[EllaC]

I'm still thinking about adding maca into my program. I think now my estrogen might be lowering enough to add something else.
But I'm still not sure about the research on that. Some studies say there are no significant differences in estrogen, testosterone, lh, or fsh but some of these studies were done on men and generally with a small study size:
https://examine.com/supplements/Maca/

I do think when I took maca in the past that I felt balanced even while taking it with PM but I dont remember if I had significant growth on it. I'll have to go back through my old programs and see. And possibly might need to take a different type of maca and in a larger dose. There were a few studies in there under 7.2 Estrogen in the scientific research section of that site that said higher doses showed some estrogenic activity while lower doses did not.

I also thought it was interesting that while there were minor results of decreasing depression (although the study was tested on men), there were no significant changes in PROLACTIN. But again.. these were done on men so maybe women experience different results?

Go have a read through missboobshirts maca thread. There's info on there, plus lotus put up some links too re sex hormones and maca. I was worried too BELIEVE ME,,

That sucks re vitex... Cause my dosage is too high too then. For what it's worth I too hear lower doses around 100 can increase and more can decrease.
Actually you should find an answer here, il do a quick look , OK Google "pubmed vitex prolactin" - there's lots of info on there.
I got stuff to do but will have a look later, but there's plenty of links under there.
I would think however.. irresoective of vitex's actions on prolactin the action of balancing e and p to their normal levels would aid in breast health/size cause when I researched I found NOTHING online saying chaste berry decreases breast size, it was more the opposite. I get ya though.

Re my test, it's an overgrowth of bad bacteria in the small intestine, caused by poor diet, antibiotics and too much sugar. It produces horrid gases/fermentation of food in a bad way, high chance I have leaky gut too. But.. It's manageable with antifungals, diet restrictions and of course little to no booze. I'm soo ok with that though cause now I have an answer finally. My drinking habit finally bit me in the backside.

Time To live better now