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To Waxingmoon or anyone, RE: Protein powders
September 13 2007 at 12:17 PM Louise (no login)
Hi Waxingmoon, I just read your post on the BO forum quite a while ago about the absorption of different proteins. I mainly get mine from the soy and whey in slim fast, eggs and beans. I couldn't drink a shake but could I mix these powders in yoghurt or with egg mayonaise / peanut butter in a sandwich? Would these be a good source of veggie protein that will actually be used for boobs not backside building?!
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powders/protein-powders/milk-protein-concentrate/
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powders/protein-powders/egg-white-powder/
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: To Waxingmoon or anyone, RE: Protein powders
September 13 2007, 1:47 PM
Hi Louise,
You are using two protein sources that are considered very high in biological value (meaning they are used very efficiently by the body). Those are the egg and whey. The whey protein is also very quickly absorbed by your body.
The soy and beans are not high in biological value compared to the other two, in fact they are used about half as efficiently as the others. That would mean in order to get the same value of absorption in your body you would have to consume twice as much of these proteins. An added problem with soy is that it has toxins that actually interfere with protein absorption. The added problem with beans is that they are not a complete protein and must be combined with a grain source to give you all the amino acids you need.
So your better choice would be the whey and egg as far as what will give you the most protein value. Consuming a sufficient amount of protein is important. I would say increasing protein by 25 - 50 grams in the powder/shake form is important for NBE for most. Those who already have high protein intake (above 100 grams per day) may not need to supplement protein.
As far as building body fat, that is just the calories in versus calories out issue. Where your fat is distributed is determined by your body, not by what foods you eat. Over-consumption of any food will cause your body to build body fat -protein is no exception.
Hope this has been some help,
waxingmoon
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: To Waxingmoon or anyone, RE: Protein powders
September 13 2007, 2:08 PM
Thanks, that's great, I was mainly concerned that eating protein that is not readily used as protein means you use it as fuel so I'm just eating calories that could have been enjoyed better in other foods.
Have you had any experience with these powders? Will I be able to mix it into yoghurt instead of making a shake? These particular brands you only seem to need a small quantity. I'm getting about 50-60g protein from 1300 cal diet. I'm 5'1 and 109 lbs.
Do you know how much of an effect metformin has on how much you can eat?
Goatwoman.
(Login Goatwoman)
protein powders
September 13 2007, 2:30 PM
Louise you and I are the same EXACT height and weight. I started doing the powders in shakes. I use either soy milk or carb countdown in mine. I also add about 1-2 ounces of cream cheese, some sugar free flavoring, about a tablespoon of coconut oil and ice cubes and blend. It is very tasty. I was doing 2 of these a day but noticed my weight going up. I cut back to one and I dropped a pound or two. I wasn't sure if it was the herbs or the drinks. I was probably getting too much protein if that is possible. I suppose it is. Do you mind also telling me your age, I am 45. I have gained one inch so far on my program, but I am also a few pounds heavier.
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: To Waxingmoon or anyone, RE: Protein powders
September 13 2007, 2:44 PM
I'm 25, have lost 27 lbs, about 18 of that jan-april and the rest since. I'm not really trying to get lower and lower as my BMI is 20.6 so if I go much lower I'll below the NBE threshold (not that you'd say I was thin as I have big thighs). Really want to work on toning and I think it may be having some effect even though I'm really lazy with it but just want to be careful that I add boobs to my body not just get fatter all over. I'm very pear shaped at the moment but hopefully when the meds kick in and I get my hormones fixed I can actually see some good results. Have you got kids? Have you done a program page? I have got a program page but wrote it with only me in mind so it's very detailed and very boring I'm afraid.
Goatwoman.
(Login Goatwoman)
Re: To Waxingmoon or anyone, RE: Protein powders
September 13 2007, 3:09 PM
I haven't done a program page yet. Yes I do have one little girl. I got pregnant late in life at 37. I have been thin most all my life but I did have to diet to lose those last stubborn pounds after being pregnant. I weighed 90 pounds most my life, but now I am 107-109. I did get down to 105 but when I started the NBE I have gained a few pounds. I do try to walk 2 miles at least 3 times a week. I am actually a 34C BUT at my age and after breastfeeding gravity is setting in and they are starting to sag some. Not terribly but enough to bother me. I want them fuller not larger but if larger comes I won't complain. I just started a couple of weeks ago so I have a long journey ahead. I will be trying some progesterone soon once I can get on an even plain with my cycle. I am doing the herbal route for now and I did add the Blossom S soap this week.
September 13 2007 at 12:17 PM Louise (no login)
Hi Waxingmoon, I just read your post on the BO forum quite a while ago about the absorption of different proteins. I mainly get mine from the soy and whey in slim fast, eggs and beans. I couldn't drink a shake but could I mix these powders in yoghurt or with egg mayonaise / peanut butter in a sandwich? Would these be a good source of veggie protein that will actually be used for boobs not backside building?!
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powders/protein-powders/milk-protein-concentrate/
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powders/protein-powders/egg-white-powder/
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: To Waxingmoon or anyone, RE: Protein powders
September 13 2007, 1:47 PM
Hi Louise,
You are using two protein sources that are considered very high in biological value (meaning they are used very efficiently by the body). Those are the egg and whey. The whey protein is also very quickly absorbed by your body.
The soy and beans are not high in biological value compared to the other two, in fact they are used about half as efficiently as the others. That would mean in order to get the same value of absorption in your body you would have to consume twice as much of these proteins. An added problem with soy is that it has toxins that actually interfere with protein absorption. The added problem with beans is that they are not a complete protein and must be combined with a grain source to give you all the amino acids you need.
So your better choice would be the whey and egg as far as what will give you the most protein value. Consuming a sufficient amount of protein is important. I would say increasing protein by 25 - 50 grams in the powder/shake form is important for NBE for most. Those who already have high protein intake (above 100 grams per day) may not need to supplement protein.
As far as building body fat, that is just the calories in versus calories out issue. Where your fat is distributed is determined by your body, not by what foods you eat. Over-consumption of any food will cause your body to build body fat -protein is no exception.
Hope this has been some help,
waxingmoon
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: To Waxingmoon or anyone, RE: Protein powders
September 13 2007, 2:08 PM
Thanks, that's great, I was mainly concerned that eating protein that is not readily used as protein means you use it as fuel so I'm just eating calories that could have been enjoyed better in other foods.
Have you had any experience with these powders? Will I be able to mix it into yoghurt instead of making a shake? These particular brands you only seem to need a small quantity. I'm getting about 50-60g protein from 1300 cal diet. I'm 5'1 and 109 lbs.
Do you know how much of an effect metformin has on how much you can eat?
Goatwoman.
(Login Goatwoman)
protein powders
September 13 2007, 2:30 PM
Louise you and I are the same EXACT height and weight. I started doing the powders in shakes. I use either soy milk or carb countdown in mine. I also add about 1-2 ounces of cream cheese, some sugar free flavoring, about a tablespoon of coconut oil and ice cubes and blend. It is very tasty. I was doing 2 of these a day but noticed my weight going up. I cut back to one and I dropped a pound or two. I wasn't sure if it was the herbs or the drinks. I was probably getting too much protein if that is possible. I suppose it is. Do you mind also telling me your age, I am 45. I have gained one inch so far on my program, but I am also a few pounds heavier.
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: To Waxingmoon or anyone, RE: Protein powders
September 13 2007, 2:44 PM
I'm 25, have lost 27 lbs, about 18 of that jan-april and the rest since. I'm not really trying to get lower and lower as my BMI is 20.6 so if I go much lower I'll below the NBE threshold (not that you'd say I was thin as I have big thighs). Really want to work on toning and I think it may be having some effect even though I'm really lazy with it but just want to be careful that I add boobs to my body not just get fatter all over. I'm very pear shaped at the moment but hopefully when the meds kick in and I get my hormones fixed I can actually see some good results. Have you got kids? Have you done a program page? I have got a program page but wrote it with only me in mind so it's very detailed and very boring I'm afraid.
Goatwoman.
(Login Goatwoman)
Re: To Waxingmoon or anyone, RE: Protein powders
September 13 2007, 3:09 PM
I haven't done a program page yet. Yes I do have one little girl. I got pregnant late in life at 37. I have been thin most all my life but I did have to diet to lose those last stubborn pounds after being pregnant. I weighed 90 pounds most my life, but now I am 107-109. I did get down to 105 but when I started the NBE I have gained a few pounds. I do try to walk 2 miles at least 3 times a week. I am actually a 34C BUT at my age and after breastfeeding gravity is setting in and they are starting to sag some. Not terribly but enough to bother me. I want them fuller not larger but if larger comes I won't complain. I just started a couple of weeks ago so I have a long journey ahead. I will be trying some progesterone soon once I can get on an even plain with my cycle. I am doing the herbal route for now and I did add the Blossom S soap this week.