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To Eve
January 19 2008 at 8:15 PM
Sandy (Login sandy111)
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Hi Eve,
I just wanted to ask you about your program.If i want to do the exact one but skip the tea thing should i add to the doses of herbs i take during the day?Do you think the teas were of graet importance? And can i take flaxseed oil instead or should it be in the from of seed?

This was your program ,I hope it is correct:

Barley 800mg,
Bere(alfalfa) 400mg,
Fennel (400mg,
Fenugreek 1800mg,
Hops 1800mg,
Linseed 1000mg(flax seed)
Oats 800mg,
Soya 1000mg.

Thanks a lot!




Eve M
(Login EveEM)
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Re: To Eve
January 20 2008, 7:24 AM

The idea of taking some of the herbs in teas is that it prevented me from drinking tea and coffee, which I gather is a help when taking herbs. If you took those herb teas in powder form it should be the equivalent, so yes add them to the other powders. Regarding the linseed, I don't think the oil contains all the nutrients of the whole seed, so you should look for the seed powder rather than oil.




sandy
(Login sandy111)
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Re: To Eve
January 20 2008, 8:17 AM

You added 2 grams of FG,hops..and drank them in rotation.I don't drink tea neither coffee.so don't need a replacement.So I should add 2 gram of FG to the daily routine?Which is 2000mg! Sorry I really didn't get it when you replied.Also i have FG in seed form,so when i take 1800 mg of it would be equivelant to 1800 mg of the powder right?




Eve M
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Re: To Eve
January 20 2008, 1:13 PM

I'm not sure which part of my answer you didn't understand, but if FG is fenugreek then no I didn't take fenugreek tea. The teas I took were hops, barley and fennel. Regarding your question about fenugreek seeds, it's impossible to answer without knowing what you have exactly, dried seeds, dried and powdered seeds, whole seeds???




sandy
(Login sandy111)
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Re: To Eve
January 20 2008, 1:51 PM

Oh.that's true.I don't know why i thought you drank FG tea.so i should add 2000mg of barley,hops and fennel to the daily routine?
My question is that i don't want to drink the treas so is there anything i should add to the routine above,because when you drank the teas you added a certain amount of herbs to the daily routine.I am trying to be as clear as possible about the question.I don't want to confuse you.And the FG i have is the whole seed.It is black thanks




Eve M
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Re: To Eve
January 20 2008, 5:13 PM

As I said already, taking the herbs in powder form would be essentially the same as taking them in teas. It's just a different method of delivery.
The answer to your other question is no, 1800mg of whole seed would not be the same as 1800mg of dried and powdered seed. They are not equivalent. Unfortunately I don't know what the conversion between the two would be.



Louise
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Re: To Eve
January 20 2008, 5:20 PM

Hi Eve,

You said Sandy should take equivalent of 2g to make up for not drinking the teas - do you mean she she add 2g each of the three herbs or are teas weaker and she should add a smaller amount?

If we make teas by just adding water to powdered herbs and then make sure we drink all the powder that's left in the bottom of the cup, is this the same as if we'd taken the same quantity as a tablet or does the action of adding hot water weaken the herbs in some way?




Eve M
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Re: To Eve
January 20 2008, 5:34 PM

Good question. I think adding hot water may mean a loss of some of the herb's properties, so if you're substituting powdered herbs for the teas you could take less than the 2g, but not a lot less.




Sandy
(Login sandy111)
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Re: To Eve
January 20 2008, 5:38 PM

Hmm and how much should I add to the daily routine if I don't want to drink any herbal teas?




Nell Gwynne
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Re: To Eve
January 20 2008, 5:54 PM

Well as Eve said.... you could take less than the 2g but not a lot less!




Sandy
(Login sandy111)
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Re: To Eve
January 20 2008, 5:59 PM

that would mean taking a little less than:
2800mg barley
3800mg hops
2400 mg fennel

which are really high amounts!




Molly
(Login MollyH)
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Re: To Eve
January 21 2008, 7:46 AM

I suggest 1.5g of powdered herb to replace the 2g herbal tea. That should be about right.



Louise
(Login Louise1982)
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Re: To Eve
January 21 2008, 6:41 PM

Doesn't hops count as strongly estrogenic? I thought if you had more than about 2500mg of strong estrogenics daily you stalled?




Eve M
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Re: To Eve
January 22 2008, 12:23 PM

2500mg doesn't sound that much to me. I'm surprised if that's supposed to be the upper limit.



Zoe
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Hops
January 30 2008, 7:21 AM

Is hops really strongly estrogenic? Maybe I got it wrong, but I didn't think it was a strong one?



Marlene
(login Marlene)
Hops
January 30 2008, 2:14 PM

I think hops is strong, but strangely it's hardly used in US breast enhancement formulas. It's used all the time in European products though. Erdic and Nature's gain uses 3 kinds of hops!