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ALARM: Mineral oil
April 27 2006 at 2:10 PM Helen (Login Helen_N)
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Girls,
I've realised that my Palmer's cocoa butter formula (tub) contains "Paraffinum Liquidum" or Mineral Oil... in fact it is the 2nd(!) in the list of ingredients, right after Cocoa extract (1st), which possibly means it's also a relatively big quantity of it... Cocoa seed butter is the 4th ingredient in a list of 9 in total....
Gosh, now I am very worried... Here's some info I've found on mineral oil as part of lotions:
"Mineral oil (classed as a petrochemical pollutant and xenohormone) can have negative effects on HORMONES and the skins ability to BREATH, attract moisture and DETOXIFY. It can also SLOW DOWN CELL RENEWAL and be the second (after the sun) most likely cause of premature ageing. In fact sunscreens produced from mineral oil may promote skin cancer as well as colon and breast cancer. However, no cosmetic manufacturers put health warnings on their products, and in the US, the FDA does not require this information to be on packaging..."
I had heard something about pore clogging but, gosh these are serious effects that can mess with our hormones and cell renewal?!?
Wait. It kinda get...worse: I've read that "once the oil is absorbed by the skin, it is broken down by the liver and passes through the intestinal tract, it will absorb all of the fat soluble-fat vitamins found there...essentially stealing important vitamins from the body, which the body will not be able to replace, leading to nutritional deficiences... Because of these dangers, the medical community has condemned the use of mineral oil taken orally or as an ingredient in medications..."
I am thinking: forgetting about the mineral oil at first, with this extensive use of cocoa butter could I actually be contradicting what I am trying to do with my internal intake (herbs, vitamins? would it absorb all the fat-soluble "goodness" I am putting into my body?) Would this be the same for any kind of butter/oil?
And even worse with this extensive use of the palmer's formula containing mineral oil, am I applying something harmful to my skin, that could even mess with my hormones, cell renewal and put my breast in danger?
I might paste this info into the gen.reference or herbs info page,
ANYONE PLEASE HELP
Helen xx
Helen
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Hmm...
April 27 2006, 2:23 PM
A thought on the first danger (of absorbing the fat-soluble vitamins), is that
IF vitamin E indeed ENSURES that the butter/oil STAYS in the breast area then this would prevent it from getting absorbed by the body, "stealing" the fat-soluble nutrients...
But then again, by "locking" it into the breast, I have also been "locking" the mineral oil, so wouldn't this then increase the risk of harmful effects on the breast tissue and hormones?
Sorry for the panic girls, any help with this would be really appreciated xx
Sunset
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Helen
April 27 2006, 2:56 PM
I understand the worry. I really do. BUT- Mineral oil has been used on/for babys for A LONG TIME. Lots of them growing up to be healthy active toddlers and teens then adults. I would not worry so much, but I do understand the concern, there are lots of talk about it.
I have used lotions for my massage and ginseng oil as well. They ALL have mineral oil in them. My boobs DID grow and I feel fine and healthy.
The biggest reason I try to find something with out it in the ingredients is purely to get better absorbtion. (the mineral oil just alone just kinda seems to lie on the skins surface and feels a bit "greasy")
SO dont panic, I am sure your fine. If you can rub it on a babys delicate skin then I doubt it will harm ours just being one of many ingredients in the bottle.
And yes, I think it would be a very good idea to post any info you find about on the general reference page here. That would be very nice.
Jess
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 27 2006, 3:13 PM
Mineral oil isnt good Its always good to read ingredence before buying a product you will find that most lotions and oils have it in it. You can find some without it though.
I think its used as a cheep filler and makes the skin feel soft, But yes it isnt good.
I back everything that you found it isnt good and if you find a Cocoa Butter with out it maybe we should list it on here.
Boobie Blessing to everyone!
Love,
Jess
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I think its in MOST body lotions!
April 27 2006, 3:21 PM
What you found is scary. I always read ingredients to see the level of what it is that I actually want,( vitE, Aloe, CocoButter,vit.A) or whatever. Its always near the bottom of list of ingredients. that means that there is not much in lotion at all. And Mineral oil is in almost everything we buy as far as body and facial products. Most of the ingredients we don't even know WHAT they are so mineral oil is probably not the ONLY culprit. All you can do is buy the best you can and hope for the best and always take lots of internal antioxidents. Vit.E and Vit.C and Vit.A.
Kim
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 27 2006, 3:42 PM
Hi, I just wanted to add that a while ago ..I think Lisa mentioned that the Mineral Oil will case red bumps on the skins surface if your cocoa butter has mineral oil in it. Well its a fact because I broke out something awful. Was not an attractive site. I have stopped using the Palmers cream on my chest and have started using I new cream by JAMES natural products and it has no cocoa butter but does have evening primrose and vitamin e. It has no mineral oil.
I did a search at 5 different srores yesterday and found that almost all the creams with cocoa butter had mineral oil in it ..very fustrating...I am trying to find a natural cocoa butter cream and it seems that this JAmes brand has one..will let you ladies know.
Sarah L
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April 27 2006, 4:59 PM
Ive been using Palmers cocoa butter too so was a bit concerned by this.
Ive just had a look at my Body Shop body butter, the 'Coconut' one and it has a loads of ingredients most of which i have no idea what they are (if anyone wants me to list them i can) but none of them say 'mineral oil' or 'paraffinum liquidum' which i guess is a good sign. The butter is made from coconut oil and combined with cocoa butter and shea butter so i think i might switch to this for the time being. Smells wicked too!!!
Lisa xsxsxs :-)
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Yup it's scary
April 27 2006, 5:32 PM
Can you imagine WE USE THIS ON OUR BABIES!!!!!!! Johnsons BABY OIL. Helen dont be to alarmed by it though. Cause you are NOT using pure Mineral oil the cocoa butter its self breaks it all down but still not real good there really isnt that much in the coca butter but just enough to clog your pores and cause rash. that is 1 of the reasons I use it while in the shower or bath your pores expand in the steam heat. there for allowing it to flow and thins it out so it gets to where it supposed to go. rememger mineral oil IS a fatty substance is will aid the cocoa butter but it's still NOT GOOD A while back I had posted a thread about PALMERS COCOA BUTTER OIL W|VITE contains NO mineral oil and also Palmers also has a pure form of cocoa butter, if you are worried about the moneral oil try the pure for ( stick ) melt it down and add sweet almond oil or grape seed oil johaba oil virgin olive oil or even FLAX SEED OIL which is an AMINO ACID VERY GOOD FOR BOOBY GROWTH. I hope this helped and makes sense. best booby wishes Lisaxxxx
Lisa xsxsxs :-)
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oh yea
April 27 2006, 5:37 PM
There is a cocoa butter put out by Queen Helen?? I believe there is no mineral oil in it I will check into it ( Will go buy some ) and I also think you can order it of the web if you cant find it in the store I will let you all no. Lisaxxx
BJ
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 27 2006, 6:04 PM
OMG Helen that IS scary. I think I use the same Palmer's Cocoa butter as you, is it the tub? It is second in the list of ingredients of mine as well. I have been using this liberally morning and night. I also have been getting red bumps on my chest, had no idea it could be due to the mineral oil. But then again I didn't know that mineral oil was really bad for you. I think I'll just stick to WU cream for now.
Lisa xsxsxs :-)
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oh
April 27 2006, 6:19 PM
It just clogs your pore WOW that didnt sound to good either what I ment Is well what I said but the reaction of cloged pores is little red bumps. I know I posted this a while back but I dont think everybody saw it. And yes they are unsightley ichy red bumps. and hard to get rid of. unless you use rubbing alcohol VERY BAD drys out skin but works. I hope I'm not confusing you. I'm going to go through some of my old books ( from massage school ) and notes and talk to some of my freinds ( massage therapist's ) and gather up some info on this. But think about it cocoa butter and other lotions with mineral oil have been used for decades... And they are still on the market FDA approved. So I wouldnt be to alarmed about it.
Lisaxxxx
Sunset
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 27 2006, 7:38 PM
The Palmers cocoa butter OIL has NO mineral oil in it at all. for anyone whos interested.
And the oil is the same as the lotion and should still store the fat. The oil comes from the butter of the seed. It says cocoa seed butter or something like that on the ingredients.
SO if you want CB with out the mineral oil the palmers cocoa butter OIL has none in it.
~Have a Wonderful Day!~
BJ
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 27 2006, 7:47 PM
Thanks for that Sunset, I will look into the Cocoa butter oil and see if they have it at my Wal-Mart. I also want to point out that the Palmers Cocoa Butter Bust Firming Cream I found at my Wal-Mart a while back does not have any mineral oil either. I checked the ingredients on it this morning. That stuff really made me feel nice and firm and perky, but I began using the tub each time because The Bust Firming one is a gel and doesn't last too long when massaging. It absorbs pretty fast, wheras the tub felt more greasy (now I know from the mineral oil) and would last for a long time. After getting bumps on my chest and what Helen posted I will not be using the tub anymore. Unfortunately that Bust Firming Cream was the last one there when I bought it and I haven't seen it there since.
Sunset
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BJ
April 27 2006, 9:28 PM
Your welcome. I saw that "bust firming" cream you mentioned there, and man thats kinda costly for no bigger than the tube is. I can see as to how it work.
They also had this stuff called "utter cream" hehe my fiance was like "there you go honey.." hehe hes a nut!
I did pick it up and look at it it says its originally used on cows. Must help the skin from cracking or something?
I dont really know.
Cocoa butter comes in SO MANY forms, I hard time decideing what to Buy!
I REALLY like my sauve cocoa butter alot. I think when I run out of this oil I will go back to that again
I seen the solid form your talkin about and how do you use that? Do you have to melt it down?
Sarah
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April 27 2006, 10:19 PM
Hey Lisa I noticed you asked about Quene Helene. They do make Cocoa Butter lotion, I have a huge bottle of it. I noticed one of the ingredients was Lanolin Oil. Not sure if that's very similiar to mineral oil.
This is all so confusing. Just awhile ago I found this site: http://www.cosmeticscop.com/learn/article.asp?PAGETYPE=ART&REFER=SKIN&ID=47
Basically to sum it up, it says: Cosmetics-grade mineral oil and petrolatum are considered the safest, most nonirritating moisturizing ingredients ever found. Yes, they can keep air off the skin to some extent, but that's what a good antioxidant is supposed to do; they don't suffocate skin! Moreover, petrolatum and mineral oil are known for being efficacious in wound healing, and are also considered to be among the most effective moisturizing ingredients available.
I found a different site saying the mineral oil used in lotions/makeup has to meet FDA requirements and is actually a refined substance they call white mineral oil, and is safe. I'm kinda mad because I just bought the Palmers tub of it 2 days ago!
Lisa xsxsxs :-)
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 27 2006, 10:39 PM
Sarah
its not good for the skin its safe, but not good I have been studying the effects of oils for years I work with it every day in my perfession I have to know these things or I could be liable for a law suite. I dont meen to sound harsh. and lanolin is good. The best oils to use is sweet almond oil grape seed oil johaba oil coconut oil seseme oil, olive oil , but yes you are right mineral oil is safe however it DOES clog your pores, causes rashes ect. Lisaxxxxx
Lisa xsxsxs :-)
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 27 2006, 10:46 PM
Sarah use the tub there isnt enough mineral oil in it. it depends on the sensitivity of you skin test spot it somwhere on your body where the skin is thin. I dont mean to be rude but I have been trying to explain this in this thread does anybody read all the way through? or just skimming it. or do I need to be more clear on things. PALMERS COCOA BUTTER IS TOTALY SAFE TO USE UNLESS YOU HAVE SENSITIVE SKIN> LOL
if you think it will hurt your skin TEST SPOT IT!!!Like I said Im not trying to be harsh. But please read everything i wrote in this thread carefully. Lisaxxxxxx
Sabrina
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Re: The body shop
April 28 2006, 1:03 AM
they are fab!! i use the olive and the almond body butters......Smell yummy
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Formula
April 28 2006, 1:25 AM
Hello there Im new on the scene, just reading over some of the converstaions. Do you mind sharing the formula with me?
Lisa xsxsxs :-)
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Formula?????
April 28 2006, 1:27 AM
What Formula? Lisaxxx
Lisa xsxsxs :-)
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Helen
April 28 2006, 4:10 AM
Your all set dont think you have anything to worry about but I would watch out for the red bumps. not to many people was reading what I was trying to tell them or it didnt seem like it. if you have any questions about this feel free to ask. and I really hope I didnt confuse you.
Luv Lisaxxxxx
michelle03
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 28 2006, 5:39 AM
wow that article about mineral oil is scary! I just bought a huge bottle of lotion (almost 1 litre) and the third ingredient is mineral oil (after water and cocoa butter)! uh oh..
So Lisa, are you saying that it will be safe to use as long as my skin doesn't react? I found the lotion to actually work quite well and don't have any problems with it. But the article sure makes it sound terrible!
And so does this mean that it won't work well for growing boobs? I used that lotion for a week or two and haven't noticed anything.
But last night, I remembered that I have a small tub of that body shop cocoa butter with mango seed extract. I rubbed it on last night and put vit e oil on top. And I swear this morning my boobs felt bigger! But it's true, I am in that phase just before my period but... I don't know.. I think it actually worked! So maybe I'll just stick with the body shop brand instead, but it's rather expensive to buy it constantly =(
Anonymous
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 28 2006, 6:37 AM
HI michelle
It's safe there isnt really enough mineral oil to do any harm. But just watch how your skin reacts to it. little red bumps could appear from cloged pores. And that is only if you have real sensitive skin.Just never use PURE mineral oil. or use it as a carrier. Lisaxxxx
Darisha
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cocoa butter
April 28 2006, 1:07 PM
Hi guys, have just been reading through this long thread and can't understand why no-one is buying pure cocoa butter (nothing added to it). I bought a 250g solid form of cocoa butter off ebay for AU$10.00 including postage. You only need the tiniest amount. I put a bit into a small glass container and heat in the microwave for 1 min until it becomes oil and then just add whatever you want to it. I'm sure my $10 cocoa butter will probably last a year. Just a suggestion.
Darisha
Mk3
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 28 2006, 1:21 PM
I bought a small tube of pure cocoa butter at CVS for .99 cents.
I havent tried it yet because one of my kids got ahold of the bag and i cant find it anywhere,LOL!So when I find it I will use it,and if I cant find the darn thing,I'll just go buy another one.
: ) KEEP SMILIN'!
Helen
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 30 2006, 1:00 AM
Thank you so much for your replies girls! I know I shouldn't be too paranoid about this mineral oil as it has been around for so long in baby lotions and stuff, but I went out and bought another cocoa butter cream without mineral oil (from body shop), and I'm gonna be using this from now on, just to be on the safe side. In the meantime I might even order it in pure form as well...
Lisa, no hon, you are not confusing at all, on the contrary, you've made me feel relieved and re-assurred. I feel much better now!
Thanks again for all your helpful inputs girls, I really appreciate it!
Luv, Helen xx
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whew ::::::::
April 30 2006, 1:08 AM
I was a little worried about that. I'm so glad it helped. WOW it sure did get every body attention. anything to help
luv Lisaxxxx
Helen
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 30 2006, 1:44 AM
Lisa_xssxxs honey, do you think I should post this kinda scary info on mineral oil on the general reference page? In order to keep some balance though and not cause panic, do you think you could perhaps help me and add some of your re-assuring info on mineral oil and its side-effects there, if I create a relevant thread?
Thanks, and plz let me know what you think
Helen xx
Lisa xsxsxs :-)
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ya
April 30 2006, 1:58 AM
Ya I think should, And I would be more than happy to help
Just make sure that you state Its only harmful if you use it as a carrier oil or if you are using it in pure form. And if its used for example Lotions bath oils, it COULD cause your pores to clog resulting in a rase of little red bumps. Hows that sound. Hugs Lisaxxxxx
Lisa xsxsxs :-)
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 30 2006, 2:05 AM
After you post it maybe we can talk about what I should ad to it
I'll be looking some things up in the mean time. GREAT IDEA HELEN 
Lisaxxxxxxx
Helen
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Lisa_xsxsxs
April 30 2006, 2:17 AM
Hey Lis, you are also online, it's now more like a chat for us rather than a forum! hehe!
Okay, I will open a thread there soon and ask you to check it and plz add to it if you wish. Need to get some sleep now (it's 02:15 here in UK) and will do it tomorrow with a clearer head!
Keep up the happy growing!
By the way, a BIG THANK YOU for posting your pic, I bet lots of us girls (including myself) see it, connect to it and feel inspired
It is so nice to feel I am not alone in this and in fact it gives me courage to perhaps even post mine (I will definitely do it as soon as I see a noticable change on them little boobies of mine!)
Hugs & kisses & talk soon,
Helen xx
Lisa xsxsxs :-)
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 30 2006, 2:25 AM
Thanks Helen That makes me feel alot better about that pic
Have a good night Talk to you soon Hugs and kisses Lisaxxxx
Rachel
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Pure Cocoa Butter
April 30 2006, 2:40 AM
Does anyone know if you can buy pure cocoa butter (the stick form) at the health food store? And if you can, is it something that you can eat? Just curious.
jellyboobs
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yes you can buy in some shops
April 30 2006, 8:35 AM
hi racheal some health shops have it and NOi dont reccommened eating it its just fat and doesnt taste like chocolate although its used in making chocolate love jelly...
Epiphany
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Cocoa butter
April 30 2006, 9:09 AM
White chocolate is mostly cocoa butter.
Rachel
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April 30 2006, 3:25 PM
So it cocoa butter only used as a topical? In my previous post I did't mean just eating the stick of cocoa butter plain but instead using it to cook with or to smother it on toast or pancakes. I just thought that taking it internally and externally could help things along. I don't know, does that sound too crazy?
Lisa xsxsxs :-)
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hmmmmm
April 30 2006, 6:10 PM
Never thought of that Now you have my couriosity going I NOW BAD SPELLING LOL Lisaxxxxx
April 27 2006 at 2:10 PM Helen (Login Helen_N)
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Girls,
I've realised that my Palmer's cocoa butter formula (tub) contains "Paraffinum Liquidum" or Mineral Oil... in fact it is the 2nd(!) in the list of ingredients, right after Cocoa extract (1st), which possibly means it's also a relatively big quantity of it... Cocoa seed butter is the 4th ingredient in a list of 9 in total....
Gosh, now I am very worried... Here's some info I've found on mineral oil as part of lotions:
"Mineral oil (classed as a petrochemical pollutant and xenohormone) can have negative effects on HORMONES and the skins ability to BREATH, attract moisture and DETOXIFY. It can also SLOW DOWN CELL RENEWAL and be the second (after the sun) most likely cause of premature ageing. In fact sunscreens produced from mineral oil may promote skin cancer as well as colon and breast cancer. However, no cosmetic manufacturers put health warnings on their products, and in the US, the FDA does not require this information to be on packaging..."
I had heard something about pore clogging but, gosh these are serious effects that can mess with our hormones and cell renewal?!?
Wait. It kinda get...worse: I've read that "once the oil is absorbed by the skin, it is broken down by the liver and passes through the intestinal tract, it will absorb all of the fat soluble-fat vitamins found there...essentially stealing important vitamins from the body, which the body will not be able to replace, leading to nutritional deficiences... Because of these dangers, the medical community has condemned the use of mineral oil taken orally or as an ingredient in medications..."
I am thinking: forgetting about the mineral oil at first, with this extensive use of cocoa butter could I actually be contradicting what I am trying to do with my internal intake (herbs, vitamins? would it absorb all the fat-soluble "goodness" I am putting into my body?) Would this be the same for any kind of butter/oil?
And even worse with this extensive use of the palmer's formula containing mineral oil, am I applying something harmful to my skin, that could even mess with my hormones, cell renewal and put my breast in danger?
I might paste this info into the gen.reference or herbs info page,
ANYONE PLEASE HELP
Helen xx
Helen
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Hmm...
April 27 2006, 2:23 PM
A thought on the first danger (of absorbing the fat-soluble vitamins), is that
IF vitamin E indeed ENSURES that the butter/oil STAYS in the breast area then this would prevent it from getting absorbed by the body, "stealing" the fat-soluble nutrients...
But then again, by "locking" it into the breast, I have also been "locking" the mineral oil, so wouldn't this then increase the risk of harmful effects on the breast tissue and hormones?
Sorry for the panic girls, any help with this would be really appreciated xx
Sunset
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Helen
April 27 2006, 2:56 PM
I understand the worry. I really do. BUT- Mineral oil has been used on/for babys for A LONG TIME. Lots of them growing up to be healthy active toddlers and teens then adults. I would not worry so much, but I do understand the concern, there are lots of talk about it.
I have used lotions for my massage and ginseng oil as well. They ALL have mineral oil in them. My boobs DID grow and I feel fine and healthy.
The biggest reason I try to find something with out it in the ingredients is purely to get better absorbtion. (the mineral oil just alone just kinda seems to lie on the skins surface and feels a bit "greasy")
SO dont panic, I am sure your fine. If you can rub it on a babys delicate skin then I doubt it will harm ours just being one of many ingredients in the bottle.
And yes, I think it would be a very good idea to post any info you find about on the general reference page here. That would be very nice.

Jess
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 27 2006, 3:13 PM
Mineral oil isnt good Its always good to read ingredence before buying a product you will find that most lotions and oils have it in it. You can find some without it though.
I think its used as a cheep filler and makes the skin feel soft, But yes it isnt good.
I back everything that you found it isnt good and if you find a Cocoa Butter with out it maybe we should list it on here.
Boobie Blessing to everyone!
Love,
Jess
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I think its in MOST body lotions!
April 27 2006, 3:21 PM
What you found is scary. I always read ingredients to see the level of what it is that I actually want,( vitE, Aloe, CocoButter,vit.A) or whatever. Its always near the bottom of list of ingredients. that means that there is not much in lotion at all. And Mineral oil is in almost everything we buy as far as body and facial products. Most of the ingredients we don't even know WHAT they are so mineral oil is probably not the ONLY culprit. All you can do is buy the best you can and hope for the best and always take lots of internal antioxidents. Vit.E and Vit.C and Vit.A.
Kim
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 27 2006, 3:42 PM
Hi, I just wanted to add that a while ago ..I think Lisa mentioned that the Mineral Oil will case red bumps on the skins surface if your cocoa butter has mineral oil in it. Well its a fact because I broke out something awful. Was not an attractive site. I have stopped using the Palmers cream on my chest and have started using I new cream by JAMES natural products and it has no cocoa butter but does have evening primrose and vitamin e. It has no mineral oil.
I did a search at 5 different srores yesterday and found that almost all the creams with cocoa butter had mineral oil in it ..very fustrating...I am trying to find a natural cocoa butter cream and it seems that this JAmes brand has one..will let you ladies know.
Sarah L
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April 27 2006, 4:59 PM
Ive been using Palmers cocoa butter too so was a bit concerned by this.
Ive just had a look at my Body Shop body butter, the 'Coconut' one and it has a loads of ingredients most of which i have no idea what they are (if anyone wants me to list them i can) but none of them say 'mineral oil' or 'paraffinum liquidum' which i guess is a good sign. The butter is made from coconut oil and combined with cocoa butter and shea butter so i think i might switch to this for the time being. Smells wicked too!!!
Lisa xsxsxs :-)
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Yup it's scary
April 27 2006, 5:32 PM
Can you imagine WE USE THIS ON OUR BABIES!!!!!!! Johnsons BABY OIL. Helen dont be to alarmed by it though. Cause you are NOT using pure Mineral oil the cocoa butter its self breaks it all down but still not real good there really isnt that much in the coca butter but just enough to clog your pores and cause rash. that is 1 of the reasons I use it while in the shower or bath your pores expand in the steam heat. there for allowing it to flow and thins it out so it gets to where it supposed to go. rememger mineral oil IS a fatty substance is will aid the cocoa butter but it's still NOT GOOD A while back I had posted a thread about PALMERS COCOA BUTTER OIL W|VITE contains NO mineral oil and also Palmers also has a pure form of cocoa butter, if you are worried about the moneral oil try the pure for ( stick ) melt it down and add sweet almond oil or grape seed oil johaba oil virgin olive oil or even FLAX SEED OIL which is an AMINO ACID VERY GOOD FOR BOOBY GROWTH. I hope this helped and makes sense. best booby wishes Lisaxxxx
Lisa xsxsxs :-)
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oh yea
April 27 2006, 5:37 PM
There is a cocoa butter put out by Queen Helen?? I believe there is no mineral oil in it I will check into it ( Will go buy some ) and I also think you can order it of the web if you cant find it in the store I will let you all no. Lisaxxx
BJ
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 27 2006, 6:04 PM
OMG Helen that IS scary. I think I use the same Palmer's Cocoa butter as you, is it the tub? It is second in the list of ingredients of mine as well. I have been using this liberally morning and night. I also have been getting red bumps on my chest, had no idea it could be due to the mineral oil. But then again I didn't know that mineral oil was really bad for you. I think I'll just stick to WU cream for now.
Lisa xsxsxs :-)
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oh
April 27 2006, 6:19 PM
It just clogs your pore WOW that didnt sound to good either what I ment Is well what I said but the reaction of cloged pores is little red bumps. I know I posted this a while back but I dont think everybody saw it. And yes they are unsightley ichy red bumps. and hard to get rid of. unless you use rubbing alcohol VERY BAD drys out skin but works. I hope I'm not confusing you. I'm going to go through some of my old books ( from massage school ) and notes and talk to some of my freinds ( massage therapist's ) and gather up some info on this. But think about it cocoa butter and other lotions with mineral oil have been used for decades... And they are still on the market FDA approved. So I wouldnt be to alarmed about it.

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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 27 2006, 7:38 PM
The Palmers cocoa butter OIL has NO mineral oil in it at all. for anyone whos interested.
And the oil is the same as the lotion and should still store the fat. The oil comes from the butter of the seed. It says cocoa seed butter or something like that on the ingredients.
SO if you want CB with out the mineral oil the palmers cocoa butter OIL has none in it.
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 27 2006, 7:47 PM
Thanks for that Sunset, I will look into the Cocoa butter oil and see if they have it at my Wal-Mart. I also want to point out that the Palmers Cocoa Butter Bust Firming Cream I found at my Wal-Mart a while back does not have any mineral oil either. I checked the ingredients on it this morning. That stuff really made me feel nice and firm and perky, but I began using the tub each time because The Bust Firming one is a gel and doesn't last too long when massaging. It absorbs pretty fast, wheras the tub felt more greasy (now I know from the mineral oil) and would last for a long time. After getting bumps on my chest and what Helen posted I will not be using the tub anymore. Unfortunately that Bust Firming Cream was the last one there when I bought it and I haven't seen it there since.
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BJ
April 27 2006, 9:28 PM
Your welcome. I saw that "bust firming" cream you mentioned there, and man thats kinda costly for no bigger than the tube is. I can see as to how it work.
They also had this stuff called "utter cream" hehe my fiance was like "there you go honey.." hehe hes a nut!

I dont really know.
Cocoa butter comes in SO MANY forms, I hard time decideing what to Buy!
I REALLY like my sauve cocoa butter alot. I think when I run out of this oil I will go back to that again

I seen the solid form your talkin about and how do you use that? Do you have to melt it down?
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April 27 2006, 10:19 PM
Hey Lisa I noticed you asked about Quene Helene. They do make Cocoa Butter lotion, I have a huge bottle of it. I noticed one of the ingredients was Lanolin Oil. Not sure if that's very similiar to mineral oil.
This is all so confusing. Just awhile ago I found this site: http://www.cosmeticscop.com/learn/article.asp?PAGETYPE=ART&REFER=SKIN&ID=47
Basically to sum it up, it says: Cosmetics-grade mineral oil and petrolatum are considered the safest, most nonirritating moisturizing ingredients ever found. Yes, they can keep air off the skin to some extent, but that's what a good antioxidant is supposed to do; they don't suffocate skin! Moreover, petrolatum and mineral oil are known for being efficacious in wound healing, and are also considered to be among the most effective moisturizing ingredients available.
I found a different site saying the mineral oil used in lotions/makeup has to meet FDA requirements and is actually a refined substance they call white mineral oil, and is safe. I'm kinda mad because I just bought the Palmers tub of it 2 days ago!
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 27 2006, 10:39 PM
Sarah
its not good for the skin its safe, but not good I have been studying the effects of oils for years I work with it every day in my perfession I have to know these things or I could be liable for a law suite. I dont meen to sound harsh. and lanolin is good. The best oils to use is sweet almond oil grape seed oil johaba oil coconut oil seseme oil, olive oil , but yes you are right mineral oil is safe however it DOES clog your pores, causes rashes ect. Lisaxxxxx
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 27 2006, 10:46 PM
Sarah use the tub there isnt enough mineral oil in it. it depends on the sensitivity of you skin test spot it somwhere on your body where the skin is thin. I dont mean to be rude but I have been trying to explain this in this thread does anybody read all the way through? or just skimming it. or do I need to be more clear on things. PALMERS COCOA BUTTER IS TOTALY SAFE TO USE UNLESS YOU HAVE SENSITIVE SKIN> LOL
if you think it will hurt your skin TEST SPOT IT!!!Like I said Im not trying to be harsh. But please read everything i wrote in this thread carefully. Lisaxxxxxx
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April 28 2006, 1:03 AM
they are fab!! i use the olive and the almond body butters......Smell yummy

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Formula
April 28 2006, 1:25 AM
Hello there Im new on the scene, just reading over some of the converstaions. Do you mind sharing the formula with me?
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Formula?????
April 28 2006, 1:27 AM
What Formula? Lisaxxx
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Helen
April 28 2006, 4:10 AM
Your all set dont think you have anything to worry about but I would watch out for the red bumps. not to many people was reading what I was trying to tell them or it didnt seem like it. if you have any questions about this feel free to ask. and I really hope I didnt confuse you.

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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 28 2006, 5:39 AM
wow that article about mineral oil is scary! I just bought a huge bottle of lotion (almost 1 litre) and the third ingredient is mineral oil (after water and cocoa butter)! uh oh..
So Lisa, are you saying that it will be safe to use as long as my skin doesn't react? I found the lotion to actually work quite well and don't have any problems with it. But the article sure makes it sound terrible!
And so does this mean that it won't work well for growing boobs? I used that lotion for a week or two and haven't noticed anything.
But last night, I remembered that I have a small tub of that body shop cocoa butter with mango seed extract. I rubbed it on last night and put vit e oil on top. And I swear this morning my boobs felt bigger! But it's true, I am in that phase just before my period but... I don't know.. I think it actually worked! So maybe I'll just stick with the body shop brand instead, but it's rather expensive to buy it constantly =(
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 28 2006, 6:37 AM
HI michelle
It's safe there isnt really enough mineral oil to do any harm. But just watch how your skin reacts to it. little red bumps could appear from cloged pores. And that is only if you have real sensitive skin.Just never use PURE mineral oil. or use it as a carrier. Lisaxxxx
Darisha
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April 28 2006, 1:07 PM
Hi guys, have just been reading through this long thread and can't understand why no-one is buying pure cocoa butter (nothing added to it). I bought a 250g solid form of cocoa butter off ebay for AU$10.00 including postage. You only need the tiniest amount. I put a bit into a small glass container and heat in the microwave for 1 min until it becomes oil and then just add whatever you want to it. I'm sure my $10 cocoa butter will probably last a year. Just a suggestion.
Darisha
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 28 2006, 1:21 PM
I bought a small tube of pure cocoa butter at CVS for .99 cents.
I havent tried it yet because one of my kids got ahold of the bag and i cant find it anywhere,LOL!So when I find it I will use it,and if I cant find the darn thing,I'll just go buy another one.
: ) KEEP SMILIN'!
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 30 2006, 1:00 AM
Thank you so much for your replies girls! I know I shouldn't be too paranoid about this mineral oil as it has been around for so long in baby lotions and stuff, but I went out and bought another cocoa butter cream without mineral oil (from body shop), and I'm gonna be using this from now on, just to be on the safe side. In the meantime I might even order it in pure form as well...
Lisa, no hon, you are not confusing at all, on the contrary, you've made me feel relieved and re-assurred. I feel much better now!

Thanks again for all your helpful inputs girls, I really appreciate it!

Luv, Helen xx
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whew ::::::::
April 30 2006, 1:08 AM
I was a little worried about that. I'm so glad it helped. WOW it sure did get every body attention. anything to help

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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 30 2006, 1:44 AM
Lisa_xssxxs honey, do you think I should post this kinda scary info on mineral oil on the general reference page? In order to keep some balance though and not cause panic, do you think you could perhaps help me and add some of your re-assuring info on mineral oil and its side-effects there, if I create a relevant thread?
Thanks, and plz let me know what you think

Helen xx
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ya
April 30 2006, 1:58 AM
Ya I think should, And I would be more than happy to help

Lisa xsxsxs :-)
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 30 2006, 2:05 AM
After you post it maybe we can talk about what I should ad to it


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April 30 2006, 2:17 AM
Hey Lis, you are also online, it's now more like a chat for us rather than a forum! hehe!
Okay, I will open a thread there soon and ask you to check it and plz add to it if you wish. Need to get some sleep now (it's 02:15 here in UK) and will do it tomorrow with a clearer head!

Keep up the happy growing!
By the way, a BIG THANK YOU for posting your pic, I bet lots of us girls (including myself) see it, connect to it and feel inspired

Hugs & kisses & talk soon,
Helen xx
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Re: ALARM: Mineral oil
April 30 2006, 2:25 AM
Thanks Helen That makes me feel alot better about that pic
Have a good night Talk to you soon Hugs and kisses Lisaxxxx

Rachel
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Pure Cocoa Butter
April 30 2006, 2:40 AM
Does anyone know if you can buy pure cocoa butter (the stick form) at the health food store? And if you can, is it something that you can eat? Just curious.
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yes you can buy in some shops
April 30 2006, 8:35 AM
hi racheal some health shops have it and NOi dont reccommened eating it its just fat and doesnt taste like chocolate although its used in making chocolate love jelly...
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Cocoa butter
April 30 2006, 9:09 AM
White chocolate is mostly cocoa butter.
Rachel
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April 30 2006, 3:25 PM
So it cocoa butter only used as a topical? In my previous post I did't mean just eating the stick of cocoa butter plain but instead using it to cook with or to smother it on toast or pancakes. I just thought that taking it internally and externally could help things along. I don't know, does that sound too crazy?
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hmmmmm
April 30 2006, 6:10 PM
Never thought of that Now you have my couriosity going I NOW BAD SPELLING LOL Lisaxxxxx