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Fenugreek--What it does to your body (and your weight)
April 17 2009 at 2:13 AM Sandra (Login SandraDD)
Ok girls, heres some infor on FG & Weight Control. I did some research cuz nobody answered my questions regarding this in my post seeking advice...so I did some research and thought this might help everyone to understand what is going on in our bodies when taking FG (& SP, which has already been posted).
In various areas of North Africa the seeds (ground into a paste) were traditionally eaten by women to gain weight, in combination with sugar and olive oil. The seeds are still used for weight gain in Libya and other areas.
So Fenugreek definitely helps weight gain. Fenugreek has a history for aiding weight gain in people with poor digestion & poor appetite, but it doesnt directly cause weight gain. But Why??
I had a few questions about FG.
Why does it help NBE?
Why does it cause some but not others weight gain? Is it the plant itself or is it what it does to our body?
And why in some places it is used to help weight loss?
This is what I found about FG:
1. It improves digestion & contains diosgenin, a phytoestrogen compound that seems to mimic the effects of the hormone estrogen.
Thats why its good for NBE.
2. (I think this is the key to why some people gain weight on FG.)
It stimulates insulin secretion.
A surge of insulin does 2 things:
-- It tells our body to store fat
-- It lower our blood sugar level, which can make you feel tired & think you are hungry
~~~~~~~~~The biology behind this~~~~~~~~~
It contains 4 hydroxyisoleucine that makes your blood sugar level drop and is often used to treat diabetic people.
During digestion, the body breaks down carbohydrates into various sugar molecules. One of these molecules, glucose, is mainly controlled by the hormones insulin and glucagon that are released from the pancreas. When blood glucose levels are high after a meal--about 120 mg/dL, or milligrams of glucose per deciliter of blood--glucose is absorbed directly into the bloodstream. The liver accepts extra sugar and stores it in the form of glycogen. Beta cells in the pancreas release insulin, which acts as a key to unlock the body's cells and allow glucose in. This, in turn, lowers the blood-sugar level to the normal range of about 60 mg/dL. If the pancreas releases too much insulin, however, even more glucose enters your cells and your liver can't release glucose into your bloodstream. The result is low blood sugar, defined as a level below 45 mg/dL.
(http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KGB/is_2_4/ai_n6006077/)
Insulin: The greater concern with the insulin surge is not that it tells our body to start storing fat. Whatever we eat and don't burn up eventually gets turned into fat anyway.
The greater concern is that the insulin surge causes too much blood sugar to be transported out of our blood and this results in our blood sugar and insulin levels dropping below normal. This leaves us feeling tired and hungry and wanting to eat more. The unfortunate result of this scenario is that it makes us want to eat something else with a high sugar content. When we do, we start the cycle all over again.
(http://www.caloriesperhour.com/tutorial_sugar.php)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So if you have low blood sugar (many girls are slightly hypoglycemicprone to low blood sugar), this is where the problem starts!!
Low blood sugar level occurs when blood level of glucose (a sugar molecule that acts as a major energy source for the body) drop too low to fuel your activity.
!!! Since many symptoms of hypoglycemia are similar to the feeling of hunger, some women confuse being hypoglycemic with being hungry. !!!
I am prone to low blood sugar level and I know it makes me feel hungry, especially around 3-4pm.
Some ideas for you if you are taking FG & dont want to gain weight from it:
-Never skip a meal, especially breakfast.
-Plan your snacks & be prepared for that energy drop. I usually do raisins or fruits in the afternoon when I feel hungry. I also take grapeseed supplement, royal jelly & vitamin B in the afternoon, because they both give me energy so I wont feel tired. I loooove it.
-High fibre snacks and meals can help regulate your blood sugar level. The fibre slows down glucose absorption and keeps your blood sugar level more consistent. (So eating apples & oranges are much better than drinking apple & orange juice)
Other sites you can browse:
http://www.caloriesperhour.com/tutorial_sugar.php
http://www.bodyactive-online.co.uk/supplements/ingredients/fenugreek.asp
So my decision is that I'm gonna give FG & SP a try. I was worried about gaining weight from them, but I think as long as I keep a balanced diet and watch what my consume & how my body feels I'll be ok.
Have an awesome boobie day!
Sandra
(Login SandraDD)
oh one question
April 17 2009, 2:16 AM
One question....
For those who take the Greenbush FG, does it make you smell like Fenugreek? I remember reading somewhere that taking FG will start to make you smell like FG... what's your experience with it?
Alana
(Login lani_hopes4DDs)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Fenugreek--What it does to your body (and your weight)
April 17 2009, 2:56 PM
Thanks for the great info, sandra.
Yes, taking FG eventually leads to this weird, maple-y body smell. For me, it's pretty mild, and I can't really smell it after I put on deodorant.
Moon
(Login -Moon-)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Fenugreek--What it does to your body (and your weight)
April 17 2009, 3:46 PM
From all the reports I heard I got the impression that FG doesn't usually cause a problematic drop of blood shuggar - only in a minority of individuals at which this manifests as headacke caused by FG. It's possible and makes sense tho that a borderline effect on blood shugar would cause hunger and weight gain. However many individuals report no effects. It may be tho that many NBEers are too skinny and wellcome any potential apetite and weight gain effects.
Sandra
(Login SandraDD)
Re: Fenugreek--What it does to your body (and your weight)
April 17 2009, 5:00 PM
Alana, thanks for sharing, I think I can deal with that. I'm gonna give FG a try.
Moon, yea I think only ppl who are already prone to low blood sugar level will experience that. I think you are very right about many girls being too skinny..
I'm gonna give the Greenbush Enhancement combo a try. Thanks girls for being helpful!
Veronica
(Login Veronia)
Re: Fenugreek--What it does to your body (and your weight)
April 17 2009, 6:04 PM
I think Moon has hit the nail on the head. In most people fenugreek does not cause a problematic drop of blood sugar. But for a minority of people they do need to watch out, as if you have low blood pressure to start with you may find an a adverse effect with fenugreek.
Snowflake
(Login GoldSnowflake)
EVE MEMBERS
Re: Fenugreek--What it does to your body (and your weight)
April 17 2009, 6:44 PM
Actually in looking for things to help with weight loss, I come across products with fenugreek in them. Because it helps lower blood sugar levels, it also aids in weight loss. But in the same sense it helps diebetics manage their diebetes because it helps regulate glucose levels. Cinnomin has the same effect, and you can buy cinnominn capsules to regulate glucose levels
April 17 2009 at 2:13 AM Sandra (Login SandraDD)
Ok girls, heres some infor on FG & Weight Control. I did some research cuz nobody answered my questions regarding this in my post seeking advice...so I did some research and thought this might help everyone to understand what is going on in our bodies when taking FG (& SP, which has already been posted).
In various areas of North Africa the seeds (ground into a paste) were traditionally eaten by women to gain weight, in combination with sugar and olive oil. The seeds are still used for weight gain in Libya and other areas.
So Fenugreek definitely helps weight gain. Fenugreek has a history for aiding weight gain in people with poor digestion & poor appetite, but it doesnt directly cause weight gain. But Why??
I had a few questions about FG.
Why does it help NBE?
Why does it cause some but not others weight gain? Is it the plant itself or is it what it does to our body?
And why in some places it is used to help weight loss?
This is what I found about FG:
1. It improves digestion & contains diosgenin, a phytoestrogen compound that seems to mimic the effects of the hormone estrogen.
Thats why its good for NBE.
2. (I think this is the key to why some people gain weight on FG.)
It stimulates insulin secretion.
A surge of insulin does 2 things:
-- It tells our body to store fat
-- It lower our blood sugar level, which can make you feel tired & think you are hungry
~~~~~~~~~The biology behind this~~~~~~~~~
It contains 4 hydroxyisoleucine that makes your blood sugar level drop and is often used to treat diabetic people.
During digestion, the body breaks down carbohydrates into various sugar molecules. One of these molecules, glucose, is mainly controlled by the hormones insulin and glucagon that are released from the pancreas. When blood glucose levels are high after a meal--about 120 mg/dL, or milligrams of glucose per deciliter of blood--glucose is absorbed directly into the bloodstream. The liver accepts extra sugar and stores it in the form of glycogen. Beta cells in the pancreas release insulin, which acts as a key to unlock the body's cells and allow glucose in. This, in turn, lowers the blood-sugar level to the normal range of about 60 mg/dL. If the pancreas releases too much insulin, however, even more glucose enters your cells and your liver can't release glucose into your bloodstream. The result is low blood sugar, defined as a level below 45 mg/dL.
(http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KGB/is_2_4/ai_n6006077/)
Insulin: The greater concern with the insulin surge is not that it tells our body to start storing fat. Whatever we eat and don't burn up eventually gets turned into fat anyway.
The greater concern is that the insulin surge causes too much blood sugar to be transported out of our blood and this results in our blood sugar and insulin levels dropping below normal. This leaves us feeling tired and hungry and wanting to eat more. The unfortunate result of this scenario is that it makes us want to eat something else with a high sugar content. When we do, we start the cycle all over again.
(http://www.caloriesperhour.com/tutorial_sugar.php)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So if you have low blood sugar (many girls are slightly hypoglycemicprone to low blood sugar), this is where the problem starts!!
Low blood sugar level occurs when blood level of glucose (a sugar molecule that acts as a major energy source for the body) drop too low to fuel your activity.
!!! Since many symptoms of hypoglycemia are similar to the feeling of hunger, some women confuse being hypoglycemic with being hungry. !!!
I am prone to low blood sugar level and I know it makes me feel hungry, especially around 3-4pm.
Some ideas for you if you are taking FG & dont want to gain weight from it:
-Never skip a meal, especially breakfast.
-Plan your snacks & be prepared for that energy drop. I usually do raisins or fruits in the afternoon when I feel hungry. I also take grapeseed supplement, royal jelly & vitamin B in the afternoon, because they both give me energy so I wont feel tired. I loooove it.
-High fibre snacks and meals can help regulate your blood sugar level. The fibre slows down glucose absorption and keeps your blood sugar level more consistent. (So eating apples & oranges are much better than drinking apple & orange juice)
Other sites you can browse:
http://www.caloriesperhour.com/tutorial_sugar.php
http://www.bodyactive-online.co.uk/supplements/ingredients/fenugreek.asp
So my decision is that I'm gonna give FG & SP a try. I was worried about gaining weight from them, but I think as long as I keep a balanced diet and watch what my consume & how my body feels I'll be ok.
Have an awesome boobie day!
Sandra
(Login SandraDD)
oh one question
April 17 2009, 2:16 AM
One question....
For those who take the Greenbush FG, does it make you smell like Fenugreek? I remember reading somewhere that taking FG will start to make you smell like FG... what's your experience with it?
Alana
(Login lani_hopes4DDs)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Fenugreek--What it does to your body (and your weight)
April 17 2009, 2:56 PM
Thanks for the great info, sandra.
Yes, taking FG eventually leads to this weird, maple-y body smell. For me, it's pretty mild, and I can't really smell it after I put on deodorant.
Moon
(Login -Moon-)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Fenugreek--What it does to your body (and your weight)
April 17 2009, 3:46 PM
From all the reports I heard I got the impression that FG doesn't usually cause a problematic drop of blood shuggar - only in a minority of individuals at which this manifests as headacke caused by FG. It's possible and makes sense tho that a borderline effect on blood shugar would cause hunger and weight gain. However many individuals report no effects. It may be tho that many NBEers are too skinny and wellcome any potential apetite and weight gain effects.
Sandra
(Login SandraDD)
Re: Fenugreek--What it does to your body (and your weight)
April 17 2009, 5:00 PM
Alana, thanks for sharing, I think I can deal with that. I'm gonna give FG a try.
Moon, yea I think only ppl who are already prone to low blood sugar level will experience that. I think you are very right about many girls being too skinny..
I'm gonna give the Greenbush Enhancement combo a try. Thanks girls for being helpful!
Veronica
(Login Veronia)
Re: Fenugreek--What it does to your body (and your weight)
April 17 2009, 6:04 PM
I think Moon has hit the nail on the head. In most people fenugreek does not cause a problematic drop of blood sugar. But for a minority of people they do need to watch out, as if you have low blood pressure to start with you may find an a adverse effect with fenugreek.
Snowflake
(Login GoldSnowflake)
EVE MEMBERS
Re: Fenugreek--What it does to your body (and your weight)
April 17 2009, 6:44 PM
Actually in looking for things to help with weight loss, I come across products with fenugreek in them. Because it helps lower blood sugar levels, it also aids in weight loss. But in the same sense it helps diebetics manage their diebetes because it helps regulate glucose levels. Cinnomin has the same effect, and you can buy cinnominn capsules to regulate glucose levels