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safety of herbal enhancement
July 29 2006 at 3:00 PM anonymous (no login)
I have been trying NBE for one month now. I came across this information and it worried me. (Breast cancer runs in my family) Is there any truth in these statements?
Phytoestrogens have a balancing effect on the body. When the estrogen levels are too low, their mild estrogenic effect raises total estrogenic activity. However, when levels are higher, they compete with estrogen at cell membrane receptor sites, and create the opposite effect. High estrogen levels, or estrogen dominance, is what many experts, like Judy Mane, nurse practitioner, feel might lead to many serious side effects that are normally associated with synthetic hormone replacement therapy (HRT). She says, Phytoestrogens may stimulate growth of breast cells, but it may also stimulate abnormal breast cells. From womens-health.health-cares.net/natural-breast-enhancement.php
The hormone estrogen, if taken in high enough doses, increases breast size by stimulating growth of breast tissue. However, it is not safe to use estrogen in this way, because when breast cells are stimulated to grow, they are more likely to turn cancerous. A woman who took enough estrogen to enlarge her breasts would greatly increase her risk of breast cancer .In any case, if a breast enhancement product were to contain a powerful phytoestrogen in sufficient quantities to actually stimulate growth of breast cells (a very big if), it would also increase the risk of breast cancer! You cant get one effect without the other. From GetContent.aspx?token=e0498803-7f62-4563-8d47-5fe33da65dd4&chunkiid=35539
Molly
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Re: safety of herbal enhancement
July 29 2006, 8:18 PM
If you read more widely you will find that the general view is that phytoestrogens protect against breast cancer. Countries that have a high rate of phytoestrogen consumption in their diets have lower rates of breast cancer and the country with the very highest natural consumption of phytoestrogens of all has the very lowest rate of breast cancer. But when women in those countries emigrate to the West and start eating typical Western diets their incidence of breast cancer rises to normal Western levels. There was also a major clinical study conducted on this subject which concluded not only that phytoestrogens provide protection against breast cancer, but that the degree of protection against braest cancer appeared to be significant.
anonymous
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Re: safety of herbal enhancement
July 29 2006, 11:26 PM
thank you!! I appreciate that information
Anonymous
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after reading this, i'm a little concerned
July 31 2006, 8:42 PM
http://www.fwhc.org/health/phytoestrogens.htm
This seems simple -- eat more phytoestrogens, be healthier -- and it is, so long as we restrict ourselves to eating plants. But when the difference between food and medicine is disregarded, when phytoestrogens are isolated and concentrated, sold to us in pills and candy bars, then the equation changes: phytoestrogens become dangerous hormones, quite capable of promoting cancer.
does anyone know if its more likely to promote cancer over a longer period of time or can it affect people who take pills for just a few months?
Molly
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Re: safety of herbal enhancement
August 1 2006, 7:48 AM
Your argument is still not relevant because not many breast enhancement products have the isolated phytoestrogens you talk about, such as soy isoflavones. In general breast enhancement products are foods, which you have said yourself are healthy. The fact that herbs are pressed into tablets or powdered and put into capsules does not mean that they suddenly become unhealthy. On the contrary, most people taking breast enhancement herbs will probably improve their overall health a great deal.
Anonymous
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Re: safety of herbal enhancement
August 1 2006, 6:59 PM
thanks for clearing that up! i feel a lot better now =)
July 29 2006 at 3:00 PM anonymous (no login)
I have been trying NBE for one month now. I came across this information and it worried me. (Breast cancer runs in my family) Is there any truth in these statements?
Phytoestrogens have a balancing effect on the body. When the estrogen levels are too low, their mild estrogenic effect raises total estrogenic activity. However, when levels are higher, they compete with estrogen at cell membrane receptor sites, and create the opposite effect. High estrogen levels, or estrogen dominance, is what many experts, like Judy Mane, nurse practitioner, feel might lead to many serious side effects that are normally associated with synthetic hormone replacement therapy (HRT). She says, Phytoestrogens may stimulate growth of breast cells, but it may also stimulate abnormal breast cells. From womens-health.health-cares.net/natural-breast-enhancement.php
The hormone estrogen, if taken in high enough doses, increases breast size by stimulating growth of breast tissue. However, it is not safe to use estrogen in this way, because when breast cells are stimulated to grow, they are more likely to turn cancerous. A woman who took enough estrogen to enlarge her breasts would greatly increase her risk of breast cancer .In any case, if a breast enhancement product were to contain a powerful phytoestrogen in sufficient quantities to actually stimulate growth of breast cells (a very big if), it would also increase the risk of breast cancer! You cant get one effect without the other. From GetContent.aspx?token=e0498803-7f62-4563-8d47-5fe33da65dd4&chunkiid=35539
Molly
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Re: safety of herbal enhancement
July 29 2006, 8:18 PM
If you read more widely you will find that the general view is that phytoestrogens protect against breast cancer. Countries that have a high rate of phytoestrogen consumption in their diets have lower rates of breast cancer and the country with the very highest natural consumption of phytoestrogens of all has the very lowest rate of breast cancer. But when women in those countries emigrate to the West and start eating typical Western diets their incidence of breast cancer rises to normal Western levels. There was also a major clinical study conducted on this subject which concluded not only that phytoestrogens provide protection against breast cancer, but that the degree of protection against braest cancer appeared to be significant.
anonymous
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Re: safety of herbal enhancement
July 29 2006, 11:26 PM
thank you!! I appreciate that information
Anonymous
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after reading this, i'm a little concerned
July 31 2006, 8:42 PM
http://www.fwhc.org/health/phytoestrogens.htm
This seems simple -- eat more phytoestrogens, be healthier -- and it is, so long as we restrict ourselves to eating plants. But when the difference between food and medicine is disregarded, when phytoestrogens are isolated and concentrated, sold to us in pills and candy bars, then the equation changes: phytoestrogens become dangerous hormones, quite capable of promoting cancer.
does anyone know if its more likely to promote cancer over a longer period of time or can it affect people who take pills for just a few months?
Molly
(Login MollyH)
EVE MEMBERS
Re: safety of herbal enhancement
August 1 2006, 7:48 AM
Your argument is still not relevant because not many breast enhancement products have the isolated phytoestrogens you talk about, such as soy isoflavones. In general breast enhancement products are foods, which you have said yourself are healthy. The fact that herbs are pressed into tablets or powdered and put into capsules does not mean that they suddenly become unhealthy. On the contrary, most people taking breast enhancement herbs will probably improve their overall health a great deal.
Anonymous
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Re: safety of herbal enhancement
August 1 2006, 6:59 PM
thanks for clearing that up! i feel a lot better now =)