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Surf: Help with massage please
January 8 2007 at 5:11 PM Ann5 (Login Ann5)
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Hello Surf,
I wanted to ask if you could advise me how do you do your massages. Do you do it like tiger lily's massage? I'd appreciate it, thanks.
Surf
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 8 2007, 7:20 PM
Ok - I'm not sure how TigerLilly does her massage but here goes my current massage routine:
The following is from my personal page -
I have been massaging in the am with Palmer's Cocoa Butter Formula with Vitamin E Bust Firming Massage Cream. I have been massaging in the pm with 2 EPO capsules, 1 pumpkin seed oil capsule broken open, 1 safflower seed oil capsule broken open and vitamine E (400 iu). After my massage I rub 100% pure cocoa butter (that I have melted down) all over my chest area including under my arms. Sometimes I use 100% pure shea butter instead of the cocoa butter (I don't have to melt it down, so it's easier than the cocoa butter).
I then use heat for about 15 minutes. I use a bag that has corn in it that I pop in the microwave to heat. It is an almost moist kind of heat, but dry to the touch. The heat is low (approx 110 degrees).
Now I'll try to explain the way I massage -
After putting all the EPO, oils and vitamine E on my breasts (and sometimes I'll add in fenugreek extract at night), I put the palms of my hands over my nipples (right hand on right boob, left hand on left boob) and do 200 rotations (clockwise on my boobies). Then I put my right hand on my left boob and left hand on my right boob and do the same rotation movement for 100 more rotations. When I do these, I try to push some of the skin from under my arms towards my boobs. Then I use my knuckles (right hand on right boob, left hand on left boob) starting right below my nipples and do small rotations with my knuckles and do this motion in a clockwise roation around my boobs (like doing small circles in a circular motion around my boobs). I do this about 3 times around my boobs. Then I recently started massaging under my arms. I use my knuckles of my right hand and massage under my left arm. I go from my arm pit all the way down even with the bottom of my boob (like a 7 inch path up and down under my arm). I do this 25 times under each arm. Geez, I hope this makes sense. Then I put the melted cocoa butter all over my breasts and under my arms. I lather as much on as possible, above and below my breasts too. Then I crawl into bed and do the heat (no more than 110 degrees for about 15 minutes), then fall asleep.
I really feel like massaging is one of THE MOST IMPORTANT parts of NBE. Especially for those with poor circulation (which I believe I do, as my hands and feet are always cold). I feel like when I slack with my massages, I don't grow as much.
Since starting with the under the arm massage part of my routine, I've had very sore breasts and feel fuller. In fact, I think I finally will go and buy a new bra this week. I feel like I'm busting out of this one.
I hope this helps!
Gigando growing boobie blessing to all the boobie goddesses out there!!!
Ann5
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 8 2007, 7:57 PM
Thank you so much. I'm off to practice.
Surf
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 12:21 AM
I made a mistake in my previous posting!!! At one point I said "clockwise". I should have said "clockwise for my right breast and counter-clockwise for my left breast". Ugh! Sorry!
Katrina
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To Surf...
January 9 2007, 12:39 AM
Surf, are you trying to decrease your breast size???? Because as far as I am concerned I believe that you should rotate your right breast counter-clock wie and your left breast clock-wise. At least that is what I asked Chelle Choi and that's what she said too. Lucille's book is wrong, I believe on her explanation because her pics don't match her directions.
Anyone else noticed this too?
Ann5
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 12:46 AM
Now I'm confused......
Sissy
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 12:53 AM
Are the arrows on lisa's massage page in the main menu correct? I realized last night I have been going in the wrong direction with my rotations if they are. I wasn't going to tell you all that, but oh well, I'm a knucklehead. I don't understand how I made that mistake, back in November I read all about the massages. So while taking all this stuff to grow breast, I have been massaging them away?
Tarepanda
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 12:54 AM
If you go to lisa's massage page (see main forum) you can see the directions drawn on a picture. i think that one is correct, so first inwards, down and then up (for both breasts)
Donna
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 1:03 AM
I'm with you Katrina, I asked a little while ago also which way to go and Chelle replied, left breast clockwise and right breast anti-clockwise. Seems to be working as they are fuller now.
Katrina
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The Chi Massage...
January 9 2007, 3:55 AM
I asked Lucille if she would consider changing her book so her description would match the pictures because they are confusing and contradicting, and the only reply I got back was that I was "getting confused." She never did change the description even though if anyone looks at those pictures I am pretty sure they would say that the right breast is rotating counter and the left is going clock-wise.
At lease I hope we are all right and her pictures are not just drawn wrong! But I know she did get the idea from the Chi Massage from Rieki Stein's book called Rieki Healing. I was thinking about ordering the book to see since she said the massage is explained more in depth in that book, but more confusing also. I don't know. Sometimes I think just in case I should do just regular massage with my finger tips in every direction just to be safe
jellyboobs
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 8:55 AM
well whatever surfs done it sure hasnt hurt her growth !!!!! love jelly...
Surf
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 3:10 PM
Katrina - Look at Lisa's Massage page. I do it the same way.
I shows that you should massage your right breast clockwise and your left breast counter-clockwise.
You are moving from the outside of your breast (right breast, start at 9:00), the up (right breast go the 12:00), then towards the middle (right breast go to 3:00), then down (right breast go to 6:00), then back to the outside (right breast 9:00 again). For me, this means massaging the right breast in a clockwise motion. I don't know how else to explain it.
I hope this helps.
Jen
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 3:21 PM
Surf - I massage the direction that you describe. I also feel massage is the most important part of a routine. I have had growth and have never felt my growth has been hindered by massage. Oviously you have had awesome growth, so I don't think there is anything here to question. Thanks for sharing your techniques. They are always helpful - and inspiring!
Ann5
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 4:51 PM
Yes, it's clear. Thank you for your time Surf.
Katrina
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Oh....
January 9 2007, 11:01 PM
I guess we are referring to different massages. I was talking about the Chi Massage in which put your right hand on right breast and left hand on left breast, with fingers spreading apart, and then rotate your breasts in inward rotating circles moving the hold hand (right breast going counter and left breast going clock-wise). This massage sounds different from the one's you all are talking about.
--> <--
/ \ / \
\ / \ /
Imagine the arrows are your thumbs and they are going inwards as you rotate them doing the chi massage.
Katrina
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Found it...
January 9 2007, 11:13 PM
I found Lisa's massage, but it still appears to me the that the arrow on the right breast is going anti-clock-wise.... Does anybody else see it this way to or am I just cross sided?
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Surf
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 10 2007, 1:04 AM
Katrina - When I say the right breast, I mean MY right breast. Not the right breast of a picture (which would in fact be the left breast of that person). It may be confusing because you're looking at Lisa's massage page and it's a picture. When you're looking at a picture, you might be thinking that the right breast is the breast on the right-hand side of the picture. However, that's not what I'm talking about. When referring to right or left, I mean MY right or left. I hope this helps to explain what I mean.
Surf
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 10 2007, 1:17 AM
Katrina - Another thing that might be helpful is to imagine a clock on each of your breasts. When I was trying to explain that you should start at 9:00 with YOUR right breast (not a picture of someone).
For YOUR right breast, 9:00 would be near your arm, 12:00 would be at the top, 3:00 would be between your breasts, and 6:00 would be at the bottom = clockwise.
For YOUR left breast, 3:00 would be near your arm, 12:00 would be at the top, 9:00 would be between your breasts, and 6:00 would be at the bottom = counter-clockwise.
I hope this helps to explain what I mean. Best wishes!
Jemima
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Oops..
January 11 2007, 4:30 PM
Yes it's true, Lucille's chi massage or breast massage is actually a rieki massage, from Rieki Stein's book called Rieki Healing.
January 8 2007 at 5:11 PM Ann5 (Login Ann5)
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Hello Surf,
I wanted to ask if you could advise me how do you do your massages. Do you do it like tiger lily's massage? I'd appreciate it, thanks.
Surf
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 8 2007, 7:20 PM
Ok - I'm not sure how TigerLilly does her massage but here goes my current massage routine:
The following is from my personal page -
I have been massaging in the am with Palmer's Cocoa Butter Formula with Vitamin E Bust Firming Massage Cream. I have been massaging in the pm with 2 EPO capsules, 1 pumpkin seed oil capsule broken open, 1 safflower seed oil capsule broken open and vitamine E (400 iu). After my massage I rub 100% pure cocoa butter (that I have melted down) all over my chest area including under my arms. Sometimes I use 100% pure shea butter instead of the cocoa butter (I don't have to melt it down, so it's easier than the cocoa butter).
I then use heat for about 15 minutes. I use a bag that has corn in it that I pop in the microwave to heat. It is an almost moist kind of heat, but dry to the touch. The heat is low (approx 110 degrees).
Now I'll try to explain the way I massage -
After putting all the EPO, oils and vitamine E on my breasts (and sometimes I'll add in fenugreek extract at night), I put the palms of my hands over my nipples (right hand on right boob, left hand on left boob) and do 200 rotations (clockwise on my boobies). Then I put my right hand on my left boob and left hand on my right boob and do the same rotation movement for 100 more rotations. When I do these, I try to push some of the skin from under my arms towards my boobs. Then I use my knuckles (right hand on right boob, left hand on left boob) starting right below my nipples and do small rotations with my knuckles and do this motion in a clockwise roation around my boobs (like doing small circles in a circular motion around my boobs). I do this about 3 times around my boobs. Then I recently started massaging under my arms. I use my knuckles of my right hand and massage under my left arm. I go from my arm pit all the way down even with the bottom of my boob (like a 7 inch path up and down under my arm). I do this 25 times under each arm. Geez, I hope this makes sense. Then I put the melted cocoa butter all over my breasts and under my arms. I lather as much on as possible, above and below my breasts too. Then I crawl into bed and do the heat (no more than 110 degrees for about 15 minutes), then fall asleep.
I really feel like massaging is one of THE MOST IMPORTANT parts of NBE. Especially for those with poor circulation (which I believe I do, as my hands and feet are always cold). I feel like when I slack with my massages, I don't grow as much.
Since starting with the under the arm massage part of my routine, I've had very sore breasts and feel fuller. In fact, I think I finally will go and buy a new bra this week. I feel like I'm busting out of this one.
I hope this helps!
Gigando growing boobie blessing to all the boobie goddesses out there!!!
Ann5
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 8 2007, 7:57 PM
Thank you so much. I'm off to practice.
Surf
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 12:21 AM
I made a mistake in my previous posting!!! At one point I said "clockwise". I should have said "clockwise for my right breast and counter-clockwise for my left breast". Ugh! Sorry!
Katrina
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SENIOR MEMBER
To Surf...
January 9 2007, 12:39 AM
Surf, are you trying to decrease your breast size???? Because as far as I am concerned I believe that you should rotate your right breast counter-clock wie and your left breast clock-wise. At least that is what I asked Chelle Choi and that's what she said too. Lucille's book is wrong, I believe on her explanation because her pics don't match her directions.
Anyone else noticed this too?
Ann5
(Login Ann5)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 12:46 AM
Now I'm confused......
Sissy
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 12:53 AM
Are the arrows on lisa's massage page in the main menu correct? I realized last night I have been going in the wrong direction with my rotations if they are. I wasn't going to tell you all that, but oh well, I'm a knucklehead. I don't understand how I made that mistake, back in November I read all about the massages. So while taking all this stuff to grow breast, I have been massaging them away?
Tarepanda
(Login tarepanda23)
Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 12:54 AM
If you go to lisa's massage page (see main forum) you can see the directions drawn on a picture. i think that one is correct, so first inwards, down and then up (for both breasts)
Donna
(Login sadkow)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 1:03 AM
I'm with you Katrina, I asked a little while ago also which way to go and Chelle replied, left breast clockwise and right breast anti-clockwise. Seems to be working as they are fuller now.
Katrina
(Login mountainkat)
SENIOR MEMBER
The Chi Massage...
January 9 2007, 3:55 AM
I asked Lucille if she would consider changing her book so her description would match the pictures because they are confusing and contradicting, and the only reply I got back was that I was "getting confused." She never did change the description even though if anyone looks at those pictures I am pretty sure they would say that the right breast is rotating counter and the left is going clock-wise.
At lease I hope we are all right and her pictures are not just drawn wrong! But I know she did get the idea from the Chi Massage from Rieki Stein's book called Rieki Healing. I was thinking about ordering the book to see since she said the massage is explained more in depth in that book, but more confusing also. I don't know. Sometimes I think just in case I should do just regular massage with my finger tips in every direction just to be safe
jellyboobs
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 8:55 AM
well whatever surfs done it sure hasnt hurt her growth !!!!! love jelly...
Surf
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 3:10 PM
Katrina - Look at Lisa's Massage page. I do it the same way.
I shows that you should massage your right breast clockwise and your left breast counter-clockwise.
You are moving from the outside of your breast (right breast, start at 9:00), the up (right breast go the 12:00), then towards the middle (right breast go to 3:00), then down (right breast go to 6:00), then back to the outside (right breast 9:00 again). For me, this means massaging the right breast in a clockwise motion. I don't know how else to explain it.
I hope this helps.
Jen
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EVE MEMBERS
Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 3:21 PM
Surf - I massage the direction that you describe. I also feel massage is the most important part of a routine. I have had growth and have never felt my growth has been hindered by massage. Oviously you have had awesome growth, so I don't think there is anything here to question. Thanks for sharing your techniques. They are always helpful - and inspiring!
Ann5
(Login Ann5)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 4:51 PM
Yes, it's clear. Thank you for your time Surf.
Katrina
(Login mountainkat)
SENIOR MEMBER
Oh....
January 9 2007, 11:01 PM
I guess we are referring to different massages. I was talking about the Chi Massage in which put your right hand on right breast and left hand on left breast, with fingers spreading apart, and then rotate your breasts in inward rotating circles moving the hold hand (right breast going counter and left breast going clock-wise). This massage sounds different from the one's you all are talking about.
--> <--
/ \ / \
\ / \ /
Imagine the arrows are your thumbs and they are going inwards as you rotate them doing the chi massage.
Katrina
(Login mountainkat)
SENIOR MEMBER
Found it...
January 9 2007, 11:13 PM
I found Lisa's massage, but it still appears to me the that the arrow on the right breast is going anti-clock-wise.... Does anybody else see it this way to or am I just cross sided?
@@
_
Surf
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 10 2007, 1:04 AM
Katrina - When I say the right breast, I mean MY right breast. Not the right breast of a picture (which would in fact be the left breast of that person). It may be confusing because you're looking at Lisa's massage page and it's a picture. When you're looking at a picture, you might be thinking that the right breast is the breast on the right-hand side of the picture. However, that's not what I'm talking about. When referring to right or left, I mean MY right or left. I hope this helps to explain what I mean.
Surf
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 10 2007, 1:17 AM
Katrina - Another thing that might be helpful is to imagine a clock on each of your breasts. When I was trying to explain that you should start at 9:00 with YOUR right breast (not a picture of someone).
For YOUR right breast, 9:00 would be near your arm, 12:00 would be at the top, 3:00 would be between your breasts, and 6:00 would be at the bottom = clockwise.
For YOUR left breast, 3:00 would be near your arm, 12:00 would be at the top, 9:00 would be between your breasts, and 6:00 would be at the bottom = counter-clockwise.
I hope this helps to explain what I mean. Best wishes!
Jemima
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SENIOR MEMBER
Oops..
January 11 2007, 4:30 PM
Yes it's true, Lucille's chi massage or breast massage is actually a rieki massage, from Rieki Stein's book called Rieki Healing.