[starry12345]

Hi All,

I would like to restart my BO program 

Im currently on my second inactive pill of Yaz (birth control).
During my inactive pill days (only 4 days for YAZ), i take two DIM plus to get rid all excess estrogen.


im planning to take 1000mg of BO a day. i tried taking 1500mg, and sometimes it gives me sore ovary!! Does anyone have the same experience ?

other supplement 
-MK677 20mg , i tried taking 25mg but it gives me legs muscle soreness
-Multivitamin 
-Whey protein 
-Colostrum - for overall health and guts 
-GABA 1500mg at night 

my questions is, I have been on NBE for so long, but I have only experience breast pain, tingling for one or two times. A lot of people who grows experience growing pains, especially for BO. So i wonder if growing pain a must for breast growth ?

Hi Laurel12345,

Your program looks great, do you plan take the pituitary? 
Two years ago, when I started my BO program, I didn't feel any pain in my ovaries, but this time when I took the 6 pills doses (3 AM, 3 PM) I felt an ovarian pain, so now I'm with 5 but planning to increase te to six next month and see if it happen again.

I saw you plan to take MK677 and GABA, I've never take the MK677 and I'd like to hear how does it work, what I used two years ago, was HGH surge from Natural Sources and I'm gonna add it again to see if it makes difference in my current routine.

Happy growing!

I do not plan to take pituitary, because I am afraid it will mess up my body. 

when I take 6 pills, my ovary got really sore and painful, but I guess at least it's working on me?

MK677 can significantly increase your igf1, but it's pricy and a lot of fake product out there. I'm currently using Chemyo. I still don't feel it is helping my growth, but I experience its side effect (muscle soreness) when I take 25mg. I think some of us in the forum is taking it too

May I know if you take BO everyday ? do u take a rest week?

Hi Dboobies, 

Now i think about it, it doesnt make sense to take pituitary while im on BCP. The function of pituitary is to produce FSH and LH.
However, BCP works by inhibiting the secretion of FSH and LH (i.e. prevent ovulation). I found below picture for hormone level with BCP online, but im not sure if its 100% correct.
https://www.metabolance.com/reclaiming-y...trol-asap/


From Wiki
"Progestogen negative feedback decreases the pulse frequency of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) release by the hypothalamus, which decreases the secretion of follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) and greatly decreases the secretion of luteinizing hormone (LH) by the anterior pituitary. Decreased levels of FSH inhibit follicular development, preventing an increase in estradiol levels. Progestogen negative feedback and the lack of estrogen positive feedback on LH secretion prevent a mid-cycle LH surge. Inhibition of follicular development and the absence of an LH surge prevent ovulation.[99][100][101]"


Actually, i dont even sure if it make sense to take BO while im on BCP. Before i can figure it out, we have to well understand the mechanism of BO. However, i cant find much information about it. Hopefully someone can shade some light on it