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liquid extract
April 8 2008 at 10:57 PM amy (Login firish69)
How many mg or the equivelent is 1/2 a dropper of green bush herbs I got fg,sp,rc and wy
is wild yam pointless to take with this mix?
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
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Re: liquid extract
April 8 2008, 11:29 PM
There were a lot of posts about this a while ago and basically we never came up with a good answer - the manufacturer / supplier of the liquid is probably the person to ask as they know how strong it is. Wild yam is probably pointless for everything! Put wild yam into google - there are sites selling it but no one independent says it will give you progesterone just by eating it / applying it to the skin and there's loads of research to say it doesn't work. If you think you're lacking progesterone see a doctor and if they agree maybe try USP progesterone cream which may be derived from wild yam (but the human body can't do the actual derivation if you just take the yam).
may
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Re: liquid extract
April 9 2008, 3:30 AM
well i don't know how much its equal to, but i have the blend kit with both capsules and liquid, i just use 1/3 to 1/2 a dropper with juice 3x'x /day.
Hopeful88
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Re: liquid extract
April 9 2008, 5:47 AM
Sorry but I don't anything about liquid extracts however Louise is right, wild yam is pointless!
Durga
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Re: liquid extract
April 9 2008, 7:02 AM
Amy,
In my search for answers to the same question, I've learned that herbal medicines are never exactly the same twice (differences in solubility, etc.). However, exact amounts seem to not be required for therapeutic efficacy. This is regarding therapeutic use, however--a little different than what we all are doing here ; ) We all want to know the mgs so we can ramp up, right? So, with liquid extract, I feel it would be best to definately start off with the lower amounts suggested on the bottle (ex: 1/2 dropperful, 3x per day) and ramp up by these amounts (ex: move on to 3/4 dropperful, 3x per day and so on)...
Look on the bottle to find out the strength ratio of your extract (1:1, 1:2, etc.).
Below is a reference from two sources who even attempted to answer this conundrum. This is at best a rough estimate of what we're getting in a liquid extract:
1:1 = 1000 mg of herb per ml
1:2 = 500 mg of herb per ml
1:3 = 333 mg of herb per ml
1:4 = 250 mg of herb per ml
1:5 = 200 mg of herb per ml
1:10 = 100 mg of herb per ml
1:20 = 50 mg of herb per ml
Louise's suggestion to contact the manufacturer is another good option. I've done this as well, and some companies cannot even answer this question!
Good luck,
Durga
amy
(Login firish69)
thanx durga
April 9 2008, 5:20 PM
I have 1:1 strength so i am gonna drop the vitex and take 1ml twice a day of fenugreek and saw palmettto for a total of 2000 mg of each and see what that does.
I also have red clover and am wondering if i should take the same dose of this.
Thanks everyone 4 ur help
Hopeful88
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Re: liquid extract
April 9 2008, 5:37 PM
Be careful with red clover it is a very potent estrogenic herb and should not be taken if not needed.
Durga
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Re: liquid extract
April 9 2008, 7:26 PM
Amy,
Your beginning dosages sound like they're on the higher side... maybe some other ladies can confirm this. Also, I feel that liquid extracts are more potent than dried powdered herbs, as they enter our bloodstream more directly.
Remember that we should start with lower dosages, If we don't notice any response, then increase gradually from there. We want gain results from the lowest dosages possible.
Take Care,
Durga
amy
(Login firish69)
thanks girls
April 9 2008, 10:17 PM
so maybe i will do 1500 of each and think about adding in fennel later.
I am 105 pounds 5' 3 so maybe the dose is high to start, funny though cuz i have no sensations yet.
Hopeful88
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Re: liquid extract
April 9 2008, 11:56 PM
Well if you start off on super high doses its possible you could have stalled yourself right from the beginning.
Corrie
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Re: liquid extract
December 31 2008, 4:48 AM
Hi girls - for a long time I've wanted to better understand the strengths of tinctures and extracts and their equivalent in dried herbs.
Ml of extract vs dried herbs is confusing for me. Some of you tricky girls already know this stuff, but I still don't get it. So, if we take 40 drops of extract, which is about what is usually recommended, then what is that equivalent to in dried herb? I suspect that extract actually works better, since many herbalists and naturopaths use only extracts, but I never know how much to take.
Tap
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Re: liquid extract
December 31 2008, 8:50 AM
hi corrie
Drops are not a good unit of measurement. Try putting your 40 drops into a medicience measuring cup to see how many ml it is. If the extract is a good strength (1:1), then how many ml are in your cup is the equivalent in grams of dried herbs.
EG if your 40 drops = 1ml in the measuring cup (and your extact is good quality) then you are taking 1gram of dried herbs.
Ask your herbalist what the extract strength is.
Anyway keep up the good boobie work
Tap
April 8 2008 at 10:57 PM amy (Login firish69)
How many mg or the equivelent is 1/2 a dropper of green bush herbs I got fg,sp,rc and wy
is wild yam pointless to take with this mix?
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: liquid extract
April 8 2008, 11:29 PM
There were a lot of posts about this a while ago and basically we never came up with a good answer - the manufacturer / supplier of the liquid is probably the person to ask as they know how strong it is. Wild yam is probably pointless for everything! Put wild yam into google - there are sites selling it but no one independent says it will give you progesterone just by eating it / applying it to the skin and there's loads of research to say it doesn't work. If you think you're lacking progesterone see a doctor and if they agree maybe try USP progesterone cream which may be derived from wild yam (but the human body can't do the actual derivation if you just take the yam).
may
(Login Cselestyna)
Re: liquid extract
April 9 2008, 3:30 AM
well i don't know how much its equal to, but i have the blend kit with both capsules and liquid, i just use 1/3 to 1/2 a dropper with juice 3x'x /day.
Hopeful88
(Login Hopeful88)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: liquid extract
April 9 2008, 5:47 AM
Sorry but I don't anything about liquid extracts however Louise is right, wild yam is pointless!
Durga
(Login durga)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: liquid extract
April 9 2008, 7:02 AM
Amy,
In my search for answers to the same question, I've learned that herbal medicines are never exactly the same twice (differences in solubility, etc.). However, exact amounts seem to not be required for therapeutic efficacy. This is regarding therapeutic use, however--a little different than what we all are doing here ; ) We all want to know the mgs so we can ramp up, right? So, with liquid extract, I feel it would be best to definately start off with the lower amounts suggested on the bottle (ex: 1/2 dropperful, 3x per day) and ramp up by these amounts (ex: move on to 3/4 dropperful, 3x per day and so on)...
Look on the bottle to find out the strength ratio of your extract (1:1, 1:2, etc.).
Below is a reference from two sources who even attempted to answer this conundrum. This is at best a rough estimate of what we're getting in a liquid extract:
1:1 = 1000 mg of herb per ml
1:2 = 500 mg of herb per ml
1:3 = 333 mg of herb per ml
1:4 = 250 mg of herb per ml
1:5 = 200 mg of herb per ml
1:10 = 100 mg of herb per ml
1:20 = 50 mg of herb per ml
Louise's suggestion to contact the manufacturer is another good option. I've done this as well, and some companies cannot even answer this question!
Good luck,
Durga
amy
(Login firish69)
thanx durga
April 9 2008, 5:20 PM
I have 1:1 strength so i am gonna drop the vitex and take 1ml twice a day of fenugreek and saw palmettto for a total of 2000 mg of each and see what that does.
I also have red clover and am wondering if i should take the same dose of this.
Thanks everyone 4 ur help
Hopeful88
(Login Hopeful88)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: liquid extract
April 9 2008, 5:37 PM
Be careful with red clover it is a very potent estrogenic herb and should not be taken if not needed.
Durga
(Login durga)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: liquid extract
April 9 2008, 7:26 PM
Amy,
Your beginning dosages sound like they're on the higher side... maybe some other ladies can confirm this. Also, I feel that liquid extracts are more potent than dried powdered herbs, as they enter our bloodstream more directly.
Remember that we should start with lower dosages, If we don't notice any response, then increase gradually from there. We want gain results from the lowest dosages possible.
Take Care,
Durga
amy
(Login firish69)
thanks girls
April 9 2008, 10:17 PM
so maybe i will do 1500 of each and think about adding in fennel later.
I am 105 pounds 5' 3 so maybe the dose is high to start, funny though cuz i have no sensations yet.
Hopeful88
(Login Hopeful88)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: liquid extract
April 9 2008, 11:56 PM
Well if you start off on super high doses its possible you could have stalled yourself right from the beginning.
Corrie
(Login Corrie73)
Re: liquid extract
December 31 2008, 4:48 AM
Hi girls - for a long time I've wanted to better understand the strengths of tinctures and extracts and their equivalent in dried herbs.
Ml of extract vs dried herbs is confusing for me. Some of you tricky girls already know this stuff, but I still don't get it. So, if we take 40 drops of extract, which is about what is usually recommended, then what is that equivalent to in dried herb? I suspect that extract actually works better, since many herbalists and naturopaths use only extracts, but I never know how much to take.
Tap
(Login Tap69)
EVE MEMBERS
Re: liquid extract
December 31 2008, 8:50 AM
hi corrie
Drops are not a good unit of measurement. Try putting your 40 drops into a medicience measuring cup to see how many ml it is. If the extract is a good strength (1:1), then how many ml are in your cup is the equivalent in grams of dried herbs.
EG if your 40 drops = 1ml in the measuring cup (and your extact is good quality) then you are taking 1gram of dried herbs.
Ask your herbalist what the extract strength is.
Anyway keep up the good boobie work
Tap