[EllaC]

that's cause Lotus is the great guru of research

I had taken FG for a while and I found it did nothing for me, not so much as a twinge or even smelling like maple syrup so I discontinued that herb.

You need at least one teaspoon a day of ground fenugreek seeds, or four fenugreek supplement capsules and half a teaspoon of saw palmetto in order to see positive and “impressive” results.

Saw palmetto is ineffective for breast growth---read our archives, also, read the study (in this thread) on the dosage, 600 mg proved to be effective in raising estradiol.  I'd make sure it was a minimum of 50% saponins, thus the lower dosage. Reishi extract by far is the best anti-androgen for NBE.....it blocks type I and II 5 alpha reductase enzyme. It's effective for hrt too (a recent blood test proved it).

Oh wow really. So fenugreek raises estradiol and SP raises estradiol?.....