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breast tissue growth impossible
August 15 2005 at 4:36 PM Krista (no login)
Hello all,
Someone on another forum I go to who says she is a final year medical student and a doctor to be in 3 months posted that she is also looking for an alternative to breast enhancement. She says that the products that claim to promote breast tissue growth with phytoestrogens actually only make your breasts retain water, making them bigger that way, and that nothing can actually make your breast tissue grow because if it did you'd get cancer. She says she's looking into products like Bountiful Breast who claim to only add fat to the breasts which is what happens when your breasts grow naturally.
Some thoughts on this, please?
prettysoulful
(no login)
Re: breast tissue growth impossible
August 15 2005, 5:06 PM
Never trust the establishment! hehehe.
Actually, a study has shown that diosgenin, found in fenugreek, and Wild Yam has produced mammary tissue growth in ovarectimized mice. Everyone throws out the cancer scare, but to be honest, I'd rather fill my receptors with phytohormones than xenohormones any day. And phytohormones are believed to displace xenohormones in the receptors, thereby helping to reduce the risks of cancer. Plus, phytohormones are not nearly as strong as the actual hormones which again reduces the possibility of encouraging cancer cell growth.
Nicole
(no login)
Re: breast tissue growth impossible
August 15 2005, 7:45 PM
The person you're quoting sounds as though she's just saying what Bountiful Breasts have told her to think. Even if that theory was true there are much cheaper sources of bovine ovary.
SugarQ
(no login)
Re: breast tissue growth impossible
August 16 2005, 2:36 AM
1)With NBE your aim it got get fat to settle. Estrogen is suppose to help with that. the fatter a person is the more estrogen they have.fatter people tend to have larger breasts. Skinny people tend to suffer from low estrogen levesls. skinny people have smaller breasts.Im not saying that everyone on this forum who want to do NBE has a estrogen level problem and needs more, but to keep things simple and basic this is were the concept of NBE begins.
2)I've heard some negatives comments on how the study took place in india whith diosgenin from Fenugreek wild Yam. I also read that there is another study that found some mammary growth in mice with Cumin and fennel too. but in my opinion breast growthing from herbs have not really been proven yet through lab testing especially in humans. But something is definatly happening to some of these women who use herbs and have had success.
But the truth is not too many women find success with just herbs alone. some do massaging, Pumping (either Brava tension pumping or breastfeeding/suction pumping) Hypnosis,Heating pads,Breast massage creams etc.All of which are very good on their own at causing swelling and/or enlargement.
3)as for breast tissue growth. the only tissue that grows after puberty is fat and cancer cells. and during pregnacy, the breast tissue matures fully and but thats it. its kinda true that women have about the same amount of glands but what determains size is the amount of fat in the breast. but some herbs and medication that cause NBE mainly do so through enlarging the glands (like they do during pregnacy) which will cause your breast to become bigger and firmer. this is usually temperary, and if the glands are not replaced with fat( which is what we want with NBE)after pregnacy and breastfeeding, your breast will deflate; sometimes to a smaller cup size then when you started.
4) i dont think that BO(from bountiful breast) works really well at NBE. for every success story ive heard i probably hear 10 failures. But those that do find success seem to do really well and tend to get a cup or more (over 2") of growth. BUt alot of what Bountiful Breast pills have on their site is a bunch of crap and they are super expensive. IF you still wanna try BO i recommend Vitamine Power, D&E, Feminique, Feminant, Estro-glan etc. they are much much much cheaper and have the same quality of Bovine Ovaries as BB.
Its relativly easier to get the breast to enlarge but the trouble is keeping the growth.
Anonymous
(no login)
Re: breast tissue growth impossible
August 16 2005, 2:47 AM
As for Phytoestrogens causing cancer. Phytoestrogens dont work the quite the same as BC, Estradiol and other hormones which are known to cause cancer. There are some studies that suggest that it herbs can encourace cancer cell growth. But the risk of causing caner in pretty low. and their are a ton of things you can do to reduce the risk even more. right now dont freak out just yet about cancer from NBE.
Krista
(no login)
Re: breast tissue growth impossible
August 16 2005, 11:31 PM
Should I be worried that after doing all this NBE my breasts will end up smaller than they were in the beginning??!
SugarQ
(no login)
Re: breast tissue growth impossible
August 17 2005, 4:34 AM
It can happen. in fact it has happened or at least some women on other NBE forums believed that it happened to them. some believe that you may shrink to a smaller size before you acctually get growth but it really unclear. the longer your routine the best chance you will keep the growth. also if you slowly pull off your routine when you are ready the quit instead of just quiting cold turkey, the less likely your breast will shrink.
You are not really growing more mammary tissue. the glands are just expanding and enlarging like they do during pregnacy. there is really very little if any actural mammary tissue growth. if your breasts are under developed then maybe you will be lucky enough to get some more glands to get closer to average but thats it.when they are enlarged the glands will replace fat that is already in the breast. once the glands shrink back your breast becomes looser, saggier and shrink back to a smaller size. But if your routine is longer (between 6-15+ months)and you slower cut back off your routine then the glands shrink slower and you allow time for fat to replace the glands. if you wanna take a break during your NBE routine then thats fine. Progesterone cream, hypnosis and massages will help prevent too much shrinkage if you are very worried about shrinkage during a break.
i came across this aricle regarding ageing, and sagging breast. the stuff the doctor writes regarding progesterone's role in breast growth and sex makeing breasts gorw is not really accurate. but he also gives some tips a whith overall breast health. problems.http://www.totalityofbeing.com/ArchivedBreastShape.html.
Krista
(no login)
Oh no
August 18 2005, 12:16 AM
Well that's just great. Not good to hear. Don't want them smaller than they were in the first place!!
SugarQ
(no login)
Re: Oh no
August 18 2005, 3:47 AM
Shrinkage from herbs does not generally happen too much. i probably heard about 2 women who claim that they had their breasts shrink to a smaller cupsize while on NBE and im not talking a a huge amount of shrinkage.It could just be all in their minds although in theory it can happen. with unsuccessful NBE women either dont grow or just loose what little they gained. you really dont have too much to worry about. the tips for prevention that i listed that anyone can do are just to ease the mind if you are very worried about it. I didnt mean to alarm anyone.
elle
(no login)
Re: breast tissue growth impossible
August 20 2005, 8:52 PM
She mite not have looked into it that deeply. I no brava works and they would not be aloud to be a .gov site if cancer was a danger. so dont give up! :o)
Elise
(no login)
Bountiful Breast
November 19 2005, 6:06 AM
I have been interested in Bountiful Breast since a while, but never felt comfortable enough to take it, especially because it is not an herbal product. But I would like to hear as much as I can about this company so I can get a resolution to the constant idea of 'i should maybe try it'.
Bradley
(Login bluethamesriver)
Porcine
November 19 2005, 7:48 PM
Dont forget you have the porcine ovary as option not just the bovine ovary.
Anonymous
(no login)
Re: breast tissue growth impossible
November 20 2005, 12:22 AM
I have been on herbs for 3 weeks now. I don't do massages or anything else. Will I still get growth?
Lisa
(no login)
Re: breast tissue growth impossible
November 20 2005, 12:27 PM
You might Anon, but massaging will definatly speed up the process, if I was you I would try to do it once a day for at least a couple of minutes.
Theresa
(Login Theresa)
Re: Porcine
November 21 2005, 8:31 PM
Yes Bradley, porcine ovary is an alternative to bovine ovary - and way cheaper than Bountiful Breast.
August 15 2005 at 4:36 PM Krista (no login)
Hello all,
Someone on another forum I go to who says she is a final year medical student and a doctor to be in 3 months posted that she is also looking for an alternative to breast enhancement. She says that the products that claim to promote breast tissue growth with phytoestrogens actually only make your breasts retain water, making them bigger that way, and that nothing can actually make your breast tissue grow because if it did you'd get cancer. She says she's looking into products like Bountiful Breast who claim to only add fat to the breasts which is what happens when your breasts grow naturally.
Some thoughts on this, please?
prettysoulful
(no login)
Re: breast tissue growth impossible
August 15 2005, 5:06 PM
Never trust the establishment! hehehe.
Actually, a study has shown that diosgenin, found in fenugreek, and Wild Yam has produced mammary tissue growth in ovarectimized mice. Everyone throws out the cancer scare, but to be honest, I'd rather fill my receptors with phytohormones than xenohormones any day. And phytohormones are believed to displace xenohormones in the receptors, thereby helping to reduce the risks of cancer. Plus, phytohormones are not nearly as strong as the actual hormones which again reduces the possibility of encouraging cancer cell growth.
Nicole
(no login)
Re: breast tissue growth impossible
August 15 2005, 7:45 PM
The person you're quoting sounds as though she's just saying what Bountiful Breasts have told her to think. Even if that theory was true there are much cheaper sources of bovine ovary.
SugarQ
(no login)
Re: breast tissue growth impossible
August 16 2005, 2:36 AM
1)With NBE your aim it got get fat to settle. Estrogen is suppose to help with that. the fatter a person is the more estrogen they have.fatter people tend to have larger breasts. Skinny people tend to suffer from low estrogen levesls. skinny people have smaller breasts.Im not saying that everyone on this forum who want to do NBE has a estrogen level problem and needs more, but to keep things simple and basic this is were the concept of NBE begins.
2)I've heard some negatives comments on how the study took place in india whith diosgenin from Fenugreek wild Yam. I also read that there is another study that found some mammary growth in mice with Cumin and fennel too. but in my opinion breast growthing from herbs have not really been proven yet through lab testing especially in humans. But something is definatly happening to some of these women who use herbs and have had success.
But the truth is not too many women find success with just herbs alone. some do massaging, Pumping (either Brava tension pumping or breastfeeding/suction pumping) Hypnosis,Heating pads,Breast massage creams etc.All of which are very good on their own at causing swelling and/or enlargement.
3)as for breast tissue growth. the only tissue that grows after puberty is fat and cancer cells. and during pregnacy, the breast tissue matures fully and but thats it. its kinda true that women have about the same amount of glands but what determains size is the amount of fat in the breast. but some herbs and medication that cause NBE mainly do so through enlarging the glands (like they do during pregnacy) which will cause your breast to become bigger and firmer. this is usually temperary, and if the glands are not replaced with fat( which is what we want with NBE)after pregnacy and breastfeeding, your breast will deflate; sometimes to a smaller cup size then when you started.
4) i dont think that BO(from bountiful breast) works really well at NBE. for every success story ive heard i probably hear 10 failures. But those that do find success seem to do really well and tend to get a cup or more (over 2") of growth. BUt alot of what Bountiful Breast pills have on their site is a bunch of crap and they are super expensive. IF you still wanna try BO i recommend Vitamine Power, D&E, Feminique, Feminant, Estro-glan etc. they are much much much cheaper and have the same quality of Bovine Ovaries as BB.
Its relativly easier to get the breast to enlarge but the trouble is keeping the growth.
Anonymous
(no login)
Re: breast tissue growth impossible
August 16 2005, 2:47 AM
As for Phytoestrogens causing cancer. Phytoestrogens dont work the quite the same as BC, Estradiol and other hormones which are known to cause cancer. There are some studies that suggest that it herbs can encourace cancer cell growth. But the risk of causing caner in pretty low. and their are a ton of things you can do to reduce the risk even more. right now dont freak out just yet about cancer from NBE.
Krista
(no login)
Re: breast tissue growth impossible
August 16 2005, 11:31 PM
Should I be worried that after doing all this NBE my breasts will end up smaller than they were in the beginning??!
SugarQ
(no login)
Re: breast tissue growth impossible
August 17 2005, 4:34 AM
It can happen. in fact it has happened or at least some women on other NBE forums believed that it happened to them. some believe that you may shrink to a smaller size before you acctually get growth but it really unclear. the longer your routine the best chance you will keep the growth. also if you slowly pull off your routine when you are ready the quit instead of just quiting cold turkey, the less likely your breast will shrink.
You are not really growing more mammary tissue. the glands are just expanding and enlarging like they do during pregnacy. there is really very little if any actural mammary tissue growth. if your breasts are under developed then maybe you will be lucky enough to get some more glands to get closer to average but thats it.when they are enlarged the glands will replace fat that is already in the breast. once the glands shrink back your breast becomes looser, saggier and shrink back to a smaller size. But if your routine is longer (between 6-15+ months)and you slower cut back off your routine then the glands shrink slower and you allow time for fat to replace the glands. if you wanna take a break during your NBE routine then thats fine. Progesterone cream, hypnosis and massages will help prevent too much shrinkage if you are very worried about shrinkage during a break.
i came across this aricle regarding ageing, and sagging breast. the stuff the doctor writes regarding progesterone's role in breast growth and sex makeing breasts gorw is not really accurate. but he also gives some tips a whith overall breast health. problems.http://www.totalityofbeing.com/ArchivedBreastShape.html.
Krista
(no login)
Oh no
August 18 2005, 12:16 AM
Well that's just great. Not good to hear. Don't want them smaller than they were in the first place!!
SugarQ
(no login)
Re: Oh no
August 18 2005, 3:47 AM
Shrinkage from herbs does not generally happen too much. i probably heard about 2 women who claim that they had their breasts shrink to a smaller cupsize while on NBE and im not talking a a huge amount of shrinkage.It could just be all in their minds although in theory it can happen. with unsuccessful NBE women either dont grow or just loose what little they gained. you really dont have too much to worry about. the tips for prevention that i listed that anyone can do are just to ease the mind if you are very worried about it. I didnt mean to alarm anyone.
elle
(no login)
Re: breast tissue growth impossible
August 20 2005, 8:52 PM
She mite not have looked into it that deeply. I no brava works and they would not be aloud to be a .gov site if cancer was a danger. so dont give up! :o)
Elise
(no login)
Bountiful Breast
November 19 2005, 6:06 AM
I have been interested in Bountiful Breast since a while, but never felt comfortable enough to take it, especially because it is not an herbal product. But I would like to hear as much as I can about this company so I can get a resolution to the constant idea of 'i should maybe try it'.
Bradley
(Login bluethamesriver)
Porcine
November 19 2005, 7:48 PM
Dont forget you have the porcine ovary as option not just the bovine ovary.
Anonymous
(no login)
Re: breast tissue growth impossible
November 20 2005, 12:22 AM
I have been on herbs for 3 weeks now. I don't do massages or anything else. Will I still get growth?
Lisa
(no login)
Re: breast tissue growth impossible
November 20 2005, 12:27 PM
You might Anon, but massaging will definatly speed up the process, if I was you I would try to do it once a day for at least a couple of minutes.
Theresa
(Login Theresa)
Re: Porcine
November 21 2005, 8:31 PM
Yes Bradley, porcine ovary is an alternative to bovine ovary - and way cheaper than Bountiful Breast.