still had decent boobs, alhamdulillah! Counting down till hubby comes home....really hope he can come round to see them.

Brava hours this week: 15.5/13.5/14.5/15.25/13/21/19
Total: 111.75, Average: 15.96
Total so far: 617.25 Average: 14.69

Bust measurement before domes: 33 (34 once)

Best swelling: 35 (bending: 36.25)

Still using a lot of manual suction, increasing slowly over the session and had touch all round the domes and just about nipples touching by end of sessions. Got XL domes yesterday and touching round the sides but about an inch to go to the ends. (With extra suction could fill the large completely which interestingly takes the pressure off the nipples and they don't swell).

Just about managing to take WU, really hard to remember to do on an empty stomach.

Next week's target is maintaining the swelling
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Unread postAug 23, 2007#16

My weight has always been up and down as I have a very bad diet but luckily can lose weight very easily when I try. At my fattest my boobs are almost respectable - full 34A, but have gone from 135lbs to 120lbs and lost a lot on top. My aim is to balance my upper and lower body to minimise my pear shape. I'm 25, never been pregnant, don't drink / smoke, don't like coffee, don't have many fizzy drinks, strict veggie but don't like many vegetables so have a high carb intake from potatoes and pasta, probably androgen dominant. Had bad skin since age 22 but went back on the pill recently and that fixed it in 6 weeks (microgynon 30). Intend to get a blood test for hormone levels in the next few weeks.

Stats:

Height 5'1
Weight 120lbs
Hips 36
Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 31
Bust bending 32.5

Would like to be 33+ around boobs as that is what I measure over a padded bra! Anything more would be a bonus, main point is not to put on weight.

Plan: Taken Microgynon BCP for 1 month to check for any adverse effect (have taken it before with no probs), started Wonderup 1 week ago, intend to continue on WU alone for 1 month to check for side effects before introducing nettles and borage oil. Trying to eat more protein and doing Joey Atlas Hip and Thigh Makeover Workout (toning only, no cardio). Have also ordered Brava but not using it yet - I know it's not scientific to try NBE and Brava together but I'm impatient!

**Any comments welcome on this board**

Highlight of this week was another fun train journey with domes. Wore the large as the XL look so ridiculous – at least 2 inches deeper. All was fine until I reached in my bag and the domes let out a huge farting noise. Luckily there were only 3 other people in my end of the carriage and it’s not like I’ll see them again but was still a red-faced moment as I stared out the window pretending nothing happened.

Filled a 32DD and wearing 36D (almost full) for comfort since Brava advised not to go braless. Definitely too big for 34C. Really hope hubby can see them. Incidentally have also mastered the Danish pastry…feel v proud of this home baking achievement!

Brava hours this week: 14.5/16/16.25/14.75/13.5/27.75/15.25
Total: 117.75, Average: 16.82
Total so far: 735, Average: 15

Bust measurement before domes: 33-33.5 (34 once)

Best swelling: 36 (bending: 36.75)

Hopefully getting medical hormone testing this afternoon. Really hope they find something fixable. Hope to start maintaining something in the next 2 weeks. Have passed the total hours for 10 hours x 10 weeks.

Was still full C / small D 3.5 hours after removing domes (following 36.75 hours wear).

No luck with hormone testing as would have to come off the pill for results to be reliable, doctor also wants to rescan for PCO.

Have some time off next week so hoping for max Brava time.
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Unread postAug 31, 2007#17

My weight has always been up and down as I have a very bad diet but luckily can lose weight very easily when I try. At my fattest my boobs are almost respectable - full 34A, but have gone from 135lbs to 120lbs and lost a lot on top. My aim is to balance my upper and lower body to minimise my pear shape. I'm 25, never been pregnant, don't drink / smoke, don't like coffee, don't have many fizzy drinks, strict veggie but don't like many vegetables so have a high carb intake from potatoes and pasta, probably androgen dominant. Had bad skin since age 22 but went back on the pill recently and that fixed it in 6 weeks (microgynon 30). Intend to get a blood test for hormone levels in the next few weeks.

Stats:

Height 5'1
Weight 120lbs
Hips 36
Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 31
Bust bending 32.5

Would like to be 33+ around boobs as that is what I measure over a padded bra! Anything more would be a bonus, main point is not to put on weight.

Plan: Taken Microgynon BCP for 1 month to check for any adverse effect (have taken it before with no probs), started Wonderup 1 week ago, intend to continue on WU alone for 1 month to check for side effects before introducing nettles and borage oil. Trying to eat more protein and doing Joey Atlas Hip and Thigh Makeover Workout (toning only, no cardio). Have also ordered Brava but not using it yet - I know it's not scientific to try NBE and Brava together but I'm impatient!

**Any comments welcome on this board**

Bit complicated this week as have had domes on almost constantly for 5 days and that includes merging the end of week 8 and the beginning of week 9. Trying to measure hours per session not in a 24 hour period therefore can do more than 24 hours – I think this will help me more when I look back at my nerdy spreadsheet to assess results. Don’t seem to be getting any extra swelling and difficult to tell if I’m maintaining any better as not left domes off much. The biggest initial swelling (E cup) only lasts about an hour then maybe D cup for 2-4 more hours then C cup. Did get to within about 0.5 cm of touching end of XL domes but don’t want to rush and end up in hospital getting boobs drained! Can suck hard to get left nipple to touch, but can't keep up this much suction and gave myself a bruise doing it. May also consider buying another check valve so can use more suction on the right. Both look similar when swollen but left bigger at end of the day.

Brava hours this week: 14.5/13/12.75(3+9.75)/14.5/29/19/37.5
Total: 140.25, Average: 20.04
Total so far: 875.25, Average: 15.63

Bust measurement before domes: 33.5-34 (but often only left off for 2-3 hours)

Best swelling: 36 (bending: 37)

Giving more thought to herbs. Considering that I’m small and I had feelings after only 4 days with WU, thinking maybe I’d be better with lower dose. I also have really quite a lot of slim fast for protein and that gets its protein from soy which is eostrogenic. So I will wait another couple of days to get definitely into the luteal phase then come off WU for a stall test. If I get any feelings I’ll ramp back up starting maybe at 2 tablets and going up to keep with the feelings. Also thinking about changing bcp to dianette as it is recommended for androgen blocking, or possibly getting propecia – scary!

Have tried putting the borage oil into fruit yoghurt – not too bad, must try to keep up with this. Must try to find something to disguise the disgusting sticky texture of the collagen. Must try to drink more water. Must keep up new regime of thigh exercises. Will judge nest week how well I managed and see if I can award myself a gold star.
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Unread postSep 01, 2007#18

My weight has always been up and down as I have a very bad diet but luckily can lose weight very easily when I try. At my fattest my boobs are almost respectable - full 34A, but have gone from 135lbs to 120lbs and lost a lot on top. My aim is to balance my upper and lower body to minimise my pear shape. I'm 25, never been pregnant, don't drink / smoke, don't like coffee, don't have many fizzy drinks, strict veggie but don't like many vegetables so have a high carb intake from potatoes and pasta, probably androgen dominant. Had bad skin since age 22 but went back on the pill recently and that fixed it in 6 weeks (microgynon 30). Intend to get a blood test for hormone levels in the next few weeks.

Stats:

Height 5'1
Weight 120lbs
Hips 36
Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 31
Bust bending 32.5

Would like to be 33+ around boobs as that is what I measure over a padded bra! Anything more would be a bonus, main point is not to put on weight.

Plan: Taken Microgynon BCP for 1 month to check for any adverse effect (have taken it before with no probs), started Wonderup 1 week ago, intend to continue on WU alone for 1 month to check for side effects before introducing nettles and borage oil. Trying to eat more protein and doing Joey Atlas Hip and Thigh Makeover Workout (toning only, no cardio). Have also ordered Brava but not using it yet - I know it's not scientific to try NBE and Brava together but I'm impatient!

**Any comments welcome on this board**

Just to note that long sessions with high suction did just about result in touching ends of XL domes with both nipples but gave me a few pimples, although this may have been started by waxing chest hair. Sternum is puffy with avengence today which I suppose is fair after the hours I've been putting in (100 hours in 4 sessions!). Was reasonable 32C in non-padded bra after domes off for 12 hours, 34C only slightly wrinkled. God I hope I can keep it, inshaAllah.

Interesting to remember the Brava coach said that you start to maintain swelling after 8-10 weeks.

Boobs didn't look super-impressive as used to DDs and with swollen sternum not much cleavage. Also have to remember that swelling probably drains slower after a super-session. Obviously natural boobs are kind of bean bag shaped not football shaped so again look smaller but not too bad with a bra...long term plan may include Ripplu bra after measurements stabilise.
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Unread postSep 05, 2007#19

My weight has always been up and down as I have a very bad diet but luckily can lose weight very easily when I try. At my fattest my boobs are almost respectable - full 34A, but have gone from 135lbs to 120lbs and lost a lot on top. My aim is to balance my upper and lower body to minimise my pear shape. I'm 25, never been pregnant, don't drink / smoke, don't like coffee, don't have many fizzy drinks, strict veggie but don't like many vegetables so have a high carb intake from potatoes and pasta, probably androgen dominant. Had bad skin since age 22 but went back on the pill recently and that fixed it in 6 weeks (microgynon 30). Intend to get a blood test for hormone levels in the next few weeks.

Stats:

Height 5'1
Weight 120lbs
Hips 36
Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 31
Bust bending 32.5

Would like to be 33+ around boobs as that is what I measure over a padded bra! Anything more would be a bonus, main point is not to put on weight.

Plan: Taken Microgynon BCP for 1 month to check for any adverse effect (have taken it before with no probs), started Wonderup 1 week ago, intend to continue on WU alone for 1 month to check for side effects before introducing nettles and borage oil. Trying to eat more protein and doing Joey Atlas Hip and Thigh Makeover Workout (toning only, no cardio). Have also ordered Brava but not using it yet - I know it's not scientific to try NBE and Brava together but I'm impatient!

**Any comments welcome on this board**

Still having skin trouble so only short hours this week. What started out as a few spots is now a rash at the tops and bottoms of where the domes sit. The midline’s getting a bit better and the actual spots are gone. Have tried various things I think witch hazel followed by zinc cream is probably second best to just binning the domes. Will continue with short hours and try to go topless or at least open shirt at home to get some fresh air.

Brava hours this week:

26.75 (over 2 days with no break)/13/15/12.25/12/12.75
Total: 91.75, Average: 13.11
Total so far: 967, Average: 15.35

Bust measurement before domes: 33.5-34 (even after 15 hours!)

No more swelling than previous, less with shorter sessions and less suction, but seem to be maintaining more. Also have to say that after a short session last night they were a really nice shape and size this morning, round full C. The DDs look fake and a bit strange but obviously better than AA! My target bras are non padded 34B, non padded 32C that I used to wear with silicone pads and non padded 34C (optimism!). The 34B is full, 32C almost full and another inch would possibly do the 34C. Full looking swelling measuring 34 filled it very nicely. Hoping and praying.

Came off WU for stall test on Saturday or Sunday, boobs were feeling tingly before and still tingly but had a few aches today. Hope this means something.

Diagnosed with PCO, awaiting hormone test after which doctor wants to start me on metformin (hope I don’t get sick) then the next month start dianette.

Need a telling off RE borage oil, water drinking and exercises – really must try harder. Next week’s main target is to get the rash sorted. Also once I’ve done the hormone test I can go back to WU probably start at 3 tabs daily and will start the metformin. May also buy blood sugar self test.
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Unread postSep 06, 2007#20

My weight has always been up and down as I have a very bad diet but luckily can lose weight very easily when I try. At my fattest my boobs are almost respectable - full 34A, but have gone from 135lbs to 120lbs and lost a lot on top. My aim is to balance my upper and lower body to minimise my pear shape. I'm 25, never been pregnant, don't drink / smoke, don't like coffee, don't have many fizzy drinks, strict veggie but don't like many vegetables so have a high carb intake from potatoes and pasta, probably androgen dominant. Had bad skin since age 22 but went back on the pill recently and that fixed it in 6 weeks (microgynon 30). Intend to get a blood test for hormone levels in the next few weeks.

Stats:

Height 5'1
Weight 120lbs
Hips 36
Waist 25
Underbust 28
Bust 31
Bust bending 32.5

Would like to be 33+ around boobs as that is what I measure over a padded bra! Anything more would be a bonus, main point is not to put on weight.

Plan: Taken Microgynon BCP for 1 month to check for any adverse effect (have taken it before with no probs), started Wonderup 1 week ago, intend to continue on WU alone for 1 month to check for side effects before introducing nettles and borage oil. Trying to eat more protein and doing Joey Atlas Hip and Thigh Makeover Workout (toning only, no cardio). Have also ordered Brava but not using it yet - I know it's not scientific to try NBE and Brava together but I'm impatient!

**Any comments welcome on this board**

I have to say, I've immensely enjoyed reading your program page! I laughed out loud over your train trips and you had me on the edge of my seat waiting to see how it went with your measurements and seeing if you retain anything. I'm wishing you all the best dear, do please keep us posted as to how things work out!