[elusive_butterfly16]

Yes, i lost a lot of weight but still dealing with stubborn fat in my legs/butt.

I’m in 4th cycle on pm but no results, i dont know where i’m wrong.

The same thing happened to me until I changed my routine. Measure out 330 mg PM (1/8th teaspoon) and buy Japanese placenta tablets from Amazon . Follow mayusakimilks program with those supplements . Also do massage with PM cream and placenta cream . Do AGGRESSIVE  massage and deep tissue massage . As soon as I got aggressive with my breast massage and brought a ton of blood flow is when I saw huge results and felt so sore and heavy . I felt strong growth pains only on the Japanese placenta which I took every single day of cycle .

Hi Butterfly! (Sorry Cely not meaning to hijack!) Did you find any side effects from the placenta? I tried BO awhile back got some gains but got crazy acne that I never have! Wondering if you found that problem with placenta or any side effects in general? Also what placenta products did u use?

Hello bustyprincess ! The only side effect from the Japanese placenta is that my period didn’t start while I was still taking it because it raised my progesterone . So I had to stop taking it on cycle day 27 so my period would start , then once it came I would take it again along with a lower dose PM , and then 330 mg PM when my period stopped through follicular phase. Actually I have literally no acne flare ups since starting placenta but I am also not eating any junk or sugary foods . So far I have taken Maruman placenta on Amazon , and right now I’m taking  Fracora tablets from Amazon since the Maruman was sold out . I only take 2 tablets and not the full dose because it’s a lot of mg ( like 20,000 for Maruman and 11,000 for fracora) and I don’t want to overdose on placenta because Chiyomilk only got like 180 mg from whitex.

Btw I did find whitex online but it’s like 96$ For only a month supply .

Thanks for the reply!! So placenta increases progesterone only? Im already on a high dose of bio identical progesterone so maybe it wouldnt benefit me  " alt="" title="">

Hey busty. Yes , the main hormone is the placenta is progesterone and growth hormones. The main hormone that a women produces when pregnant is progesterone. And the placenta only develops during pregnancy . Even though you are taking progesterone (bio-identical) placenta has important growth hormones to make the body go through a second puberty . So yea Cely, placenta seems like it really is the hack . But it has to be the Japanese placenta . The first month of my NBE I took sheep placenta and I saw nothing , no growth pains , no soreness . It was only after following and using Chiyomilk and mayusakimilk supplements and routine that I am now growing . Also creams do make a difference too! First half use PM cream , second have use placenta cream or mix bovine ovary capsules in a non estrogen cream in the Second half of cycle .  Don’t forget to rub it in nipples . The pains were even stronger when I put those creams on my boobs . I open a pm capsule and mix it myself . They also sell Japanese placenta creams on Amazon ( I use Kikumasamune lotion in the tub, pink bottle ) or if you can’t find on Amazon in Germany then you will have to buy these products from Japan . Darn that sucks though .. did you have to have a second address to get them shipped to Germany ? How does that work ? I only ordered from Amazon . Pure medical Tokyo website has most of the products Chiyomilk used but it’s sooooo expensive ugh .. oh also ! Are you taking collagen cely ?? Don’t skip that part ! Instead of buying placenta tablets and collagen separate , you can buy a packet on placenta and collagen mixed in a pack that your pour in water and mix . They are flavored and yes they are also Japanese . I use everything Japanese now ? because they are working !

Stay consistent with massage NO BREAKS ! 2 times a day 10 mins each ! Fat brushing and deep tissue massage . Work out and night , don’t eat a big meal after 7 pm , and sleep before 11pm to also increase growth hormone . Oh also I drink fenugreek water in first half of cycle every night . Fenugreek makes your boob receptors more sensitive . Speaking of night - take PM and all other supps and night because Chiyomilk did and it seems to work idk why though . It’s working for me .