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Does Anyone have detox or Cleanse routines????
April 12 2006 at 12:58 PM Snowflake (Login GoldSnowflake)
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This is new to me. Been searching and the more I read the more overwhelming it seems. Does anyone have detox, cleanse routines that you have tried and liked. I am getting very confused and very frustrated in trying to do whats right for me. Really wanted to do a cleanse before I started on herbs fennel and saw palmetto. Milk thisltle lowers blood sugars but is not quite as bad as fenugreek was for me. Really need advice on this one. Thanx.
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Snowflake
April 12 2006, 4:15 PM
hi I found this interesting and thought I would pass it on. This may be a "genteler" way to detox, since you seem to be so sensitive to alot of these herbs:
Epsom salts for detox
Another simple way to draw toxins out of the body is to take a hot epsom salt bath. Hot water draws toxins out of the body to the skins surface, and while the water cools it pulls toxins from the skin, according to Naturopath Dr. Hazel Parcells. When magnesium sulfate (epsom salt) is absorbed through the skin in a bath, it helps to draw toxins from the body, reduce swelling and relax muscles.
Epsom salts are named for the mineral rich waters of Epsom, England, where they were known at least as far back as Shakespeare's day.
Epsom Salt Detox Bath Recipe
1 cup epsom salts
handful of sea salt
2 tablespoons of bath oil
Pour the ingredients into the tub while the tub is filling.
Caution: Do not take hot baths if you have high blood pressure, heart, diabetic or kidney troubles.
Epsom Salt Scrub Recipe
Massage a handful of epsom salts, mixed with 1 tablespoon of bath oil or olive oil, over wet skin to cleanse, exfoliate and soften the rough spots. Rinse well.
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Thanks Sunset.
April 12 2006, 4:29 PM
yey, the one detox I found had epsom salts too but you take it internally with fruit juice and olive oil. Do a google search under "liver flushes". They show pictures of the stones people passed. amazing. Anyway thinking along this line of detox. Apparently it helps get rid of ALOT of daily problems we encounter with our health. If I am going to detox might as well do it right and start from the beginning. Thanks for do the research.
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your welcome
April 12 2006, 4:39 PM
glad you found it helpfull.
I thought it was really neat that a hot bath and some of this stuff can detox and I would think it would be much gentler on the body. Some detox kits can make people really sick and weak. Thats one reson I will avoid those. I also read that some of those kits can rid the body of toxins so much and also rid you of good things the body DOES need.
When its time for my break I am not real sure what I will do. I take red clover and it purifies the blood, and milk thistle is good for protecting the liver. SO really I dont know what I plan to do yet.
I do like this idea that I found and pasted for you very much, so perhaps I can give it a try when the time comes.
Good luck with all of this "before hand" detox stuff!
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How about just fruit and veg and juice??
April 12 2006, 4:46 PM
For a 48 hour break, with just fruits and vegs and juices. You would be breaking from herbs for 2 days and the food and juices would help clean you out while your waiting to start herbs. Flax seed is good for detox too. No Sugar. Just am idea.
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Re: Does Anyone have detox or Cleanse routines????
April 12 2006, 4:51 PM
yes there are many "less potent" ways to detox.
Drinking cranberry juice and water will help flush your kindeys.
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cleansing herbs
April 12 2006, 5:28 PM
CLEANSING HERBS
Garlic--blood cleanser, lowers blood fats, natural antibiotic
Red clover blossoms--blood cleanser, good during convalescence and healing
Echinacea--lymph cleanser, improves lymphocyte and phagocyte actions
Dandelion root--liver and blood cleanser, diuretic, filters toxins, a tonic
Chaparral--strong blood cleanser, with possibilities for use in cancer therapy
Cayenne pepper--blood purifier, increases fluid elimination and sweat
Ginger root--stimulates circulation and sweating
Licorice root--"great detoxifier," biochemical balancer, mild laxative
Yellow dock root--skin, blood, and liver cleanser, contains vitamin C and iron
Burdock root--skin and blood cleanser, diuretic and diaphoretic, improves liver function, antibacterial and antifungal properties
Sarsaparilla root--blood and lymph cleanser, contains saponins, which reduce microbes and toxins
Prickly ash bark--good for nerves and joints, anti-infectious
Oregon grape root--skin and colon cleanser, blood purifier, liver stimulant
Parsley leaf--diuretic, flushes kidneys
Goldenseal root--blood, liver, kidney, and skin cleanser, stimulates detoxification
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April 12 2006, 5:33 PM
WoW, Sunset where do you find all this stuff and so fast tooooo. Thats great info, THANKS..
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hey Snowflake
April 12 2006, 5:34 PM
I found this web site that talks about practically EVERYTHING to do with detoxing the body. You are right, fruit and vegis do help detox, that site lets you know how to do it. If the article wasnt so long I would cut and paste it (maybe I could cut & paste the most important points and info on the general recource page)
Any how if you are interested the link is: http://www.healthy.net/scr/article.asp?ID=1558
~It also talks about saunas and stuff helping detox. Apparently when you sweat it rids your body of toxins (I had no clue!) It talks about foods that detox and what foods to avoid. Tips on when/how to detox. I found it very interesting and helpfull so maybe I will cut& paste a few key points of info from it and paste it on this forum.
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Re: Does Anyone have detox or Cleanse routines????
April 12 2006, 5:54 PM
Your very welcome Snowflake. I just typed into my search thing " list of herbs that detoxify the body" and I found that list.
I am glad I could help you and maybe some others too!
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Did'nt know if I could cut and Paste, but here it is.
April 12 2006, 5:54 PM
Flushing the Gallbladder/Cleansing the Liver
What is the Gallbladder? What is its purpose?
The Gallbladder is a sack that is supposed to hold a liquid called bile. Bile is actually bile salts. Bile Salts are made by the liver to aid in the digestion of fats and held in the gallbladder until needed for digestion. When you eat food that contains fat, the gallbladder contracts, sending the bile salts into the small intestine. There they help to emulsify the fats. This means they work like a soap to draw the fats (non-polar molecules) into the aqueous (water/polar) solutions of the small intestine.
You know how water and oil do not mix? They want to separate as in Italian dressing. Water is made of polar molecules and fats are non-polar. Bile salts act like dishwashing liquid or soaps. These types of substances are called emulsifiers. They have one polar end and one non-polar end. One end of the molecule "dissolves" in the water and one end of the molecule "dissolves" in the oil. So the emulsifier will causes the oil and water mixture to become one solution and not separate.
Once the bile emulsifies the fats, enzymes like lipase (which are polar/water based) are able to break the triglycerides down (digest them). The digested fats are then either used for energy or go into fat storage.
What are Gallstones?
Gallstones are stones that can be found in the Gallbladder.
Here is what we know for sure: Gallstones are chiefly composed of cholesterol, calcium salts, and bile pigments. They also contain some proteins. They are also called biliary calculi and biliary stones.
If I have lots of Gallstones, where is the pain?
First of all, people may have gallstones and not feel any pain. They just do not have enough stones to cause them problems. However, when the number of stones in your gallbladder becomes excessive, you will experience pain. The main pain is usually a dull ache under the shoulder blade, usually the right shoulder blade. Sometimes the pain runs through the body from the front to the back of the chest. Sometimes it radiates around the right side. By the time you are experiencing pain you probably have thousands of stones. If you do not have a lot of stones and you are experiencing pain then the gallbladder is becoming diseased. Either way, you need to flush it. Cleansing out the stones and toxins will allow it to recover and you will become pain free.
How are Gallstones formed?
Some people feel the stones actually form in the Gallbladder from the liquids stored there. The belief here is that, just like in chemistry lab, when you add different substances into a "test tube" or in this case the gall bladder, chemical bonding takes place, creating a precipitate. This is plausible, and could explain why, once people have their gall bladders out they no longer have a problem with stones. People who believe this way, usually think the pain from the stones is caused by these stones getting stuck in the bile duct. They can then say there are no stones because there is never any pain again. When the gallbladder is removed the duct that goes from the liver to the gallbladder is linked up with the bile duct which goes from the gallbladder to the small intestine. So, they believe, since this "tube" never has any more "stuck" stones and therefore no more pain, there must be no more stones.
Interestingly, plaque that forms in the arteries (causing atherosclerosis), which leads to heart disease/heart attacks, is also made up of cholesterol, calcium salts along with other things normally found in the blood stream. In the arteries my personal belief is that the cholesterol is our friend. Upon examination of the artery that contains plaque there is micro fractures (cuts) on the lining of the artery and the plaque that forms I believe is an "arterial scab". It contains cholesterol, calcium, cells similar to those that line the wall of the artery, some proteins, etc. This material is very similar to a scab. My personal feeling is that there is inflammation and damage being done to the arterial wall and friendly cholesterol along with other components makes a scab to protect the damaged arterial wall. If this did not happen, you would have more and more damage and the artery would burst under the pressure of the pumped blood. This scab is actually protecting your life, or at least prolonging it.
This is why you can "dissolve" the plaque and reverse heart disease with natural methods. And this is why the disease continues when surgical procedures are the only course a person takes. Both insulin and homocystene contribute to heart disease. Both of these substances increase inflammation in the body. They are both a sign of poor nutrition, poor diet, and failing health.
I can't help but believe that cholesterol is not a "bad guy" when it comes to gallstones either. Blood cholesterol levels include such substances in the body as estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone, they include Vitamin D, adrenal hormones such as DHEA, cortical steroids, human growth hormone, T3 and T4 (hormones made by the thyroid gland), hormones that comes from the pineal, thymus, hypothyroid, and other glands. These biochemicals are vital for life. The liver makes most of the cholesterol found in our bodies. If we eat cholesterol only about 50% of it is actually digested and absorbed into our bodies. This just means that our liver will make less. There has been a lot of bad press concerning cholesterol. I refuse to believe that because it is present, it is the bad guy.
The cholesterol lowering drugs actually inhibit the liver from doing its job. Have you looked at the warnings for the statin drugs? Most of them concern the liver. These drugs are very hard on the liver. Cholesterol is your friend. Calcium is the most important mineral in your body. Just because gallstones are made up of cholesterol, calcium, and protein, does not mean they are necessarily bad or that you should eliminate food that contains them from your diet.
Did you know you can dissolve Gallstones too?
I have seen people do it with apple juice fasting and with herbs (such as Queen of the Meadow Root, Hydrangea Root and Marshmallow Root) that dissolve stones like kidney stones, gall stones and crystals in the joints that cause arthritis and gout, etc. This takes time, but it does work.
So what is the cause of Gallstones?
Some people do not ever develop gallstones. Others develop thousands of stones. This applies to husbands and wives who live side by side for 30 years eating the exact same food!! That has lead some medical professionals to believe there must be a hereditary link. The problem is that there is a hit and miss and if you go back far enough (and you do not have to go too far) there will be no history of gallstones. In addition, there are strong links between heart disease, type II diabetes, gingivitis and gallstones. You are probably asking, "How can these all be linked together?" Okay, 80% of diabetics die from a heart attack. Gingivitis is very, very high among people who have heart disease, diabetes and cancer. People in this category tend to gain their weight in the stomach and are labeled overweight. This group of people also tends to have their gallbladders out approximately 10 years before the have a heart attack.
Note: You are now reading my ideas only. I am not a doctor, just a friend who researches and meditates on things. I am throwing out my ideas for you to think about. Your health is yours, your body is yours. You need to research everything and make your own decisions as to what you think the best things are for you to do. Please check out everything I say. Make your own decisions.
When I worked in a hospital in Dallas, I use to do the cross matching of blood for open heart surgeries. They did 6 surgeries each day. Over the days and weeks I became distressed by the fact that 98% of the people having open heart surgery were people with A+ blood types. I would check out my antisera (typing serum) and run controls every night, and sometimes recheck my patients because the results baffled me. On the nights I was not there someone else would cross-match those units of blood for the surgeries. I looked back at their work. It correlated with mine. You see about 38% of the population is O+ and about 34% is A+ (Only 9% is B+). Therefore, I should have had about half A+ and half O+ right? But I didn't. I worked there for a year and only had a handful of O blood types who underwent open heart surgery and possibly 2 B blood types. What does this mean? Well it means there is something to the Blood Type Diet and the Eat Right for Your Type books. I don't agree with everything in there, but I do know there is some truth to it.
My father was classic for the standard person fitting this "mold". He came from a family that had problems with diabetes, though he never was diagnosed with it. I believe in retrospect that he definitely had insulin resistance, and therefore high insulin levels, but he maintained a healthy pancreas. My father had severe gallbladder problems when he was in his 30's and had his gallbladder surgically removed. In those days when they operated on you to remove the gallbladder the incision went from the front all the way around the body to the back. Recovery took weeks. Dressings had to be changed daily and the surgical recovery was almost worse than the gallbladder attacks. In his late 40's (10 years later) he was surprised at how little energy he had. He often declared that old age was creeping up on him. Dad had a "tummy" on him though he was not grossly overweight. Though incredibly active in his youth, he had a desk job as an mechanical engineer to provide for his family. Physical activity amounted to playing with his children, mowing the yard and taking walks. Having been married to my mother (who is an O+ blood type) for 25 years and eating the same food as she did, my mother's energy never seemed to wane, yet his did. He would mow the front yard one day and several days later he would mow the back yard. He would have to take breaks while mowing because it would be so exhausting. In hind sight I can also tell you he had those creases in his ear lobes. Every single person I have met who has had a heart attack has had those creases.
At 51 years of age my father was playing with my first born son and experienced pain in his right arm. He left him on the couch and went to the bathroom. He came back, still experiencing pain and then collapsed. I was there and did CPR on him until the ambulance arrived. Everything was done for him that could possibly be done, but his heart never restarted and he was gone. My mother, who is an O blood type, still continues to eat the same foods and seems to have none of the same symptoms. It has been 18 years since dad passed away and she is still going strong.
All the signs were there for my father, but I just did not see them.
Today I am approaching the age my father died at. A few years ago I did a gall bladder cleanse. I passed thousands of stones. I tend to gain my weight in the exact same spot - the tummy. I, also am A+, just like him. So I have a keen interest in knowing what to do and how to avoid getting gallstones.
After my first set of cleansings about 1 year later I experienced gall bladder pain again. So I did another series of cleansings. I realized then that if I did not change things, I would be headed for a heart attack, and would have to continually purge stones. The following is what I have done. It has been several years and the gallstone pain has not come back. I do not know that I have the complete answer, but I believe I have come up with at least a partial answer.
I decided that one of the reasons I had developed gallstones was because my gallbladder had not be emptying fully. For several years prior to the pain I had been on a low fat/vegetarian diet. I now believe that was one of my problems. Any organ that is not used can become diseased. If you are not a vegetarian, you may still be forming stones, but you would probably have a worse problem if you eliminated fats from your diet.
I believe there are healthy fats and unhealthy fats. Healthy fats are Coconut oil, Palm oil, Butter and Olive oil. Unhealthy fats are soybean oil, canola oil, and most of the seed oils. These seed oils, especially when heated, oxidize. Oxidized fats have to be one of the major "foundations" to the formation of gall stones. "Getting an oil change" as Dr. Bruce Fife says, is imperative. Coconut oil is the most important of all these oils, second would be butter and natural palm oil. Coconut oil will help to eliminate pathogens and toxins from the body.
Many people, especially type A people, have low digestive enzymes. They are not digesting their food properly. Somehow, it seems eating probiotic foods is key for these people. Make your own cultured vegetables, make cultured milk products, or whatever, but get good flora into your gut. The healing of your gut, the cleansing of parasites and pathogens, and the establishment of good flora is vitally important.
Eat a predominately alkaline diet. This means lots of fruits and vegetables, in addition to raw milk, eggs, and healthy meats and whole grains. These latter foods should make up only about 20% of your diet. People who have medical conditions such as heart disease, diabetes, gallstones, kidney stones, cancer, strokes, etc., all have lower urine and salivary pH's. The body does not run as efficiently, minerals are forced to leach out of the bones and health fails.
These are the things I have done. Good fats, good flora and alkaline foods; and the gall stones have not come back.
How do I cleanse Gallstones from my body?
Download a printable version of the Gallbladder Cleanse in a "pdf" format, which will open with Adobe Reader.
Doing a liver flush will flush out toxins and stones from your liver and gall bladder. Prior to doing the Liver Flush you cannot eat any fat for 24 hours. So no Coconut Oil no dips or dressing, no meat, nothing with fat in it.
You may eat fruit and vegetables with no dips or sauces, but I would recommend not eating anything after 2:00 PM.
At 6:00 PM: Add 1 Tablespoon of Epsom salt to an 8 oz. glass of water and drink. The colder the water the easier it is to drink. Some people say it is easier to drink it through a straw. To me it tastes very metallic. Drink it fast and get it over with!
8:00 PM: Repeat the Epsom salt and water drink listed above (see the directions at 6:00 PM).
Now do all your "bedroom chores" such as brushing your teeth, going to the bathroom, showering or anything you want to do prior to retiring.
10:00 PM: Add 1/2 cup of freshly squeezed lemon juice to 1/2 cup of extra virgin olive oil. Shake thoroughly. Drink and immediately go to bed. Lay on your right side for a while with your knees tucked if you can (fetal position). Stay in bed as long as possible. Sleeping all night is ideal. Of course you will not always stay on your right side. That is fine.
In the morning: Repeat the Epsom salt and water drink listed at 6:00 PM.
You can also repeat the entire process for one more day.
You will have diarrhea sometime during the day after your flush. Do not plan on going anywhere. If you look in the stool you may notice the stones. Some people do not notice them until afternoon and for others it is the next day. Still others notice them in the morning just after they wake up. If you place a colander in your toilet prior to your bowel movement, you can catch the stones and actually see what has been flushed out of your system.
Gallstones in a colander
There seems to be a correlation between how full your gall bladder is and how long it takes to see the stones. My first time I did not see any stones until 4:00 PM that second day. But the next flush I did I see them right away. If your gallbladder is full you may only pass a few stones the first time you do this. A second flush may bring out hundreds and a third flush could bring out over a thousand.
The stones can be coated with fecal material so you may not notice them. They can be like small crescent moons, they can be large, blue green and "fuzzy", they can be like little pebbles and anywhere from blue-green to tan in color. I believe how "freshly made" the stones are, and how full your gall bladder is determines what you see.
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April 12 2006, 6:02 PM
I never knew much about gall stones and my goodness-passing hundreds? Thousands?! I wonder would that be really painfull?
Great article by the way Snowflake!
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Snowflake
April 12 2006, 8:35 PM
Hi Snowlfake, I know you have a lot of stuff there arleady, I just thought I would let you know about the cleanse I did, it is just a potion I bought online but I didn't have any bad effects from it and it combines lots of good herbs that cleanse your liver and kidneys. I also liked that it uses organic herbs.
The minimum recommended time for doing the cleanse is 2 weeks though, for a proper cleanse it is 4, so you would have to take it for a while if you wanted to use it.
I also know that you have had trouble with the milk thistle but I would think that the dosage won't be very high in the drops so I would think it would be ok for you.
I really liked it because I got SO confused looking at all those different ways that can cleanse your body, and those home made recipes really creeped me out. This I just ordered and took three times a day and I felt great with it.
http://www.theorganicpharmacy.com/product4.php?product_ID=206&product_sub_group_ID=33&product_group_ID=12
Take care and good luck with your cleanse and I hope all works out well for you,
Lisa
April 12 2006 at 12:58 PM Snowflake (Login GoldSnowflake)
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This is new to me. Been searching and the more I read the more overwhelming it seems. Does anyone have detox, cleanse routines that you have tried and liked. I am getting very confused and very frustrated in trying to do whats right for me. Really wanted to do a cleanse before I started on herbs fennel and saw palmetto. Milk thisltle lowers blood sugars but is not quite as bad as fenugreek was for me. Really need advice on this one. Thanx.
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Snowflake
April 12 2006, 4:15 PM
hi I found this interesting and thought I would pass it on. This may be a "genteler" way to detox, since you seem to be so sensitive to alot of these herbs:
Epsom salts for detox
Another simple way to draw toxins out of the body is to take a hot epsom salt bath. Hot water draws toxins out of the body to the skins surface, and while the water cools it pulls toxins from the skin, according to Naturopath Dr. Hazel Parcells. When magnesium sulfate (epsom salt) is absorbed through the skin in a bath, it helps to draw toxins from the body, reduce swelling and relax muscles.
Epsom salts are named for the mineral rich waters of Epsom, England, where they were known at least as far back as Shakespeare's day.
Epsom Salt Detox Bath Recipe
1 cup epsom salts
handful of sea salt
2 tablespoons of bath oil
Pour the ingredients into the tub while the tub is filling.
Caution: Do not take hot baths if you have high blood pressure, heart, diabetic or kidney troubles.
Epsom Salt Scrub Recipe
Massage a handful of epsom salts, mixed with 1 tablespoon of bath oil or olive oil, over wet skin to cleanse, exfoliate and soften the rough spots. Rinse well.
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Thanks Sunset.
April 12 2006, 4:29 PM
yey, the one detox I found had epsom salts too but you take it internally with fruit juice and olive oil. Do a google search under "liver flushes". They show pictures of the stones people passed. amazing. Anyway thinking along this line of detox. Apparently it helps get rid of ALOT of daily problems we encounter with our health. If I am going to detox might as well do it right and start from the beginning. Thanks for do the research.
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April 12 2006, 4:39 PM
glad you found it helpfull.
I thought it was really neat that a hot bath and some of this stuff can detox and I would think it would be much gentler on the body. Some detox kits can make people really sick and weak. Thats one reson I will avoid those. I also read that some of those kits can rid the body of toxins so much and also rid you of good things the body DOES need.
When its time for my break I am not real sure what I will do. I take red clover and it purifies the blood, and milk thistle is good for protecting the liver. SO really I dont know what I plan to do yet.
I do like this idea that I found and pasted for you very much, so perhaps I can give it a try when the time comes.
Good luck with all of this "before hand" detox stuff!
Snowflake
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How about just fruit and veg and juice??
April 12 2006, 4:46 PM
For a 48 hour break, with just fruits and vegs and juices. You would be breaking from herbs for 2 days and the food and juices would help clean you out while your waiting to start herbs. Flax seed is good for detox too. No Sugar. Just am idea.
Sunset
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Re: Does Anyone have detox or Cleanse routines????
April 12 2006, 4:51 PM
yes there are many "less potent" ways to detox.
Drinking cranberry juice and water will help flush your kindeys.
Sunset
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cleansing herbs
April 12 2006, 5:28 PM
CLEANSING HERBS
Garlic--blood cleanser, lowers blood fats, natural antibiotic
Red clover blossoms--blood cleanser, good during convalescence and healing
Echinacea--lymph cleanser, improves lymphocyte and phagocyte actions
Dandelion root--liver and blood cleanser, diuretic, filters toxins, a tonic
Chaparral--strong blood cleanser, with possibilities for use in cancer therapy
Cayenne pepper--blood purifier, increases fluid elimination and sweat
Ginger root--stimulates circulation and sweating
Licorice root--"great detoxifier," biochemical balancer, mild laxative
Yellow dock root--skin, blood, and liver cleanser, contains vitamin C and iron
Burdock root--skin and blood cleanser, diuretic and diaphoretic, improves liver function, antibacterial and antifungal properties
Sarsaparilla root--blood and lymph cleanser, contains saponins, which reduce microbes and toxins
Prickly ash bark--good for nerves and joints, anti-infectious
Oregon grape root--skin and colon cleanser, blood purifier, liver stimulant
Parsley leaf--diuretic, flushes kidneys
Goldenseal root--blood, liver, kidney, and skin cleanser, stimulates detoxification
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April 12 2006, 5:33 PM
WoW, Sunset where do you find all this stuff and so fast tooooo. Thats great info, THANKS..
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hey Snowflake
April 12 2006, 5:34 PM
I found this web site that talks about practically EVERYTHING to do with detoxing the body. You are right, fruit and vegis do help detox, that site lets you know how to do it. If the article wasnt so long I would cut and paste it (maybe I could cut & paste the most important points and info on the general recource page)
Any how if you are interested the link is: http://www.healthy.net/scr/article.asp?ID=1558
~It also talks about saunas and stuff helping detox. Apparently when you sweat it rids your body of toxins (I had no clue!) It talks about foods that detox and what foods to avoid. Tips on when/how to detox. I found it very interesting and helpfull so maybe I will cut& paste a few key points of info from it and paste it on this forum.
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Re: Does Anyone have detox or Cleanse routines????
April 12 2006, 5:54 PM
Your very welcome Snowflake. I just typed into my search thing " list of herbs that detoxify the body" and I found that list.
I am glad I could help you and maybe some others too!Snowflake
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Did'nt know if I could cut and Paste, but here it is.
April 12 2006, 5:54 PM
Flushing the Gallbladder/Cleansing the Liver
What is the Gallbladder? What is its purpose?
The Gallbladder is a sack that is supposed to hold a liquid called bile. Bile is actually bile salts. Bile Salts are made by the liver to aid in the digestion of fats and held in the gallbladder until needed for digestion. When you eat food that contains fat, the gallbladder contracts, sending the bile salts into the small intestine. There they help to emulsify the fats. This means they work like a soap to draw the fats (non-polar molecules) into the aqueous (water/polar) solutions of the small intestine.
You know how water and oil do not mix? They want to separate as in Italian dressing. Water is made of polar molecules and fats are non-polar. Bile salts act like dishwashing liquid or soaps. These types of substances are called emulsifiers. They have one polar end and one non-polar end. One end of the molecule "dissolves" in the water and one end of the molecule "dissolves" in the oil. So the emulsifier will causes the oil and water mixture to become one solution and not separate.
Once the bile emulsifies the fats, enzymes like lipase (which are polar/water based) are able to break the triglycerides down (digest them). The digested fats are then either used for energy or go into fat storage.
What are Gallstones?
Gallstones are stones that can be found in the Gallbladder.
Here is what we know for sure: Gallstones are chiefly composed of cholesterol, calcium salts, and bile pigments. They also contain some proteins. They are also called biliary calculi and biliary stones.
If I have lots of Gallstones, where is the pain?
First of all, people may have gallstones and not feel any pain. They just do not have enough stones to cause them problems. However, when the number of stones in your gallbladder becomes excessive, you will experience pain. The main pain is usually a dull ache under the shoulder blade, usually the right shoulder blade. Sometimes the pain runs through the body from the front to the back of the chest. Sometimes it radiates around the right side. By the time you are experiencing pain you probably have thousands of stones. If you do not have a lot of stones and you are experiencing pain then the gallbladder is becoming diseased. Either way, you need to flush it. Cleansing out the stones and toxins will allow it to recover and you will become pain free.
How are Gallstones formed?
Some people feel the stones actually form in the Gallbladder from the liquids stored there. The belief here is that, just like in chemistry lab, when you add different substances into a "test tube" or in this case the gall bladder, chemical bonding takes place, creating a precipitate. This is plausible, and could explain why, once people have their gall bladders out they no longer have a problem with stones. People who believe this way, usually think the pain from the stones is caused by these stones getting stuck in the bile duct. They can then say there are no stones because there is never any pain again. When the gallbladder is removed the duct that goes from the liver to the gallbladder is linked up with the bile duct which goes from the gallbladder to the small intestine. So, they believe, since this "tube" never has any more "stuck" stones and therefore no more pain, there must be no more stones.
Interestingly, plaque that forms in the arteries (causing atherosclerosis), which leads to heart disease/heart attacks, is also made up of cholesterol, calcium salts along with other things normally found in the blood stream. In the arteries my personal belief is that the cholesterol is our friend. Upon examination of the artery that contains plaque there is micro fractures (cuts) on the lining of the artery and the plaque that forms I believe is an "arterial scab". It contains cholesterol, calcium, cells similar to those that line the wall of the artery, some proteins, etc. This material is very similar to a scab. My personal feeling is that there is inflammation and damage being done to the arterial wall and friendly cholesterol along with other components makes a scab to protect the damaged arterial wall. If this did not happen, you would have more and more damage and the artery would burst under the pressure of the pumped blood. This scab is actually protecting your life, or at least prolonging it.
This is why you can "dissolve" the plaque and reverse heart disease with natural methods. And this is why the disease continues when surgical procedures are the only course a person takes. Both insulin and homocystene contribute to heart disease. Both of these substances increase inflammation in the body. They are both a sign of poor nutrition, poor diet, and failing health.
I can't help but believe that cholesterol is not a "bad guy" when it comes to gallstones either. Blood cholesterol levels include such substances in the body as estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone, they include Vitamin D, adrenal hormones such as DHEA, cortical steroids, human growth hormone, T3 and T4 (hormones made by the thyroid gland), hormones that comes from the pineal, thymus, hypothyroid, and other glands. These biochemicals are vital for life. The liver makes most of the cholesterol found in our bodies. If we eat cholesterol only about 50% of it is actually digested and absorbed into our bodies. This just means that our liver will make less. There has been a lot of bad press concerning cholesterol. I refuse to believe that because it is present, it is the bad guy.
The cholesterol lowering drugs actually inhibit the liver from doing its job. Have you looked at the warnings for the statin drugs? Most of them concern the liver. These drugs are very hard on the liver. Cholesterol is your friend. Calcium is the most important mineral in your body. Just because gallstones are made up of cholesterol, calcium, and protein, does not mean they are necessarily bad or that you should eliminate food that contains them from your diet.
Did you know you can dissolve Gallstones too?
I have seen people do it with apple juice fasting and with herbs (such as Queen of the Meadow Root, Hydrangea Root and Marshmallow Root) that dissolve stones like kidney stones, gall stones and crystals in the joints that cause arthritis and gout, etc. This takes time, but it does work.
So what is the cause of Gallstones?
Some people do not ever develop gallstones. Others develop thousands of stones. This applies to husbands and wives who live side by side for 30 years eating the exact same food!! That has lead some medical professionals to believe there must be a hereditary link. The problem is that there is a hit and miss and if you go back far enough (and you do not have to go too far) there will be no history of gallstones. In addition, there are strong links between heart disease, type II diabetes, gingivitis and gallstones. You are probably asking, "How can these all be linked together?" Okay, 80% of diabetics die from a heart attack. Gingivitis is very, very high among people who have heart disease, diabetes and cancer. People in this category tend to gain their weight in the stomach and are labeled overweight. This group of people also tends to have their gallbladders out approximately 10 years before the have a heart attack.
Note: You are now reading my ideas only. I am not a doctor, just a friend who researches and meditates on things. I am throwing out my ideas for you to think about. Your health is yours, your body is yours. You need to research everything and make your own decisions as to what you think the best things are for you to do. Please check out everything I say. Make your own decisions.
When I worked in a hospital in Dallas, I use to do the cross matching of blood for open heart surgeries. They did 6 surgeries each day. Over the days and weeks I became distressed by the fact that 98% of the people having open heart surgery were people with A+ blood types. I would check out my antisera (typing serum) and run controls every night, and sometimes recheck my patients because the results baffled me. On the nights I was not there someone else would cross-match those units of blood for the surgeries. I looked back at their work. It correlated with mine. You see about 38% of the population is O+ and about 34% is A+ (Only 9% is B+). Therefore, I should have had about half A+ and half O+ right? But I didn't. I worked there for a year and only had a handful of O blood types who underwent open heart surgery and possibly 2 B blood types. What does this mean? Well it means there is something to the Blood Type Diet and the Eat Right for Your Type books. I don't agree with everything in there, but I do know there is some truth to it.
My father was classic for the standard person fitting this "mold". He came from a family that had problems with diabetes, though he never was diagnosed with it. I believe in retrospect that he definitely had insulin resistance, and therefore high insulin levels, but he maintained a healthy pancreas. My father had severe gallbladder problems when he was in his 30's and had his gallbladder surgically removed. In those days when they operated on you to remove the gallbladder the incision went from the front all the way around the body to the back. Recovery took weeks. Dressings had to be changed daily and the surgical recovery was almost worse than the gallbladder attacks. In his late 40's (10 years later) he was surprised at how little energy he had. He often declared that old age was creeping up on him. Dad had a "tummy" on him though he was not grossly overweight. Though incredibly active in his youth, he had a desk job as an mechanical engineer to provide for his family. Physical activity amounted to playing with his children, mowing the yard and taking walks. Having been married to my mother (who is an O+ blood type) for 25 years and eating the same food as she did, my mother's energy never seemed to wane, yet his did. He would mow the front yard one day and several days later he would mow the back yard. He would have to take breaks while mowing because it would be so exhausting. In hind sight I can also tell you he had those creases in his ear lobes. Every single person I have met who has had a heart attack has had those creases.
At 51 years of age my father was playing with my first born son and experienced pain in his right arm. He left him on the couch and went to the bathroom. He came back, still experiencing pain and then collapsed. I was there and did CPR on him until the ambulance arrived. Everything was done for him that could possibly be done, but his heart never restarted and he was gone. My mother, who is an O blood type, still continues to eat the same foods and seems to have none of the same symptoms. It has been 18 years since dad passed away and she is still going strong.
All the signs were there for my father, but I just did not see them.
Today I am approaching the age my father died at. A few years ago I did a gall bladder cleanse. I passed thousands of stones. I tend to gain my weight in the exact same spot - the tummy. I, also am A+, just like him. So I have a keen interest in knowing what to do and how to avoid getting gallstones.
After my first set of cleansings about 1 year later I experienced gall bladder pain again. So I did another series of cleansings. I realized then that if I did not change things, I would be headed for a heart attack, and would have to continually purge stones. The following is what I have done. It has been several years and the gallstone pain has not come back. I do not know that I have the complete answer, but I believe I have come up with at least a partial answer.
I decided that one of the reasons I had developed gallstones was because my gallbladder had not be emptying fully. For several years prior to the pain I had been on a low fat/vegetarian diet. I now believe that was one of my problems. Any organ that is not used can become diseased. If you are not a vegetarian, you may still be forming stones, but you would probably have a worse problem if you eliminated fats from your diet.
I believe there are healthy fats and unhealthy fats. Healthy fats are Coconut oil, Palm oil, Butter and Olive oil. Unhealthy fats are soybean oil, canola oil, and most of the seed oils. These seed oils, especially when heated, oxidize. Oxidized fats have to be one of the major "foundations" to the formation of gall stones. "Getting an oil change" as Dr. Bruce Fife says, is imperative. Coconut oil is the most important of all these oils, second would be butter and natural palm oil. Coconut oil will help to eliminate pathogens and toxins from the body.
Many people, especially type A people, have low digestive enzymes. They are not digesting their food properly. Somehow, it seems eating probiotic foods is key for these people. Make your own cultured vegetables, make cultured milk products, or whatever, but get good flora into your gut. The healing of your gut, the cleansing of parasites and pathogens, and the establishment of good flora is vitally important.
Eat a predominately alkaline diet. This means lots of fruits and vegetables, in addition to raw milk, eggs, and healthy meats and whole grains. These latter foods should make up only about 20% of your diet. People who have medical conditions such as heart disease, diabetes, gallstones, kidney stones, cancer, strokes, etc., all have lower urine and salivary pH's. The body does not run as efficiently, minerals are forced to leach out of the bones and health fails.
These are the things I have done. Good fats, good flora and alkaline foods; and the gall stones have not come back.
How do I cleanse Gallstones from my body?
Download a printable version of the Gallbladder Cleanse in a "pdf" format, which will open with Adobe Reader.
Doing a liver flush will flush out toxins and stones from your liver and gall bladder. Prior to doing the Liver Flush you cannot eat any fat for 24 hours. So no Coconut Oil no dips or dressing, no meat, nothing with fat in it.
You may eat fruit and vegetables with no dips or sauces, but I would recommend not eating anything after 2:00 PM.
At 6:00 PM: Add 1 Tablespoon of Epsom salt to an 8 oz. glass of water and drink. The colder the water the easier it is to drink. Some people say it is easier to drink it through a straw. To me it tastes very metallic. Drink it fast and get it over with!
8:00 PM: Repeat the Epsom salt and water drink listed above (see the directions at 6:00 PM).
Now do all your "bedroom chores" such as brushing your teeth, going to the bathroom, showering or anything you want to do prior to retiring.
10:00 PM: Add 1/2 cup of freshly squeezed lemon juice to 1/2 cup of extra virgin olive oil. Shake thoroughly. Drink and immediately go to bed. Lay on your right side for a while with your knees tucked if you can (fetal position). Stay in bed as long as possible. Sleeping all night is ideal. Of course you will not always stay on your right side. That is fine.
In the morning: Repeat the Epsom salt and water drink listed at 6:00 PM.
You can also repeat the entire process for one more day.
You will have diarrhea sometime during the day after your flush. Do not plan on going anywhere. If you look in the stool you may notice the stones. Some people do not notice them until afternoon and for others it is the next day. Still others notice them in the morning just after they wake up. If you place a colander in your toilet prior to your bowel movement, you can catch the stones and actually see what has been flushed out of your system.
Gallstones in a colander
There seems to be a correlation between how full your gall bladder is and how long it takes to see the stones. My first time I did not see any stones until 4:00 PM that second day. But the next flush I did I see them right away. If your gallbladder is full you may only pass a few stones the first time you do this. A second flush may bring out hundreds and a third flush could bring out over a thousand.
The stones can be coated with fecal material so you may not notice them. They can be like small crescent moons, they can be large, blue green and "fuzzy", they can be like little pebbles and anywhere from blue-green to tan in color. I believe how "freshly made" the stones are, and how full your gall bladder is determines what you see.
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wow
April 12 2006, 6:02 PM
I never knew much about gall stones and my goodness-passing hundreds? Thousands?! I wonder would that be really painfull?
Great article by the way Snowflake!
Lisa
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Snowflake
April 12 2006, 8:35 PM
Hi Snowlfake, I know you have a lot of stuff there arleady, I just thought I would let you know about the cleanse I did, it is just a potion I bought online but I didn't have any bad effects from it and it combines lots of good herbs that cleanse your liver and kidneys. I also liked that it uses organic herbs.
The minimum recommended time for doing the cleanse is 2 weeks though, for a proper cleanse it is 4, so you would have to take it for a while if you wanted to use it.
I also know that you have had trouble with the milk thistle but I would think that the dosage won't be very high in the drops so I would think it would be ok for you.
I really liked it because I got SO confused looking at all those different ways that can cleanse your body, and those home made recipes really creeped me out. This I just ordered and took three times a day and I felt great with it.
http://www.theorganicpharmacy.com/product4.php?product_ID=206&product_sub_group_ID=33&product_group_ID=12
Take care and good luck with your cleanse and I hope all works out well for you,
Lisa