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BREAST GROWTH=CANCER!!!
January 16 2006 at 6:24 PM Lisa Fitterer (Login browneyedgirl15)
Hey everyone,
I was just wondering what infromation you girls have collected about the link between increasing your breast size by natural methods(of herbs/BE product) and breast cancer. I have been reading up a lot on the subject of herbal breast enhancment (because being a AA, and considering implants too risky, I see herbal breast enhancement as my last option). I have read on a number of websites that if you were to actually suceed at enhancing your breast with herbs/BE pills you would be in turn increasing your risk of breast cancer. Many articles say that you cannot have one without the other. Does anyone have more information about this??? Any advice is helpful.
Thanks,
Browneyedgirl
SugarQ
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Re: BREAST GROWTH=CANCER!!!
January 17 2006, 4:23 AM
this subject has a lot of interesting opinions. IMO there may be a risk but so far no one knows for sure. herbs may actually help prevent cancer (some say) but the truth is that its hard to say. you need to first understand how natural estrogen works to great cancer cells and you need how phytoestrogens work in the body (many theories but no one knows for sure). so far there hasnt been a cancer scare on any forum where nbe is discussed. some forums have been discussing nbe at least since 1999 and thousands of women have used these nbe formula brands and individual herbs without much too much worries of cancer but there may be other problems that are hormone related that come up from time to time. sometimes they are serious problems.
Molly
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Phytoestrogens
January 17 2006, 8:03 AM
To be fair, you ought to have pointed out that most authorities do not agree with this idea and also it would have been worth saying that the general medical outlook on phytoestrogens is highly favourable. For balance, you should have stated that only a small minority of articles promote the idea you mention and most others are completely against it.
Tabitha
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Study
January 17 2006, 11:18 AM
There is a clinical study on phytoestrogens and cancer which concluded that dietary intake of phytoestrogens significantly REDUCES THE RISK OF CANCER. When I say study I mean a published study (even published in The Lancet). It is also well known that the higher the intake of phytoestrogens in the national diet the lower the rate of breast cancer. Japan has the world's highest intake of dietary phytoestrogens but the world's lowest rate of breast cancer.
SugarQ
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Re: Study
January 17 2006, 4:00 PM
there are a lot of interesting opinions floating around from studies and researchers, but i dont know if i believe any studies or researchers too much mainly becuase you can find "studies" that suggest that herbs do or dont cause cancer. its been a while since i did research on this topic but from what i remember last i read something(cant remember if it was a published study) about fennel causing cell growth in the mammary tissue of mice. im having trouble finding anything related to that righ now so if someone heard something like this and have a site with more info them please help me out. the fear behind herbs and cancer is weither or not it causes cell growth. if it does then it could mean that abnormal cell growth also has the potential to occure .http://www.cancersupportivecare.com/estrogenherbdata.html#table1 this is on site i found that talks about phyoestrogen. i personally am cant understand what this experiement is suppose to find out but i see cancer and estradiol together. maybe someone can make some sence out of it.
prettysoulful
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Re: BREAST GROWTH=CANCER!!!
January 18 2006, 3:26 PM
I can not speak to the validity of all the studies as they pertain to breast growth and cancer. But I can say that the two main herbs that I use and recommend have been used for centuries as food and medicine. Fenugreek is used around the world in food everyday, and while the dosages we use for BE are significantly greater than a basic meal, this same herb has been used and suggested for nursing mothers in dosages higher than what is suggested for BE with few side effects and no links to cancer. The saw palmetto has been studied for safety and effectiveness in men for the past decade or so, but has been used for female issues for over a century, again with no links to increased cancer risks.
For me, this knowledge, coupled with the many studies that support the benefits of phytoestrogens, plus the lack of any studies that clearly link phytohormones to cancer, and I feel fairly comfortable with NBE.
Anna
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Saw Palmetto
January 18 2006, 6:03 PM
http://cancer.ucsd.edu/Outreach/PublicEducation/CAMs/sawpalmeto.asp
This is a page from the Cancer Center at the University of California on how using Saw Palmetto can help with the symptoms of cancer.
Trudie
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Re: BREAST GROWTH=CANCER!!!
January 22 2006, 10:16 AM
Red Clover has often been described as the world's leading anti-cancer herb.
Judith
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Re: BREAST GROWTH=CANCER!!!
January 22 2006, 6:28 PM
I thought Saw palmetto was supposed to help PROTECT men against certain cancers.
Shirley
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Phytoestrogens Reduce Risk for Cancer
January 22 2006, 7:34 PM
The following article "Phytoestrogens Reduce Risk for Cancer" is taken from http://www.womenlivingnaturally.com/articlepage.php?id=107
"In a study published in Environmental Health Perspectives, researchers reported that, in addition to their benefits for the glandular system, phytoestrogens have been shown to have antioxidant activity and can influence intracellular enzymes, protein synthesis, growth factor action, and cell proliferation in a way that makes them "strong candidates for a role as natural cancer-protective compounds." The authors point out that countries or regions that consume the highest amounts of phytoestrogens also tend to have the lowest cancer rates. In another study published in the Journal of Epidemiology foods high in phytoestrogens were found to have a protective effect against endometrial cancer. In this nine-year study involving over 800 women, those who ate a diet rich in phytoestrogens showed a 54 percent reduction in the incidence of this cancer".
January 16 2006 at 6:24 PM Lisa Fitterer (Login browneyedgirl15)
Hey everyone,
I was just wondering what infromation you girls have collected about the link between increasing your breast size by natural methods(of herbs/BE product) and breast cancer. I have been reading up a lot on the subject of herbal breast enhancment (because being a AA, and considering implants too risky, I see herbal breast enhancement as my last option). I have read on a number of websites that if you were to actually suceed at enhancing your breast with herbs/BE pills you would be in turn increasing your risk of breast cancer. Many articles say that you cannot have one without the other. Does anyone have more information about this??? Any advice is helpful.
Thanks,
Browneyedgirl
SugarQ
(no login)
Re: BREAST GROWTH=CANCER!!!
January 17 2006, 4:23 AM
this subject has a lot of interesting opinions. IMO there may be a risk but so far no one knows for sure. herbs may actually help prevent cancer (some say) but the truth is that its hard to say. you need to first understand how natural estrogen works to great cancer cells and you need how phytoestrogens work in the body (many theories but no one knows for sure). so far there hasnt been a cancer scare on any forum where nbe is discussed. some forums have been discussing nbe at least since 1999 and thousands of women have used these nbe formula brands and individual herbs without much too much worries of cancer but there may be other problems that are hormone related that come up from time to time. sometimes they are serious problems.
Molly
(no login)
Phytoestrogens
January 17 2006, 8:03 AM
To be fair, you ought to have pointed out that most authorities do not agree with this idea and also it would have been worth saying that the general medical outlook on phytoestrogens is highly favourable. For balance, you should have stated that only a small minority of articles promote the idea you mention and most others are completely against it.
Tabitha
(no login)
Study
January 17 2006, 11:18 AM
There is a clinical study on phytoestrogens and cancer which concluded that dietary intake of phytoestrogens significantly REDUCES THE RISK OF CANCER. When I say study I mean a published study (even published in The Lancet). It is also well known that the higher the intake of phytoestrogens in the national diet the lower the rate of breast cancer. Japan has the world's highest intake of dietary phytoestrogens but the world's lowest rate of breast cancer.
SugarQ
(no login)
Re: Study
January 17 2006, 4:00 PM
there are a lot of interesting opinions floating around from studies and researchers, but i dont know if i believe any studies or researchers too much mainly becuase you can find "studies" that suggest that herbs do or dont cause cancer. its been a while since i did research on this topic but from what i remember last i read something(cant remember if it was a published study) about fennel causing cell growth in the mammary tissue of mice. im having trouble finding anything related to that righ now so if someone heard something like this and have a site with more info them please help me out. the fear behind herbs and cancer is weither or not it causes cell growth. if it does then it could mean that abnormal cell growth also has the potential to occure .http://www.cancersupportivecare.com/estrogenherbdata.html#table1 this is on site i found that talks about phyoestrogen. i personally am cant understand what this experiement is suppose to find out but i see cancer and estradiol together. maybe someone can make some sence out of it.
prettysoulful
(no login)
Re: BREAST GROWTH=CANCER!!!
January 18 2006, 3:26 PM
I can not speak to the validity of all the studies as they pertain to breast growth and cancer. But I can say that the two main herbs that I use and recommend have been used for centuries as food and medicine. Fenugreek is used around the world in food everyday, and while the dosages we use for BE are significantly greater than a basic meal, this same herb has been used and suggested for nursing mothers in dosages higher than what is suggested for BE with few side effects and no links to cancer. The saw palmetto has been studied for safety and effectiveness in men for the past decade or so, but has been used for female issues for over a century, again with no links to increased cancer risks.
For me, this knowledge, coupled with the many studies that support the benefits of phytoestrogens, plus the lack of any studies that clearly link phytohormones to cancer, and I feel fairly comfortable with NBE.
Anna
(no login)
Saw Palmetto
January 18 2006, 6:03 PM
http://cancer.ucsd.edu/Outreach/PublicEducation/CAMs/sawpalmeto.asp
This is a page from the Cancer Center at the University of California on how using Saw Palmetto can help with the symptoms of cancer.
Trudie
(no login)
Re: BREAST GROWTH=CANCER!!!
January 22 2006, 10:16 AM
Red Clover has often been described as the world's leading anti-cancer herb.
Judith
(no login)
Re: BREAST GROWTH=CANCER!!!
January 22 2006, 6:28 PM
I thought Saw palmetto was supposed to help PROTECT men against certain cancers.
Shirley
(no login)
Phytoestrogens Reduce Risk for Cancer
January 22 2006, 7:34 PM
The following article "Phytoestrogens Reduce Risk for Cancer" is taken from http://www.womenlivingnaturally.com/articlepage.php?id=107
"In a study published in Environmental Health Perspectives, researchers reported that, in addition to their benefits for the glandular system, phytoestrogens have been shown to have antioxidant activity and can influence intracellular enzymes, protein synthesis, growth factor action, and cell proliferation in a way that makes them "strong candidates for a role as natural cancer-protective compounds." The authors point out that countries or regions that consume the highest amounts of phytoestrogens also tend to have the lowest cancer rates. In another study published in the Journal of Epidemiology foods high in phytoestrogens were found to have a protective effect against endometrial cancer. In this nine-year study involving over 800 women, those who ate a diet rich in phytoestrogens showed a 54 percent reduction in the incidence of this cancer".