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March 31 2007 at 3:02 AM noini (Login noini)
I'm a quite worried if these herbs, even though a natural way of enhancement, may cause cancer or hormone problems. Especially when taken in excess quantities. Any thoughts on this...
kat
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Re: worried
March 31 2007, 4:07 AM
No one here, not even experts can say with certainty or guarantee that those aren't possibilities. The general rule I've always gone with is "if something has an affect (example in our case: breast growth), then there will be effects"
Those are just chances we have to take. However, doing your research is the smart way to approach this.
Start by finding out what your hormone levels are.
Good luck hun!
tarepanda23
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Re: worried
March 31 2007, 11:53 AM
i'm doing the food and massage method with hypnosis and it's working quite well for me. this method must be safer since you don't mess with hormones like you do with taking herbs.
the grow is very very slow though but i grew one cupsize already from small a to normal b. i just want to point out you can choose from other methods other than herbs if you are not comfortable with taking herbs.
wish you all the luck with your NBE!
Henri
(Login henriettahippo)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: worried
March 31 2007, 2:44 PM
This is a thought provoking question - but if one is really concerned about the herbs messing up ones hormones, then one also needs to be aware of the effects of other drugs and hormones we stick in our body each day sometimes unaware. Does anybody really know the long term effects of all the birth controls? or heart medicine? or choloesterol pills? or pain medicines? or nerve pills? we can't really say for sure since they are constantly coming out with new formulas and going out with the old - no one has been on anything long enough to determine the long term effects - sure we know that some can cause some problems, but thats as far as it goes, these drugs aren't tested life long just a few years.......
We can go even further to say that did you know that all the drugs and chemicals and other stuff we flush down the toilet do not always get processed out of the water!?! so we ingest part of that!! and that not all bottle water is purified - there are brands that are even worse then tap water because they aren't required to meet strict requirements. And then there is the whole processed food and everything else, so we run the risk of poisening ourselves through everything we do everyday!!
Not to belittle the question - but in our lives there are so many things that we do that can have the same effect and yet we take no concern over those!! I would think that there really is no guarantee that the herbs will or won't cause any effects and if say half of us end up with cancer in the end, can we really say it was the herbs, or could it be from something else we have taken?
noini
(Login noini)
Message for Tarepanda23
March 31 2007, 6:58 PM
Hi Tarepanda23
Could you please elaborate on your food, massage and hypnosis strategies. I searched the forum but couldn't find anything about food or hypnosis. Maybe I'm not searching right? A cup size increase without any weight gain on my hips/thighs is all I'm aiming for, anything bigger would be a nice bonus
Thanks a lot.
tarepanda
(Login tarepanda23)
Re: worried
April 1 2007, 2:27 AM
Hi noini,
I mainly follow fengshui's and tiger lily's routines which involve eating "boobie friendly" food and massage. it's an old chinese method so the theory behind it uses some common chinese medical terms like yin and yang food, chi, pressure points etc. this might sound a bit mysterious but in my opinion a lot of these things are really about blood flow, the right nutrition and your mental state, whether you will believe it will work or not.
I'm not an expert but from what i've read and from my own experience, i can try to explain how yin and yang food work. Yin is considered "cold" food and yang "warm". this has nothing to do with the temperature of the food but how your body reacts to the food. It's hard to describe what the difference is but i know to some extent because i'm chinese and my parents taught me about this since i was a little girl.
Maybe you know that eating potato chips or basically anything fried is bad for skin and can cause acne. well, fried food is very yang and too much yang can give you too much food energy (or 'chi') which can result in 'little erruptions' of this energy: acne. I had acne when i was a teen and my parents warned me all the time not to eat fried things.
Yin food has high water content and it can compensate the effect of yang. an example of yin food is watermelon. it's common knowledge for the chinese people to avoid watermelon when pregnant because it's so cold that it can cause miscarriage. these are only some examples of yin and yang food, it's actually much more complex than this but this is how i make it clear to myself. you can found more info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_food_therapy
And it gets more complex when it comes to NBE! certain food are better for boob growth than others. i've read that yang food is good for boobies and yin isn't but some yin foods are actually considered boobie friendly. fortunately some ladies on another forum provided a list of good and bad boobie food. i think it was fengshui who mentioned that she got the info from a taiwanese forum about breast enlargement. you can see the list of good and bad boobie food here:
http://www.aphroditewomenshealth.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=53475&page=1&fpart=11
that entire forum is about food and massage, so highly recommended to read!
food and massage method basically works like this: you replace your meals with as much as boobie foods as possible and it's recommended to eat boobie food immediately after massage. food with high protein or with gelatin are also boob friendly. i don't think it's important what kind of massage you do. pansyclub's massage at the main page is the one with pressure points. you also find more massage techniques at fengshui's and tiger lily's program page.
about the hypnosis, i strongly feel it has attributed to my growth. i listen to blaketalks. it's not very popular at this forum though. you can do a search with 'hypnosis' or 'blake'. i hope the yin and yang stuff was understandable ^-^
Dogfreak
(Login dogfreak)
To Tarepanda 23
April 1 2007, 3:14 PM
Hey Tare, can u teach me on the hypnosis programme? i cant seem to find any info/ downloadin on web. Thx
Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: worried
April 1 2007, 4:57 PM
The thing is - these herbs have been used for centuries, so that's a quite good guarantee that they are safe. Nothing is 100% certain tho so that's just a decision you have to make yourself.
Oh, and there's really no difference between eating boobie foods and swallowing herbs in capsules, except that the later is easier.
Lisa
(Login lilmama40)
Re: worried
April 1 2007, 6:09 PM
I agree with Henri above.....practically everything we do MIGHT potentially contribute to cancer. These days people get cancer younger than they used to and with no family history of cancer like they used to have. If we do end up with cancer, we will not know what caused it. We are choosing to alter our bodies. Along with this choice comes a certain degree of potential risk. Just like if we had chosen to have implants, there would be a certain risk factor with that choice. I think we just have to do what we feel is right for us and try to be as informed and healthful as possible.
sophie
(Login sophie9)
Re: worried
April 1 2007, 6:56 PM
i think of it the way people think about the birth control pill. there were times doctors thought it could cause cancer. now most doctors agree that it actually decreases the chances of breast and ovarian cancers. some doctors still are not sure. soy i believe is another one - people claim in large quantities it can cause cancer; some say it helps prevent cancers. moderation is in my estimation the key to health. i don't think most of us take these herbs in as high a quantity to render any sort of carcinogenic effect. of course, we don't know for sure, but like moon said, these herbs have been used for centuries. i am an ancient historian, and have heard of fennugreek fennel and various other herbs we use being used by men to manipulate their hormonal balance and promote growth of the same feminine attributes we are after. in ancient rome, the way they used herbs was very similar to the ways in which we use them today, and the knowledge of concentrating herbs into alcoholic tinctures was available. very similar to what we have today. there is nothing in the record that suggests cancer from what i know (not my area of expertise), so as others have said and as many comapanies will tell you, these herbs are believed to have been used safely for centuries. since many of us have slight hormonal imbalances, some of these herbs used for breast growth are probably helping our bodies rather than hurting them. our hormones get out of wack by medications, additives in food, stress...all sorts of things.
Peony
(Login peonyflower)
Re: worried
April 2 2007, 7:52 AM
The boobie food list mentioned by tarepanda is available here on the food and drink page.
Peony
(Login peonyflower)
Re: worried
April 2 2007, 7:55 AM
I can add that you can also find the food information on Fengshui's program page.
March 31 2007 at 3:02 AM noini (Login noini)
I'm a quite worried if these herbs, even though a natural way of enhancement, may cause cancer or hormone problems. Especially when taken in excess quantities. Any thoughts on this...
kat
(no login)
Re: worried
March 31 2007, 4:07 AM
No one here, not even experts can say with certainty or guarantee that those aren't possibilities. The general rule I've always gone with is "if something has an affect (example in our case: breast growth), then there will be effects"
Those are just chances we have to take. However, doing your research is the smart way to approach this.
Start by finding out what your hormone levels are.
Good luck hun!
tarepanda23
(no login)
Re: worried
March 31 2007, 11:53 AM
i'm doing the food and massage method with hypnosis and it's working quite well for me. this method must be safer since you don't mess with hormones like you do with taking herbs.
the grow is very very slow though but i grew one cupsize already from small a to normal b. i just want to point out you can choose from other methods other than herbs if you are not comfortable with taking herbs.
wish you all the luck with your NBE!
Henri
(Login henriettahippo)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: worried
March 31 2007, 2:44 PM
This is a thought provoking question - but if one is really concerned about the herbs messing up ones hormones, then one also needs to be aware of the effects of other drugs and hormones we stick in our body each day sometimes unaware. Does anybody really know the long term effects of all the birth controls? or heart medicine? or choloesterol pills? or pain medicines? or nerve pills? we can't really say for sure since they are constantly coming out with new formulas and going out with the old - no one has been on anything long enough to determine the long term effects - sure we know that some can cause some problems, but thats as far as it goes, these drugs aren't tested life long just a few years.......
We can go even further to say that did you know that all the drugs and chemicals and other stuff we flush down the toilet do not always get processed out of the water!?! so we ingest part of that!! and that not all bottle water is purified - there are brands that are even worse then tap water because they aren't required to meet strict requirements. And then there is the whole processed food and everything else, so we run the risk of poisening ourselves through everything we do everyday!!
Not to belittle the question - but in our lives there are so many things that we do that can have the same effect and yet we take no concern over those!! I would think that there really is no guarantee that the herbs will or won't cause any effects and if say half of us end up with cancer in the end, can we really say it was the herbs, or could it be from something else we have taken?
noini
(Login noini)
Message for Tarepanda23
March 31 2007, 6:58 PM
Hi Tarepanda23
Could you please elaborate on your food, massage and hypnosis strategies. I searched the forum but couldn't find anything about food or hypnosis. Maybe I'm not searching right? A cup size increase without any weight gain on my hips/thighs is all I'm aiming for, anything bigger would be a nice bonus
Thanks a lot.
tarepanda
(Login tarepanda23)
Re: worried
April 1 2007, 2:27 AM
Hi noini,
I mainly follow fengshui's and tiger lily's routines which involve eating "boobie friendly" food and massage. it's an old chinese method so the theory behind it uses some common chinese medical terms like yin and yang food, chi, pressure points etc. this might sound a bit mysterious but in my opinion a lot of these things are really about blood flow, the right nutrition and your mental state, whether you will believe it will work or not.
I'm not an expert but from what i've read and from my own experience, i can try to explain how yin and yang food work. Yin is considered "cold" food and yang "warm". this has nothing to do with the temperature of the food but how your body reacts to the food. It's hard to describe what the difference is but i know to some extent because i'm chinese and my parents taught me about this since i was a little girl.
Maybe you know that eating potato chips or basically anything fried is bad for skin and can cause acne. well, fried food is very yang and too much yang can give you too much food energy (or 'chi') which can result in 'little erruptions' of this energy: acne. I had acne when i was a teen and my parents warned me all the time not to eat fried things.
Yin food has high water content and it can compensate the effect of yang. an example of yin food is watermelon. it's common knowledge for the chinese people to avoid watermelon when pregnant because it's so cold that it can cause miscarriage. these are only some examples of yin and yang food, it's actually much more complex than this but this is how i make it clear to myself. you can found more info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_food_therapy
And it gets more complex when it comes to NBE! certain food are better for boob growth than others. i've read that yang food is good for boobies and yin isn't but some yin foods are actually considered boobie friendly. fortunately some ladies on another forum provided a list of good and bad boobie food. i think it was fengshui who mentioned that she got the info from a taiwanese forum about breast enlargement. you can see the list of good and bad boobie food here:
http://www.aphroditewomenshealth.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=53475&page=1&fpart=11
that entire forum is about food and massage, so highly recommended to read!
food and massage method basically works like this: you replace your meals with as much as boobie foods as possible and it's recommended to eat boobie food immediately after massage. food with high protein or with gelatin are also boob friendly. i don't think it's important what kind of massage you do. pansyclub's massage at the main page is the one with pressure points. you also find more massage techniques at fengshui's and tiger lily's program page.
about the hypnosis, i strongly feel it has attributed to my growth. i listen to blaketalks. it's not very popular at this forum though. you can do a search with 'hypnosis' or 'blake'. i hope the yin and yang stuff was understandable ^-^
Dogfreak
(Login dogfreak)
To Tarepanda 23
April 1 2007, 3:14 PM
Hey Tare, can u teach me on the hypnosis programme? i cant seem to find any info/ downloadin on web. Thx
Moon
(Login -Moon-)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: worried
April 1 2007, 4:57 PM
The thing is - these herbs have been used for centuries, so that's a quite good guarantee that they are safe. Nothing is 100% certain tho so that's just a decision you have to make yourself.
Oh, and there's really no difference between eating boobie foods and swallowing herbs in capsules, except that the later is easier.
Lisa
(Login lilmama40)
Re: worried
April 1 2007, 6:09 PM
I agree with Henri above.....practically everything we do MIGHT potentially contribute to cancer. These days people get cancer younger than they used to and with no family history of cancer like they used to have. If we do end up with cancer, we will not know what caused it. We are choosing to alter our bodies. Along with this choice comes a certain degree of potential risk. Just like if we had chosen to have implants, there would be a certain risk factor with that choice. I think we just have to do what we feel is right for us and try to be as informed and healthful as possible.
sophie
(Login sophie9)
Re: worried
April 1 2007, 6:56 PM
i think of it the way people think about the birth control pill. there were times doctors thought it could cause cancer. now most doctors agree that it actually decreases the chances of breast and ovarian cancers. some doctors still are not sure. soy i believe is another one - people claim in large quantities it can cause cancer; some say it helps prevent cancers. moderation is in my estimation the key to health. i don't think most of us take these herbs in as high a quantity to render any sort of carcinogenic effect. of course, we don't know for sure, but like moon said, these herbs have been used for centuries. i am an ancient historian, and have heard of fennugreek fennel and various other herbs we use being used by men to manipulate their hormonal balance and promote growth of the same feminine attributes we are after. in ancient rome, the way they used herbs was very similar to the ways in which we use them today, and the knowledge of concentrating herbs into alcoholic tinctures was available. very similar to what we have today. there is nothing in the record that suggests cancer from what i know (not my area of expertise), so as others have said and as many comapanies will tell you, these herbs are believed to have been used safely for centuries. since many of us have slight hormonal imbalances, some of these herbs used for breast growth are probably helping our bodies rather than hurting them. our hormones get out of wack by medications, additives in food, stress...all sorts of things.
Peony
(Login peonyflower)
Re: worried
April 2 2007, 7:52 AM
The boobie food list mentioned by tarepanda is available here on the food and drink page.
Peony
(Login peonyflower)
Re: worried
April 2 2007, 7:55 AM
I can add that you can also find the food information on Fengshui's program page.