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anyone try FLAT2FAB program
May 6 2008 at 1:09 AM holly (Login hollyrach)
I've been doing more research on NBE and came across the flat to fab program. It is $27 to purchase the complete book, but I read a lot of what was on the site and the free downloads. Just curious if anyone has tried this specific program and if they saw results. It seems similar to all of the things discussed here. I've just recently started with massage with herbal extract. I would like to increase my program at some point, but have a very sensitive system, so I need to go slowly. Also, she suggests a BMI of at least 19 to see results and I am at 18. Is that something that would make a significant difference?
Hopeful88
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Re: anyone try FLAT2FAB program
May 6 2008, 4:42 AM
This has been talked about many times.
Beth
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Re: anyone try FLAT2FAB program
May 6 2008, 4:50 AM
Just so you know, she ended up getting breast implants and the book may be a little outdated now, but all the same good luck.
Sally Anne
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Re: anyone try FLAT2FAB program
May 6 2008, 8:14 AM
I don't think there's anything in the book that you can't find out from reading this forum.
Moon
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Re: anyone try FLAT2FAB program
May 6 2008, 11:00 AM
I do think the book is quite outdated. NBE is constantly developing and lots of new information and approaches have become prominent since her book got out. I believe you can find better information on this forum than in that book. She did after all just gather the info that was available at the time on a similar forum and publihed it in a book.
holly
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thanks for the responses
May 6 2008, 2:55 PM
What I did read all seemed like similar info, so I will stick to what I've been reading here. Any thoughts on my low BMI index being a possible hinderance to the program?
Jenn
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Re: anyone try FLAT2FAB program
May 10 2008, 5:10 AM
I used it to start off, but when i followed hers to a T, it didnt work for me, personally. I still use the book as a reference along with this website, but like others said, theres not much in the book that hasnt been said here. i wouldnt waste your $27 and i'd use that on herbs instead.
and for the low BMI... if you want to be as thin as you are, i would just stick with that and just try a lot harder with the NBE. it might take a little longer... i heard that breast growth happens faster when there is more fat [estrogen and fat are a good mix]... but if you're going to want to lose the weight anyway, i would just stay how you are. it shouldnt be too much of an issue... but i dont know for sure.
Lillith
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I'm following the routine
May 11 2008, 7:46 PM
Hi holly
I agree with Jenn. But if you could live with it, try to putting on a little waight, try working out, that way you can controll it better.If not just start with a routine and see what happens, maybee you'll have good results without gaining waight,because every body is different
Well I'm(I'm 19years old and BMI of 19) following the guidlines of the flat2fab.I started 3.1/2 month ago and had experienced some positiv effects from the herbs(acne reduce, no pains in the breast). I din't actually feel growing pains but itching nipples.
Before I stared had a measles for 3 weeks wich made me loose 4 kilos. After that I found my breasts had shrunk from A to allmost AA. Straingt after that I started the f2f and put a good 1 kilo back on,wich is totally ok.Today I mesured and I gained something around 2cm and 2.5cm wich I can't really see because I've still got this picture of the quite full A I had before the illness.But I feel the fullness,and hard parts in my breasts seem to have gone much softer.However I'm very very happy and gratefull to have results.
To the bad effects of the herbs: Since 3 days I've been very very over emotional.
Alltough my light acne on my back disapeard I got little spots on my forhead(wich I last had when I was a teenager)but they aren't bothering me.And I smell of herbs specially when I sweat(my boyfriend relized the second day, but is very understanding), I can controll the smell because I usually shower twice a day and allways use deo and parfume.And I never use fenugreek in the daytime and don't use herb-extracts to massage when I'm spending time with my boyfriend, only normal natural-lotion.
It seems many women here aren't specially positiv when It comes to f2f. But alltough I find this forum great I must say I am glad to have had a well structured and clear gide. Of corse it isn't a good adverisment to do breastsurgery after writing such a book, but thats her desision and doing breast surgery with an AA sometimes isn't even possible and it will allsow look alot much better and natural with a B. Allsow I found it was well worth the money,because 30dollars is a perfectly normal price for a book and she did invest time an effort to wirte it and it's ok to pay someting for that clear information.
btw: I use Greenbush Herbs and Extracts and a high quality natural lotion(because herbs have difficulties getting trough with a nomal lotion, I got told by the chemist)
Good luck to everyone
mysteryrose
(Login mysteryrose)
Re: anyone try FLAT2FAB program
May 13 2008, 4:51 PM
I've reading through this forum for a while (I'm new) and from what I've gathered the F2F program seems to have a theory which conflicts with the views here?
For eg the F2F (I haven't read the whole book just the 3 free chapters and stuff from here about it) says that even if you are estrogen dominant the estrogenic herbs balance your estrogen levels cos they produce the same effect as estrogen and so your body's own production of estrogen decreases.
But on the forum I've come across opinions that if you are estrogen dominant then you should stear clear of esrogenic herbs..?
I'm a little confuesed about this can anyone clarify?
and Lillith does the book go into detail about balancing hormones if you have signs for dominance for one over the other or imbalance?
Lillith
(Login Lillith19)
hormones
May 14 2008, 4:49 PM
She talkes over a few pages about findingout wich hormone you are more dominant and what's to be done. She doen't say anything about not taking estrogenic herbs as far as I see she speaks more of Progesteron cream, milkthistle and avoiding secondhand hormons and toxins in nonorganic foods.
(puh my bad grammer...Xo)
May 6 2008 at 1:09 AM holly (Login hollyrach)
I've been doing more research on NBE and came across the flat to fab program. It is $27 to purchase the complete book, but I read a lot of what was on the site and the free downloads. Just curious if anyone has tried this specific program and if they saw results. It seems similar to all of the things discussed here. I've just recently started with massage with herbal extract. I would like to increase my program at some point, but have a very sensitive system, so I need to go slowly. Also, she suggests a BMI of at least 19 to see results and I am at 18. Is that something that would make a significant difference?
Hopeful88
(Login Hopeful88)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: anyone try FLAT2FAB program
May 6 2008, 4:42 AM
This has been talked about many times.
Beth
(Login Boobsrock4life)
Re: anyone try FLAT2FAB program
May 6 2008, 4:50 AM
Just so you know, she ended up getting breast implants and the book may be a little outdated now, but all the same good luck.
Sally Anne
(Login sally.anne)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: anyone try FLAT2FAB program
May 6 2008, 8:14 AM
I don't think there's anything in the book that you can't find out from reading this forum.
Moon
(Login -Moon-)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: anyone try FLAT2FAB program
May 6 2008, 11:00 AM
I do think the book is quite outdated. NBE is constantly developing and lots of new information and approaches have become prominent since her book got out. I believe you can find better information on this forum than in that book. She did after all just gather the info that was available at the time on a similar forum and publihed it in a book.
holly
(Login hollyrach)
thanks for the responses
May 6 2008, 2:55 PM
What I did read all seemed like similar info, so I will stick to what I've been reading here. Any thoughts on my low BMI index being a possible hinderance to the program?
Jenn
(Login JennMJ)
Re: anyone try FLAT2FAB program
May 10 2008, 5:10 AM
I used it to start off, but when i followed hers to a T, it didnt work for me, personally. I still use the book as a reference along with this website, but like others said, theres not much in the book that hasnt been said here. i wouldnt waste your $27 and i'd use that on herbs instead.
and for the low BMI... if you want to be as thin as you are, i would just stick with that and just try a lot harder with the NBE. it might take a little longer... i heard that breast growth happens faster when there is more fat [estrogen and fat are a good mix]... but if you're going to want to lose the weight anyway, i would just stay how you are. it shouldnt be too much of an issue... but i dont know for sure.
Lillith
(Login Lillith19)
I'm following the routine
May 11 2008, 7:46 PM
Hi holly
I agree with Jenn. But if you could live with it, try to putting on a little waight, try working out, that way you can controll it better.If not just start with a routine and see what happens, maybee you'll have good results without gaining waight,because every body is different
Well I'm(I'm 19years old and BMI of 19) following the guidlines of the flat2fab.I started 3.1/2 month ago and had experienced some positiv effects from the herbs(acne reduce, no pains in the breast). I din't actually feel growing pains but itching nipples.
Before I stared had a measles for 3 weeks wich made me loose 4 kilos. After that I found my breasts had shrunk from A to allmost AA. Straingt after that I started the f2f and put a good 1 kilo back on,wich is totally ok.Today I mesured and I gained something around 2cm and 2.5cm wich I can't really see because I've still got this picture of the quite full A I had before the illness.But I feel the fullness,and hard parts in my breasts seem to have gone much softer.However I'm very very happy and gratefull to have results.
To the bad effects of the herbs: Since 3 days I've been very very over emotional.
Alltough my light acne on my back disapeard I got little spots on my forhead(wich I last had when I was a teenager)but they aren't bothering me.And I smell of herbs specially when I sweat(my boyfriend relized the second day, but is very understanding), I can controll the smell because I usually shower twice a day and allways use deo and parfume.And I never use fenugreek in the daytime and don't use herb-extracts to massage when I'm spending time with my boyfriend, only normal natural-lotion.
It seems many women here aren't specially positiv when It comes to f2f. But alltough I find this forum great I must say I am glad to have had a well structured and clear gide. Of corse it isn't a good adverisment to do breastsurgery after writing such a book, but thats her desision and doing breast surgery with an AA sometimes isn't even possible and it will allsow look alot much better and natural with a B. Allsow I found it was well worth the money,because 30dollars is a perfectly normal price for a book and she did invest time an effort to wirte it and it's ok to pay someting for that clear information.
btw: I use Greenbush Herbs and Extracts and a high quality natural lotion(because herbs have difficulties getting trough with a nomal lotion, I got told by the chemist)
Good luck to everyone
mysteryrose
(Login mysteryrose)
Re: anyone try FLAT2FAB program
May 13 2008, 4:51 PM
I've reading through this forum for a while (I'm new) and from what I've gathered the F2F program seems to have a theory which conflicts with the views here?
For eg the F2F (I haven't read the whole book just the 3 free chapters and stuff from here about it) says that even if you are estrogen dominant the estrogenic herbs balance your estrogen levels cos they produce the same effect as estrogen and so your body's own production of estrogen decreases.
But on the forum I've come across opinions that if you are estrogen dominant then you should stear clear of esrogenic herbs..?
I'm a little confuesed about this can anyone clarify?
and Lillith does the book go into detail about balancing hormones if you have signs for dominance for one over the other or imbalance?
Lillith
(Login Lillith19)
hormones
May 14 2008, 4:49 PM
She talkes over a few pages about findingout wich hormone you are more dominant and what's to be done. She doen't say anything about not taking estrogenic herbs as far as I see she speaks more of Progesteron cream, milkthistle and avoiding secondhand hormons and toxins in nonorganic foods.
(puh my bad grammer...Xo)