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Breast Massage question?????
April 13 2006 at 3:09 PM Snowflake (Login GoldSnowflake)
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Really having trouble typing this morning but here goes. Does it matter which way you massage, clockwise or counter clockwise. having trouble getting right breast to catch up with the left.. But other than that am quite full and very tender. massage aleast twice a day sometimes three. Not massageing larger brest as much as smaller.Thanks any input would be great. PS Sunset dropped the milk thislte all together starting to feel abit more like myself again.
-Moon-
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Re: Breast Massage question?????
April 13 2006, 3:19 PM
I can't really answer, cause I am wondering the same thing, but I have another question - does it matter whether you massage over the clotes, or does it have to be on bare skin?
Snowflake
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This Is embarrassing but----
April 13 2006, 3:33 PM
If I am not wearing a bra,(in the evening when I got my jammis on) watching TV, I find myself massaging myself over my t-shirt, cause the material moves for you so its kinda like using cream. I just have so much fullness I can't stop touching them. I know thats weird. And maybe alot of the fullness will be gone after my period, it will be interesting to see what happens. I would also would like to know if anyone things you can get substancial growth with just massage. So Moon, have you noticed much change since you started massage.
Sunset
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Re: Breast Massage question?????
April 13 2006, 4:10 PM
hmm, lemme see how I can expain this.
If you are standing right in front of a clock, you should move your RIGHT boob the OPPOSITE way of the hands on the clock.
You should move the LEFT boob the SAME way as the hands on the clock.
(gosh I hope that doesnt confuse anyone.)
Ok- Basically you want to massage BOTH boobs so that you are rotating INWARDS like to where the "cleavage" is. Move your hand inwards and up wards.
DO NOT move them outwards-like towards where your arms are. This may cause them to get SMALLER-and NO we dont want that..lol
I hope this helps but if I confused anyone just ask.
And as far as massaging over clothes;well my opinion it would be much better to do it on bare skin using a batter. I think it would help much more and be more effective that way. So I would aim for 2 times a day on the bare skin.
After that if you feel like you want to massage them while lounging around in your jammies-then I guess go for it..it cant hurt.
Snowflake dont be embarrassed it is wonderful to enjoy your fuller boobies!
And I am glad you are feeling well after dropping the Milk thistle. Thats very good! 
~Keep playin those "records" girls! ~
~Best wishes on a growing journey!~
*Sunset*
Helen
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Re: Breast Massage question?????
April 13 2006, 4:12 PM
Hehehe Slowflake, this is great, there's absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about - you are just loving your puppies and this is great!!!
Be careful with massaging without cream though, I know what you mean about the material moving on your skin, it feels it's "sliding", but friction can make your skin dry, so you might need to moisturise it afterwards anyway.
Same thing Moon, you can massage without the cream, but the breast skin is thin and sensitive, so friction with your hands might irritate it, make it dry or even sore - and we want to feel soreness due to growth, not massage friction, right?
Plus, by massaging with a lotion you also "feed" your skin with useful ingredients depending on the butter you use, so massaging doesn't only improve circulation but also helps the skin absorb these ingredients.
As for the "direction" of massage I had the same question myself. Well I cannot say clock-wise or not for both boobies as it would be the opposite for each one, so I would say clocwise for the left and anti-clockwise for the right (imagining you are looking at a clock while massaging). This is another way of describing this "up-" and "inwards" motion Sunset has told us about, I hope I am not wrong or I will be in trouble and a very "bad student"...! If I am wrong, plz Sunset dear, elaborate
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* Keep up the Happy Growing! *
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Love,
Helen x
Helen
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Sunset
April 13 2006, 4:18 PM
Whoops, bad synchronisation, I must have been typing when you posted
This is a relief though as I was not wrong about the clock directions (got a bit stressed there that I was doing it wrong!) hehe
Phewww thanks Sunset! xxx
Sunset
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hahaha Helen
April 13 2006, 4:24 PM
Well I must say you gave EXCELLENT advice..lol
We were typing at the same time-but wow how close our advice was!..hehe thats to cool
You get an "A" for the day! lol.
Snowflake
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Yes, I was Massaging wrong then,,,,,
April 13 2006, 4:26 PM
On my right breast I was massaging counterclockwise, which is actually opposite to the way i massage the left. now I'm getting confused. My right hand massages my left breast clockwaise aand my left hand was massaging counterclockwise on my right breast. So I should be massaging clock wise with my left hand too. Maybe thats why my right boob is smaller. I will pay attention better and see if it helps even out the size. Its one thing to massage at home when watching TV, but I hope I don't start doing it in public. Will have to be careful that does not happen. I am even careful,my husband doesn't see me do it, I would never hear the end of it. How much growth do you guys think is possible with just massage, never come across BE with just massage and any kind of results.
Helen
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Yesss!!!
April 13 2006, 4:30 PM
Oh, thank you Ma'am! Super-glad I have not disappointed you! I will treasure my 'A' on the record playing subject! (yipeee)
This was funny, bless you girl
x x x
Sunset
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YOU ARE DOING IT RIGHT SNOWFALKE!!
April 13 2006, 4:37 PM
You are right. No matter what boob you massage your hand should be going INWARDS to the MIDDLE of your body like where your "cleavage" is. As long as you do that your safe!
Your RIGHT boob=counter-clockwise (opposite the hands of the clock)
Your LEFT boob= Clock wise (the same direction as the hands on the clock)
You are doing it perfect so dont change a thing!!
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Helen, You have cracked me up here so many times. I am so glad you are member here. You are so funny sometimes, and I love it!
And you are giving some very good advice as well to lots of ladies about several topics. Great Job!
And I wish you well on NBE too!
~Keep playin those "records" girls! ~
~Best wishes on a growing journey!~
*Sunset*
Snowflake
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I SOOOOO want to start my fennel,
April 13 2006, 4:43 PM
But at this point in my cycle maybe should start the SP, periods due Thursday. And haven't don the liver, gall blader flush we talked about yesterday Sunset. That sounds SOOOO drastic. Probably beneficial at my age but I am such a WUSS about something like that. I am a "what if" person. What if I made myself sick . Would really like to start a herb when I have all this fullness. What do you think girls.
Sunset
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Growth from massage
April 13 2006, 4:44 PM
Well personally I massaged 2 times a day everyday for a little over a month before ever starting herbs. I had GREW!! A little over 1/4"!!!
All from massage. At that point I had used only cocoa butter and every now and then some ginsing oil. So IT IS possable!!
The article that Mel gave us about the CB/Vit E combo says that you get "as big as you want from massing under the boob and under the arm with cocoa butter" (I would STILL keep massaging right on the boob as well, it did talk about this too)
Well I think at one point your boobs would stop growing eventually, so I dont really believe an AAA cup can go to a DD if they massaged with cocoa butter everyday. I DO believe YES you will/can grow but I dont know if I believe we can grow for the rest of our lives and get bigger and bigger and bigger from it. I could be wrong though-you never know.
But yes I know from personal experience it DOES help you CAN grow, and quicker than anything, you will get fullness-plumpness and more rounded look.
~Keep playin those "records" girls! ~
~Best wishes on a growing journey!~
*Sunset*
Sunset
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Snow flake
April 13 2006, 4:51 PM
I dont blame you. I am a wuss too. Some people have no problems with it, but I have seen/heard about many who do/have.
If you dont feel comfortable with it, my suggestion would be to maybe get some progesterone USP cream ( since the milk thistle didnt agree) and you are supposed to use it 7 days before your period is due (or up till you recieve your period-which ever comes first) If you bought some today and used it , if your period is due Thursday-that would be exactlly the time recommended to use it.
I know you are excited to begin (I am excited for you too!) BUT the progesterone cream will rid you of excess hormones and it will keep your receptor sites open. That way they will readily welcome the herbs.
Thats just my opinion. I would used the Progesterone cream starting today and use it till your period comes. Then you can start herbs.
But its up to you, and if you want to begin, then do it. And I will pray that it works well for you this time!
Helen
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Re: Breast Massage question?????
April 13 2006, 5:02 PM
Snowflake, I haven't done a liver cleanse myself when I started, but I might consider Lisa's advise on the one she had used, if and when I consider having a break... I agree on the "drastic" side, why don't you consider a nice detox bath, like the one Sunset suggested? Or the progesterone cream? Perhaps both? Good luck girl, with whatever you decide, so that you can start soon and start seeing results! x
Sunset thanks you, you are a great person, I say it again I am lucky to have found you and all the girls in this forum! x
Snowflake
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Your Right,
April 13 2006, 5:09 PM
I'll be patient and keep massaging. Start fennel when I get my period. About the Cleanse/flush, would really like to do the liver flush, I will search more and decide later. If I choose not to do it I will certainly do the ones mentioned by Sunset and Lisa I think. I am getting excited, but you right, shouldn't just jump in till body is ready. Thanx Ladies
Moon
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Re: Breast Massage question?????
April 14 2006, 6:53 PM
Well, I thought I saw my tinny bobies a bit bigger since I've been on SP, FG with massage, but I don't know for sure, hasn't been long enough I guess. Still waiting and hoping though. ^_^
Sunset
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Snowflake & Moon
April 14 2006, 9:06 PM
I wish you both luck and am sure you will both be just fine and start growing in no time!
Helen-thank you
April 13 2006 at 3:09 PM Snowflake (Login GoldSnowflake)
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Really having trouble typing this morning but here goes. Does it matter which way you massage, clockwise or counter clockwise. having trouble getting right breast to catch up with the left.. But other than that am quite full and very tender. massage aleast twice a day sometimes three. Not massageing larger brest as much as smaller.Thanks any input would be great. PS Sunset dropped the milk thislte all together starting to feel abit more like myself again.
-Moon-
(no login)
Re: Breast Massage question?????
April 13 2006, 3:19 PM
I can't really answer, cause I am wondering the same thing, but I have another question - does it matter whether you massage over the clotes, or does it have to be on bare skin?
Snowflake
(Login GoldSnowflake)
EVE MEMBERS
This Is embarrassing but----
April 13 2006, 3:33 PM
If I am not wearing a bra,(in the evening when I got my jammis on) watching TV, I find myself massaging myself over my t-shirt, cause the material moves for you so its kinda like using cream. I just have so much fullness I can't stop touching them. I know thats weird. And maybe alot of the fullness will be gone after my period, it will be interesting to see what happens. I would also would like to know if anyone things you can get substancial growth with just massage. So Moon, have you noticed much change since you started massage.
Sunset
(Login liquidSunset)
EVE MEMBERS
Re: Breast Massage question?????
April 13 2006, 4:10 PM
hmm, lemme see how I can expain this.
If you are standing right in front of a clock, you should move your RIGHT boob the OPPOSITE way of the hands on the clock.
You should move the LEFT boob the SAME way as the hands on the clock.
(gosh I hope that doesnt confuse anyone.)
Ok- Basically you want to massage BOTH boobs so that you are rotating INWARDS like to where the "cleavage" is. Move your hand inwards and up wards.
DO NOT move them outwards-like towards where your arms are. This may cause them to get SMALLER-and NO we dont want that..lol
I hope this helps but if I confused anyone just ask.
And as far as massaging over clothes;well my opinion it would be much better to do it on bare skin using a batter. I think it would help much more and be more effective that way. So I would aim for 2 times a day on the bare skin.
After that if you feel like you want to massage them while lounging around in your jammies-then I guess go for it..it cant hurt.
Snowflake dont be embarrassed it is wonderful to enjoy your fuller boobies!


~Keep playin those "records" girls! ~
~Best wishes on a growing journey!~
*Sunset*
Helen
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Re: Breast Massage question?????
April 13 2006, 4:12 PM
Hehehe Slowflake, this is great, there's absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about - you are just loving your puppies and this is great!!!
Be careful with massaging without cream though, I know what you mean about the material moving on your skin, it feels it's "sliding", but friction can make your skin dry, so you might need to moisturise it afterwards anyway.
Same thing Moon, you can massage without the cream, but the breast skin is thin and sensitive, so friction with your hands might irritate it, make it dry or even sore - and we want to feel soreness due to growth, not massage friction, right?

Plus, by massaging with a lotion you also "feed" your skin with useful ingredients depending on the butter you use, so massaging doesn't only improve circulation but also helps the skin absorb these ingredients.
As for the "direction" of massage I had the same question myself. Well I cannot say clock-wise or not for both boobies as it would be the opposite for each one, so I would say clocwise for the left and anti-clockwise for the right (imagining you are looking at a clock while massaging). This is another way of describing this "up-" and "inwards" motion Sunset has told us about, I hope I am not wrong or I will be in trouble and a very "bad student"...! If I am wrong, plz Sunset dear, elaborate

-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
* Keep up the Happy Growing! *
-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
Love,
Helen x
Helen
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Sunset
April 13 2006, 4:18 PM
Whoops, bad synchronisation, I must have been typing when you posted

This is a relief though as I was not wrong about the clock directions (got a bit stressed there that I was doing it wrong!) hehe
Phewww thanks Sunset! xxx
Sunset
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hahaha Helen
April 13 2006, 4:24 PM
Well I must say you gave EXCELLENT advice..lol
We were typing at the same time-but wow how close our advice was!..hehe thats to cool

Snowflake
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EVE MEMBERS
Yes, I was Massaging wrong then,,,,,
April 13 2006, 4:26 PM
On my right breast I was massaging counterclockwise, which is actually opposite to the way i massage the left. now I'm getting confused. My right hand massages my left breast clockwaise aand my left hand was massaging counterclockwise on my right breast. So I should be massaging clock wise with my left hand too. Maybe thats why my right boob is smaller. I will pay attention better and see if it helps even out the size. Its one thing to massage at home when watching TV, but I hope I don't start doing it in public. Will have to be careful that does not happen. I am even careful,my husband doesn't see me do it, I would never hear the end of it. How much growth do you guys think is possible with just massage, never come across BE with just massage and any kind of results.
Helen
(Login Helen_N)
EVE MEMBERS
Yesss!!!
April 13 2006, 4:30 PM
Oh, thank you Ma'am! Super-glad I have not disappointed you! I will treasure my 'A' on the record playing subject! (yipeee)
This was funny, bless you girl

Sunset
(Login liquidSunset)
EVE MEMBERS
YOU ARE DOING IT RIGHT SNOWFALKE!!
April 13 2006, 4:37 PM
You are right. No matter what boob you massage your hand should be going INWARDS to the MIDDLE of your body like where your "cleavage" is. As long as you do that your safe!
Your RIGHT boob=counter-clockwise (opposite the hands of the clock)
Your LEFT boob= Clock wise (the same direction as the hands on the clock)
You are doing it perfect so dont change a thing!!

`````````````````
Helen, You have cracked me up here so many times. I am so glad you are member here. You are so funny sometimes, and I love it!

And you are giving some very good advice as well to lots of ladies about several topics. Great Job!

~Keep playin those "records" girls! ~
~Best wishes on a growing journey!~
*Sunset*
Snowflake
(Login GoldSnowflake)
EVE MEMBERS
I SOOOOO want to start my fennel,
April 13 2006, 4:43 PM
But at this point in my cycle maybe should start the SP, periods due Thursday. And haven't don the liver, gall blader flush we talked about yesterday Sunset. That sounds SOOOO drastic. Probably beneficial at my age but I am such a WUSS about something like that. I am a "what if" person. What if I made myself sick . Would really like to start a herb when I have all this fullness. What do you think girls.
Sunset
(Login liquidSunset)
EVE MEMBERS
Growth from massage
April 13 2006, 4:44 PM
Well personally I massaged 2 times a day everyday for a little over a month before ever starting herbs. I had GREW!! A little over 1/4"!!!

The article that Mel gave us about the CB/Vit E combo says that you get "as big as you want from massing under the boob and under the arm with cocoa butter" (I would STILL keep massaging right on the boob as well, it did talk about this too)
Well I think at one point your boobs would stop growing eventually, so I dont really believe an AAA cup can go to a DD if they massaged with cocoa butter everyday. I DO believe YES you will/can grow but I dont know if I believe we can grow for the rest of our lives and get bigger and bigger and bigger from it. I could be wrong though-you never know.
But yes I know from personal experience it DOES help you CAN grow, and quicker than anything, you will get fullness-plumpness and more rounded look.
~Keep playin those "records" girls! ~
~Best wishes on a growing journey!~
*Sunset*
Sunset
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Snow flake
April 13 2006, 4:51 PM
I dont blame you. I am a wuss too. Some people have no problems with it, but I have seen/heard about many who do/have.
If you dont feel comfortable with it, my suggestion would be to maybe get some progesterone USP cream ( since the milk thistle didnt agree) and you are supposed to use it 7 days before your period is due (or up till you recieve your period-which ever comes first) If you bought some today and used it , if your period is due Thursday-that would be exactlly the time recommended to use it.
I know you are excited to begin (I am excited for you too!) BUT the progesterone cream will rid you of excess hormones and it will keep your receptor sites open. That way they will readily welcome the herbs.
Thats just my opinion. I would used the Progesterone cream starting today and use it till your period comes. Then you can start herbs.
But its up to you, and if you want to begin, then do it. And I will pray that it works well for you this time!

Helen
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EVE MEMBERS
Re: Breast Massage question?????
April 13 2006, 5:02 PM
Snowflake, I haven't done a liver cleanse myself when I started, but I might consider Lisa's advise on the one she had used, if and when I consider having a break... I agree on the "drastic" side, why don't you consider a nice detox bath, like the one Sunset suggested? Or the progesterone cream? Perhaps both? Good luck girl, with whatever you decide, so that you can start soon and start seeing results! x
Sunset thanks you, you are a great person, I say it again I am lucky to have found you and all the girls in this forum! x
Snowflake
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Your Right,
April 13 2006, 5:09 PM
I'll be patient and keep massaging. Start fennel when I get my period. About the Cleanse/flush, would really like to do the liver flush, I will search more and decide later. If I choose not to do it I will certainly do the ones mentioned by Sunset and Lisa I think. I am getting excited, but you right, shouldn't just jump in till body is ready. Thanx Ladies
Moon
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Re: Breast Massage question?????
April 14 2006, 6:53 PM
Well, I thought I saw my tinny bobies a bit bigger since I've been on SP, FG with massage, but I don't know for sure, hasn't been long enough I guess. Still waiting and hoping though. ^_^
Sunset
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Snowflake & Moon
April 14 2006, 9:06 PM
I wish you both luck and am sure you will both be just fine and start growing in no time!
Helen-thank you
