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Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
October 30 2008 at 12:18 PM Need Help (Login Cheeky_girl_1)
I have put on a few kilos since I've started NBE, I think all the fat have gone to my waist and tummy and I have no growth on my boobs at all.....I work out 4-5 times a week, no change on diet, I still can't get rid off those extra kilos I've put on, was wondering can I do a lemon detox diet while I'm on NBE? Please help..........
waxingmoon
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Re: Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
October 30 2008, 1:16 PM
Hi Need Help,
Are you using Saw Palmetto? That herb has been reported to cause weight increase. Most people do gain some weight while doing NBE, especially if they are taking a bunch of phytoestrogens.
I don't know what a lemon detox diet is, but I can guess it involves a lot of lemon...lol. Any diet that causes weight loss is considered counter to NBE. If I were you I would not go to extreme measures.
What is your program?
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
may
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Re: Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
October 31 2008, 2:12 AM
waxingmoon is right, doing a dexot of any kind is not reccomended while on NBE. take a month to detox and then go back to your program, or tweak your program. the detox will help you lose those extra punds and will cleanse your body so when you return to your NBE program your body will absorb the herbs/boobie foods better, what ever you are taking.
but do not do the detox at the same time, you will just be wasting your money.
i suggest you do a liver cleanse, milk thistle is very popular for liver cleansing, espessially here on the forum. i have never heard of a lemon detox, but if you want to consume more lemon thats fine, but use milkthistle to cleanse your liver it will be better for you.
hope this helps,
Moon
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Re: Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
October 31 2008, 8:07 PM
By what mechanism exactly is detox supposed to prevent NBE from working? It's beneficial to do detox before NBE of course, but I have the impression that the idea of not doing detox and NBE together is just one of the obsolete recomendations that was never based on any actual arguments.
Wahaika
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Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
October 31 2008, 9:23 PM
A lemon detox is the lesser of two liver cleanses (one is a "cleanse", one is a "flush"). As a practice it has been done while on a short break but I know of no reason that it could not be done while on a program. It is definitely beneficial in theory because it facilitates the liver in processing the internal phytoestrogens. Taking CoQ10 is also good for the liver and women who take fenugreek capsules with orange juice also seem to have real good results.
(my 2 cents)
This message has been edited by Wahaika on Oct 31, 2008 9:26 PM
Moon
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Re: Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
October 31 2008, 10:09 PM
Wahaika - As I understand it the lemon cleanse does its job by delivering antioxidants, so it ''cleanses'' out toxins, which wouldn't in any way interfere with herbs. Milk thistle on the other hand speeds up regeneration of liver cells, which again from what I know wouldn't affect usage of herbs either. I can't help but to think that the whole idea of ''cleansing'' and ''flushing'' while on a brake came from literally imagining liver beeing flushed like a toilet lol.
Louise
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Re: Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
October 31 2008, 10:30 PM
I would've thought CoQ10 was too likely to burn fat? I took a supplement ages ago that was mainly CoQ10 and L-carnitine - it gave me a proper buzz!! Feeling awake and ready for action on about 4 hours sleep per night. Only took it for about a week because it was absolutely disgusting but not been brave enough to try it again.
To the original poster - are you sure what you have is proper fatty tissue and not some sort of bloating (either digestive or hormonal)? If it is actual fat you've gained sadly your best bet is to ditch the herbs or maybe try something different.
Moon
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Re: Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
October 31 2008, 11:24 PM
Wow, I'm actually tempted to try l-carnitine now cause I have a slight case of chronic fatigue but then I don't wanna lose any boobage...
Wahaika
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Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
November 1 2008, 12:32 AM
Hey Moon, you're right. I was thinking of the liver cleanse that uses milk thistle. It was the lemon that threw me off. The liver "flush" I had in mind is here:
http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp
L-Carnatine is really good for energy production. It works by making the mitochondria more pliable therefore making it easier to get nutrients in and toxins out of each cell.
greecemonkey
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Re: Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
November 1 2008, 1:08 AM
Kool, Im quite fatigued as I dont sleep well.. so L-Carnatine could be the ticket?!? Im gonna check it out right this second ;P
Thanks for the tip!!
Happy growing!!
waxingmoon
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Re: Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
November 1 2008, 4:27 AM
Regarding the L-carnitine I found this mentioned as a side effect:
"...if you have low or border-line thyroid levels, you should not take L-carnitine as it may impair the action of your thyroid hormone..."
This came from:
http://www.nutritional-supplements-health-guide.com/l-carnitine-side-effects.html
I tried to reference another good site that usually is fairly correct in its cautions and although I did not find exactly the same thing I did find a reference to l-carnitine being used to treat excess thyroid (hyperthyroidism). I think there could be something to the above caution.
Many people who are experiencing fatigue may have an undiagnosed low or border-line low thyroid level. If there is some impairment of thyroid hormone from l-carnitine a person with low thyroid who takes it may begin to experience a lot of low thyroid symptoms. I am thinking that sensitivity to cold or hair loss might be likely as well as a host of other symptoms.
So watch out for unusual symptoms developing if you decide to take this.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
Need help
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Thank you
November 1 2008, 4:59 AM
Thanks for all the advices. I think I will stay with my program for another month or two, then do a detox cleanse and restart my current program.
I've took pm at the beginning, had negative side effects, after 4 months on PM, I've switched to Fenugreek, Red Clover, SP and flaxseed for about 3 months now, I thought I have some growth (my measurements go up and down all the time) until I compare my before and recent pics, my boobs look no different.
Can I take Milk Thistle with the herbs at the same time?
Moon
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Re: Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
November 1 2008, 12:45 PM
Thanks for the info Wahainka, yeah that flush does make sense not to do while on NBE.
Thanks Waxingmoon, that's good to know. Luckily I had my thyroid checked a while ago and it was fine, but I do still wonder if after stopping l-carnitine that doesn't make you even more tired, so I too would try it carefully with minimal doses and not continously.
October 30 2008 at 12:18 PM Need Help (Login Cheeky_girl_1)
I have put on a few kilos since I've started NBE, I think all the fat have gone to my waist and tummy and I have no growth on my boobs at all.....I work out 4-5 times a week, no change on diet, I still can't get rid off those extra kilos I've put on, was wondering can I do a lemon detox diet while I'm on NBE? Please help..........
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
October 30 2008, 1:16 PM
Hi Need Help,
Are you using Saw Palmetto? That herb has been reported to cause weight increase. Most people do gain some weight while doing NBE, especially if they are taking a bunch of phytoestrogens.
I don't know what a lemon detox diet is, but I can guess it involves a lot of lemon...lol. Any diet that causes weight loss is considered counter to NBE. If I were you I would not go to extreme measures.
What is your program?
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
may
(no login)
Re: Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
October 31 2008, 2:12 AM
waxingmoon is right, doing a dexot of any kind is not reccomended while on NBE. take a month to detox and then go back to your program, or tweak your program. the detox will help you lose those extra punds and will cleanse your body so when you return to your NBE program your body will absorb the herbs/boobie foods better, what ever you are taking.
but do not do the detox at the same time, you will just be wasting your money.
i suggest you do a liver cleanse, milk thistle is very popular for liver cleansing, espessially here on the forum. i have never heard of a lemon detox, but if you want to consume more lemon thats fine, but use milkthistle to cleanse your liver it will be better for you.
hope this helps,
Moon
(Login -Moon-)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
October 31 2008, 8:07 PM
By what mechanism exactly is detox supposed to prevent NBE from working? It's beneficial to do detox before NBE of course, but I have the impression that the idea of not doing detox and NBE together is just one of the obsolete recomendations that was never based on any actual arguments.
Wahaika
(Login Wahaika)
SENIOR MEMBER
Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
October 31 2008, 9:23 PM
A lemon detox is the lesser of two liver cleanses (one is a "cleanse", one is a "flush"). As a practice it has been done while on a short break but I know of no reason that it could not be done while on a program. It is definitely beneficial in theory because it facilitates the liver in processing the internal phytoestrogens. Taking CoQ10 is also good for the liver and women who take fenugreek capsules with orange juice also seem to have real good results.
(my 2 cents)
This message has been edited by Wahaika on Oct 31, 2008 9:26 PM
Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
October 31 2008, 10:09 PM
Wahaika - As I understand it the lemon cleanse does its job by delivering antioxidants, so it ''cleanses'' out toxins, which wouldn't in any way interfere with herbs. Milk thistle on the other hand speeds up regeneration of liver cells, which again from what I know wouldn't affect usage of herbs either. I can't help but to think that the whole idea of ''cleansing'' and ''flushing'' while on a brake came from literally imagining liver beeing flushed like a toilet lol.
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
October 31 2008, 10:30 PM
I would've thought CoQ10 was too likely to burn fat? I took a supplement ages ago that was mainly CoQ10 and L-carnitine - it gave me a proper buzz!! Feeling awake and ready for action on about 4 hours sleep per night. Only took it for about a week because it was absolutely disgusting but not been brave enough to try it again.
To the original poster - are you sure what you have is proper fatty tissue and not some sort of bloating (either digestive or hormonal)? If it is actual fat you've gained sadly your best bet is to ditch the herbs or maybe try something different.
Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
October 31 2008, 11:24 PM
Wow, I'm actually tempted to try l-carnitine now cause I have a slight case of chronic fatigue but then I don't wanna lose any boobage...
Wahaika
(Login Wahaika)
SENIOR MEMBER
Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
November 1 2008, 12:32 AM
Hey Moon, you're right. I was thinking of the liver cleanse that uses milk thistle. It was the lemon that threw me off. The liver "flush" I had in mind is here:
http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp
L-Carnatine is really good for energy production. It works by making the mitochondria more pliable therefore making it easier to get nutrients in and toxins out of each cell.
greecemonkey
(Login greecemonkey)
Re: Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
November 1 2008, 1:08 AM
Kool, Im quite fatigued as I dont sleep well.. so L-Carnatine could be the ticket?!? Im gonna check it out right this second ;P
Thanks for the tip!!
Happy growing!!
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
November 1 2008, 4:27 AM
Regarding the L-carnitine I found this mentioned as a side effect:
"...if you have low or border-line thyroid levels, you should not take L-carnitine as it may impair the action of your thyroid hormone..."
This came from:
http://www.nutritional-supplements-health-guide.com/l-carnitine-side-effects.html
I tried to reference another good site that usually is fairly correct in its cautions and although I did not find exactly the same thing I did find a reference to l-carnitine being used to treat excess thyroid (hyperthyroidism). I think there could be something to the above caution.
Many people who are experiencing fatigue may have an undiagnosed low or border-line low thyroid level. If there is some impairment of thyroid hormone from l-carnitine a person with low thyroid who takes it may begin to experience a lot of low thyroid symptoms. I am thinking that sensitivity to cold or hair loss might be likely as well as a host of other symptoms.
So watch out for unusual symptoms developing if you decide to take this.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
Need help
(Login Cheeky_girl_1)
Thank you
November 1 2008, 4:59 AM
Thanks for all the advices. I think I will stay with my program for another month or two, then do a detox cleanse and restart my current program.
I've took pm at the beginning, had negative side effects, after 4 months on PM, I've switched to Fenugreek, Red Clover, SP and flaxseed for about 3 months now, I thought I have some growth (my measurements go up and down all the time) until I compare my before and recent pics, my boobs look no different.
Can I take Milk Thistle with the herbs at the same time?
Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Can I do a lemon detox diet while on NBE?
November 1 2008, 12:45 PM
Thanks for the info Wahainka, yeah that flush does make sense not to do while on NBE.
Thanks Waxingmoon, that's good to know. Luckily I had my thyroid checked a while ago and it was fine, but I do still wonder if after stopping l-carnitine that doesn't make you even more tired, so I too would try it carefully with minimal doses and not continously.