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Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 13 2008 at 9:59 PM Mimi (no login)
Hi everyone, I heard that using herbs (fenugreek, saw palmetto, ect.) may be counterproductive to young women (teens/early 20s) because the estrogenic herbs can stop your breasts from developing naturally on their own. Some people say that many women continue to develop naturally into their 20s.
So for teens, (I'm 18) is it out of the question? I'm size 34B and have been since I was 14.
btw, I have already tried some fenugreek, saw palmetto, and other herbs. I think this stuff does at least make your boobies feel firmer. I do notice that when I gain a little weight from stuffing myself, my boobs become bigger temporarily, so at least the herbs seem to be directing the fat to the right places.
I'm not sure about continuing the herbs though.
Maybe just massage, high protein diet, and milk shakes?
Crystal
(Login ckrystal)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 14 2008, 8:25 AM
Hi, I'm Crystal (aged 18). In my case it took me 3 to 4 weeks to start growing. I have not had any problems and before then my breasts hadn't grown since I was 14 either.
Panthera
(Login ipanthera)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 14 2008, 8:52 PM
I'm 18 years & 2 months. I'm doing well on Wonderup.
It's hard to believe that many women develop naturally into their 20s. I totally believe that some women do, but it's hard to believe that many do. If you ask women, I don't think that many will say they grew without any help in their 20s, but I'm not saying it's impossible. I know it does happen in some cases.
rachel
(no login)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 15 2008, 1:30 PM
what exactly is wonderup and what results have u seen? what made u decide to take the risk of taking herbs? or is it that u dont believe that there are risks at our age? thank u for any replies
Crystal
(Login ckrystal)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 15 2008, 7:53 PM
Wonderup is a herbal product, you can find it at www.vortexhealth.com
I'm starting to grow for sure, but I'm still in the early stages as yet. I'm very pleased though.
Other people of my age are taking Wonderup and similar products, so I'm not aware of any risks.
I know some companies say you have to be 18, but I've not seen any that say you need to be older.
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 15 2008, 10:09 PM
Hi Everybody,
The reason Wonderup and other companies have the warning about not being used until 18 is for legal purposes only. If they could they would market themselves to everyone no matter what age. This is not because the product is safe. This is because they want to make money. No company that is selling you products is going to advise you not to use their product unless they think they will be sued for doing so.
This forum has plenty of examples of people who have have great results with NBE, but it also has some sad examples of people who seemed to have worsened their health from NBE.
If your body has not completed puberty - which for many is not accomplished until the mid 20's - you run a greater risk of having a negative effect from NBE.
Now of course we don't have a parallel universe handy to compare you to yourself who did not do NBE and see if you would have naturally developed. Too bad. As it is you are just doing trial and error like the rest of us.
There are many forms of NBE that do not use herbs- massage, suction, hypnosis... these have been proven effective for many.
Don't be in such a big rush to achieve NBE that you discount your health.
Keep safe -and best wishes to you all,
waxingmoon (much, much older than 18)
Nell Gwynne
(Login nell.gwynne)
EVE MEMBERS
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 16 2008, 7:38 AM
Just a note to say that Wonderup is not one of the products which maintains that customers must be at least 18.
Mimi
(Login MimiT89)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 16 2008, 9:06 PM
I'm not using wonder up but I was using this product I bought on ebay called luvtrak breast enhancement. It has fenugreek, saw palmetto, damiana, kelp, and lots other herbs. I also tried plain fenugreek, flax seeds, and saw palmetto in the past. these seem to have temporary good effect.
I haven't touched any of those in over a week now though, I'm apprehensive because of what I read about.
But on the other hand, I read that the younger you are, the more likely the herbs will work fast on you. And I noticed that alot of the people who say the herbs worked for them are younger.
I'm not sure if I'm done with puberty or not. I think I probably am done, since I got my first peroid at 11, come on, that's 7 years! But still not I'm sure bc I still look a little young for my age and I haven't grown...still 5'1. I will go to the doctor to see if my growth plates closed yet, if not, I'll assume I'm still going thru puberty. Which means I'll stop the herbs for a few years, and just concentrate on diet, and getting enough sleep.
I noticed extra carbs, breads, and protein helps fill my chest out.
btw, for me, I think breast massage make mine smaller sometimes. Is there a special way to do it?
grace
(Login grace1892)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 16 2008, 11:15 PM
MiMi, in terms of massage there are several different recommended methods listed on the main home page of this forum under the massage technique section. There are also many different lotions, creams, and serums you can try as well.
Waxingmoon--
in terms of negative impacts that NBE has had on people, what do you mean. If you haven't finished puberty then how would you be effected negatively by NBE? I read that when plant estrogen binds with human estrogen it can inhibit growth-- is this what you mean?
Wahaika
(Login Wahaika)
SENIOR MEMBER
Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 17 2008, 7:15 AM
16 year olds have been taking Wonderup, but I think anyone of that age should think carefully about starting NBE at such a young age.
Wahaika
Mimi
(Login MimiT89)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 20 2008, 11:03 AM
Thanks wahaika, but I'm not sure this applies to me. I'll be 19 in September. My boobs have been developing for a while. Think it started when I was 9. Then I got into puberty at 11, so I think I'm done. I will go to the doctor to see for sure.
I'll try carrots and soy milk, and see happens.
Tessica
(Login Tessica)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 21 2008, 8:35 PM
It is not necessarily your boobs that are developing, but puberty can last into the mid-20s. There are still hormone changes going on which can be affected by herb use. You can still upset your natural development even if your breasts have not changed since adolescence. The rest of your body is still developing in ways you may not even notice.
Brianna
(no login)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
August 12 2008, 7:22 AM
Is this actually true about developing in your 20s?
I've always heard that the ageing process starts when you are 19 and it's all downhill from then on!
boobylove
(Login boobylove)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
August 12 2008, 11:32 PM
yep u do ...
i had hips and darker hair at 19-20... and had still started normal puberty at 11...
xxxxxx
Sylvia
(no login)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
August 13 2008, 7:12 AM
I must admit I read the story somewhere about the ageing process starts at 19. I'm not saying it's true, but it's something I distictly remember reading.
Moon
(Login -Moon-)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
August 13 2008, 9:04 AM
Girls who are too young to take herbs could try a massage based NBE. It can work by speeding up your natural growth as you are already in the ''growth mode''. But you should spend about half an hour a day massaging, like twice 15 minutes, with an effective technique (read the main page for several different techniques and preferably combine and add some of your own elements based on what gives you growing signs). You could also try chicken feet soup, it's a chinese boobie food and method and it has worked surprisingly for some.
Georgina
(no login)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
August 17 2008, 7:09 AM
I think ageing does start at around 19 or 20, but this is a technical matter more than anything, because from that age up until 35 the body cells renew almost perfectly, so there is no real discernable ageing until then.
lena
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
August 17 2008, 10:39 PM
Because we did not know any better, I started NBE when I was 19 and my sister when she was 17. And we seem to be growing nicely; her growth is a lot faster than mine, though. I have been a 32B/34A since I was 14 so I think my breasts have stopped growing then. Moreover, I started growing breasts when I was barely 8 years old (so freakishly early, I know!).
Panthera
(Login ipanthera)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
August 18 2008, 9:19 AM
I was also 17 when I started taking Wonderup, though I'm 18 now. It's worked well for me without any problems.
July 13 2008 at 9:59 PM Mimi (no login)
Hi everyone, I heard that using herbs (fenugreek, saw palmetto, ect.) may be counterproductive to young women (teens/early 20s) because the estrogenic herbs can stop your breasts from developing naturally on their own. Some people say that many women continue to develop naturally into their 20s.
So for teens, (I'm 18) is it out of the question? I'm size 34B and have been since I was 14.
btw, I have already tried some fenugreek, saw palmetto, and other herbs. I think this stuff does at least make your boobies feel firmer. I do notice that when I gain a little weight from stuffing myself, my boobs become bigger temporarily, so at least the herbs seem to be directing the fat to the right places.
I'm not sure about continuing the herbs though.
Maybe just massage, high protein diet, and milk shakes?
Crystal
(Login ckrystal)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 14 2008, 8:25 AM
Hi, I'm Crystal (aged 18). In my case it took me 3 to 4 weeks to start growing. I have not had any problems and before then my breasts hadn't grown since I was 14 either.
Panthera
(Login ipanthera)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 14 2008, 8:52 PM
I'm 18 years & 2 months. I'm doing well on Wonderup.
It's hard to believe that many women develop naturally into their 20s. I totally believe that some women do, but it's hard to believe that many do. If you ask women, I don't think that many will say they grew without any help in their 20s, but I'm not saying it's impossible. I know it does happen in some cases.
rachel
(no login)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 15 2008, 1:30 PM
what exactly is wonderup and what results have u seen? what made u decide to take the risk of taking herbs? or is it that u dont believe that there are risks at our age? thank u for any replies
Crystal
(Login ckrystal)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 15 2008, 7:53 PM
Wonderup is a herbal product, you can find it at www.vortexhealth.com
I'm starting to grow for sure, but I'm still in the early stages as yet. I'm very pleased though.
Other people of my age are taking Wonderup and similar products, so I'm not aware of any risks.
I know some companies say you have to be 18, but I've not seen any that say you need to be older.
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 15 2008, 10:09 PM
Hi Everybody,
The reason Wonderup and other companies have the warning about not being used until 18 is for legal purposes only. If they could they would market themselves to everyone no matter what age. This is not because the product is safe. This is because they want to make money. No company that is selling you products is going to advise you not to use their product unless they think they will be sued for doing so.
This forum has plenty of examples of people who have have great results with NBE, but it also has some sad examples of people who seemed to have worsened their health from NBE.
If your body has not completed puberty - which for many is not accomplished until the mid 20's - you run a greater risk of having a negative effect from NBE.
Now of course we don't have a parallel universe handy to compare you to yourself who did not do NBE and see if you would have naturally developed. Too bad. As it is you are just doing trial and error like the rest of us.
There are many forms of NBE that do not use herbs- massage, suction, hypnosis... these have been proven effective for many.
Don't be in such a big rush to achieve NBE that you discount your health.
Keep safe -and best wishes to you all,
waxingmoon (much, much older than 18)
Nell Gwynne
(Login nell.gwynne)
EVE MEMBERS
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 16 2008, 7:38 AM
Just a note to say that Wonderup is not one of the products which maintains that customers must be at least 18.
Mimi
(Login MimiT89)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 16 2008, 9:06 PM
I'm not using wonder up but I was using this product I bought on ebay called luvtrak breast enhancement. It has fenugreek, saw palmetto, damiana, kelp, and lots other herbs. I also tried plain fenugreek, flax seeds, and saw palmetto in the past. these seem to have temporary good effect.
I haven't touched any of those in over a week now though, I'm apprehensive because of what I read about.
But on the other hand, I read that the younger you are, the more likely the herbs will work fast on you. And I noticed that alot of the people who say the herbs worked for them are younger.
I'm not sure if I'm done with puberty or not. I think I probably am done, since I got my first peroid at 11, come on, that's 7 years! But still not I'm sure bc I still look a little young for my age and I haven't grown...still 5'1. I will go to the doctor to see if my growth plates closed yet, if not, I'll assume I'm still going thru puberty. Which means I'll stop the herbs for a few years, and just concentrate on diet, and getting enough sleep.
I noticed extra carbs, breads, and protein helps fill my chest out.
btw, for me, I think breast massage make mine smaller sometimes. Is there a special way to do it?
grace
(Login grace1892)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 16 2008, 11:15 PM
MiMi, in terms of massage there are several different recommended methods listed on the main home page of this forum under the massage technique section. There are also many different lotions, creams, and serums you can try as well.
Waxingmoon--
in terms of negative impacts that NBE has had on people, what do you mean. If you haven't finished puberty then how would you be effected negatively by NBE? I read that when plant estrogen binds with human estrogen it can inhibit growth-- is this what you mean?
Wahaika
(Login Wahaika)
SENIOR MEMBER
Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 17 2008, 7:15 AM
16 year olds have been taking Wonderup, but I think anyone of that age should think carefully about starting NBE at such a young age.
Wahaika
Mimi
(Login MimiT89)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 20 2008, 11:03 AM
Thanks wahaika, but I'm not sure this applies to me. I'll be 19 in September. My boobs have been developing for a while. Think it started when I was 9. Then I got into puberty at 11, so I think I'm done. I will go to the doctor to see for sure.
I'll try carrots and soy milk, and see happens.
Tessica
(Login Tessica)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
July 21 2008, 8:35 PM
It is not necessarily your boobs that are developing, but puberty can last into the mid-20s. There are still hormone changes going on which can be affected by herb use. You can still upset your natural development even if your breasts have not changed since adolescence. The rest of your body is still developing in ways you may not even notice.
Brianna
(no login)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
August 12 2008, 7:22 AM
Is this actually true about developing in your 20s?
I've always heard that the ageing process starts when you are 19 and it's all downhill from then on!
boobylove
(Login boobylove)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
August 12 2008, 11:32 PM
yep u do ...
i had hips and darker hair at 19-20... and had still started normal puberty at 11...
xxxxxx
Sylvia
(no login)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
August 13 2008, 7:12 AM
I must admit I read the story somewhere about the ageing process starts at 19. I'm not saying it's true, but it's something I distictly remember reading.
Moon
(Login -Moon-)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
August 13 2008, 9:04 AM
Girls who are too young to take herbs could try a massage based NBE. It can work by speeding up your natural growth as you are already in the ''growth mode''. But you should spend about half an hour a day massaging, like twice 15 minutes, with an effective technique (read the main page for several different techniques and preferably combine and add some of your own elements based on what gives you growing signs). You could also try chicken feet soup, it's a chinese boobie food and method and it has worked surprisingly for some.
Georgina
(no login)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
August 17 2008, 7:09 AM
I think ageing does start at around 19 or 20, but this is a technical matter more than anything, because from that age up until 35 the body cells renew almost perfectly, so there is no real discernable ageing until then.
lena
(Login stilettos)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
August 17 2008, 10:39 PM
Because we did not know any better, I started NBE when I was 19 and my sister when she was 17. And we seem to be growing nicely; her growth is a lot faster than mine, though. I have been a 32B/34A since I was 14 so I think my breasts have stopped growing then. Moreover, I started growing breasts when I was barely 8 years old (so freakishly early, I know!).
Panthera
(Login ipanthera)
Re: Using herbs - Dangerous for young women?
August 18 2008, 9:19 AM
I was also 17 when I started taking Wonderup, though I'm 18 now. It's worked well for me without any problems.