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BETH another question for you re IGF/ HGH
September 10 2008 at 8:41 AM tits2b (Login tits2b)
Hi beth - im in the same position as Kekie, post lactating, and am about to try PM soap (blossom s) and am considering using something similar to IGF losenges that ive found here in australia (contains HGH same as the IGF just a different brand). im concerned that if im not using the other herbs (the galactulates are out for me due to lactation) then the HGH might not be 'directed' to the breasts and i might start gaining unwanted weight or muscle in other areas. so i have a couple of questions:
1)were you using IGF from the very begnining of your program or did you start it part way thru? do you feel the IGF played a major part in sparking growth for you?
2)did you gain any weight or muscle in other areas that you would attribute to the IGF?
(i go to the gym a lot, about an hour a day, so im a bit paranoid about gaining too much muscle, i dont wanna turn into a body builder!)
3) you mentioned your interest in NBE was sparked by growth after drinking protien shakes, did those protien shakes contain HGH (ive noticed some shakes here in Australia do have IGF or HGH in the ingredients list) or were they just regular protien isolate type shakes? from your experience, do yo think it would be worth my while trying protien shakes in conjunction with the IGF and PM?
hope this was easy to understand!
look forward to hearing from you@
Beth
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Re: BETH another question for you re IGF/ HGH
September 10 2008, 10:18 AM
Hi Tits2b,
I did not start using IGF from the beginning, I started using it in Feb, after reading the Japanese site that Rosep posted up. I feel that the IGF played a very important role, as I believe once we past puberty our growth hormone production is not as high.
I have gained some weight, but that is because of me not being able to use the GYM for about 6 weeks after surgery and so I put on about 3lbs, however I think the IGF makes you look more toned, that is, if you already eat a lot of protein, IGF just helps you have more muscle mass compared to body fat, especially if you work out.
That is funny because I remember you saying this, am not aware of any protein shakes in the state that contain IGF, however the protein shakes I was drinking did not have IGF, they were just regular soy isolate powder mixed with milk. I think it will be worth anybodys while to drink protein shakes except for those people who have a problem digesting protein, I say this because protein is essential for good hair, skin, and nails and you just look more toned. As I stated, I initially started soy protein shakes as a supplement for hair, I just wanted to add more protein to my diet and I hate the taste of whey protein so I chose soy instead. I think you should definitely try PM and IGF, start the IGF at the recommended dose and start the PM, try to use both of them at the same time, I know of girls that grew on PM and growth factors as well as collagen and high protein diet. There were no galactogues involved in their programs. Please remember as far as you are trying PM, you must increase your calcium and vitamin D intake to get the best results. If you drink milk, this should help a lot, or if you drink orange juice try to drink the ones that are fortified with calcium and vitamin D.
So start the protein shakes immediately so your body gets used to it, do some breast massage, I know you cant do aggressive, but use a heating pad so you can get the blood flowing around the breast area, and then for the massages this would be my advice, make you hands into a fist with your thumb sticking out, and then slightly use that thumb all the way from the top middle of your breast, all around in a clockwise direction, and then massage your lymph nodes just under your armpit. Please understand its really hard to explain these massage techniques but they wont make you lactate in any way, rather they will increase blood flow and lymph drainage.
Hope I havent typed too much, I just remember taking too long to answer your question last time and I felt bad so hope this helps, let me know if you have any more questions or if anything I said is not clear. Also, please update me on how things go for you.
Take care
tits2b
(Login tits2b)
awesome~
September 10 2008, 12:38 PM
thanks so much beth! this will defniately help - ill be on the soy shakes as of tomorrow! i dont have dairy in my diet, but i do drink calcium fortified soy, and the soy protien isolate i have has added calcium in it so i should be ok.
i think i get the idea of the massage technique, i was doing the 300 rotations daily till i freaked out about the milk production thing! ill start again a lil less agressive and see how i go.
off to ebay to order my pm gum!
thanks so much!
Babs
(Login Babs)
IGF-1 lozenges
June 13 2009, 10:05 PM
Hi, I just got some NOW Foods IGF-1 Lozenges.
http://www.luckyvitamin.com/item/itemKey/49496
Does anyone know how much I should be taking a day?
Tiffany
(Login Tiffany)
IGF-1 lozenges
June 13 2009, 11:26 PM
I know beth was taken 1-2 tablets of IGF a day.
She bought the same NOW IGF-1 lozenges.
September 10 2008 at 8:41 AM tits2b (Login tits2b)
Hi beth - im in the same position as Kekie, post lactating, and am about to try PM soap (blossom s) and am considering using something similar to IGF losenges that ive found here in australia (contains HGH same as the IGF just a different brand). im concerned that if im not using the other herbs (the galactulates are out for me due to lactation) then the HGH might not be 'directed' to the breasts and i might start gaining unwanted weight or muscle in other areas. so i have a couple of questions:
1)were you using IGF from the very begnining of your program or did you start it part way thru? do you feel the IGF played a major part in sparking growth for you?
2)did you gain any weight or muscle in other areas that you would attribute to the IGF?
(i go to the gym a lot, about an hour a day, so im a bit paranoid about gaining too much muscle, i dont wanna turn into a body builder!)
3) you mentioned your interest in NBE was sparked by growth after drinking protien shakes, did those protien shakes contain HGH (ive noticed some shakes here in Australia do have IGF or HGH in the ingredients list) or were they just regular protien isolate type shakes? from your experience, do yo think it would be worth my while trying protien shakes in conjunction with the IGF and PM?
hope this was easy to understand!
look forward to hearing from you@
Beth
(Login Boobsrock)
Re: BETH another question for you re IGF/ HGH
September 10 2008, 10:18 AM
Hi Tits2b,
I did not start using IGF from the beginning, I started using it in Feb, after reading the Japanese site that Rosep posted up. I feel that the IGF played a very important role, as I believe once we past puberty our growth hormone production is not as high.
I have gained some weight, but that is because of me not being able to use the GYM for about 6 weeks after surgery and so I put on about 3lbs, however I think the IGF makes you look more toned, that is, if you already eat a lot of protein, IGF just helps you have more muscle mass compared to body fat, especially if you work out.
That is funny because I remember you saying this, am not aware of any protein shakes in the state that contain IGF, however the protein shakes I was drinking did not have IGF, they were just regular soy isolate powder mixed with milk. I think it will be worth anybodys while to drink protein shakes except for those people who have a problem digesting protein, I say this because protein is essential for good hair, skin, and nails and you just look more toned. As I stated, I initially started soy protein shakes as a supplement for hair, I just wanted to add more protein to my diet and I hate the taste of whey protein so I chose soy instead. I think you should definitely try PM and IGF, start the IGF at the recommended dose and start the PM, try to use both of them at the same time, I know of girls that grew on PM and growth factors as well as collagen and high protein diet. There were no galactogues involved in their programs. Please remember as far as you are trying PM, you must increase your calcium and vitamin D intake to get the best results. If you drink milk, this should help a lot, or if you drink orange juice try to drink the ones that are fortified with calcium and vitamin D.
So start the protein shakes immediately so your body gets used to it, do some breast massage, I know you cant do aggressive, but use a heating pad so you can get the blood flowing around the breast area, and then for the massages this would be my advice, make you hands into a fist with your thumb sticking out, and then slightly use that thumb all the way from the top middle of your breast, all around in a clockwise direction, and then massage your lymph nodes just under your armpit. Please understand its really hard to explain these massage techniques but they wont make you lactate in any way, rather they will increase blood flow and lymph drainage.
Hope I havent typed too much, I just remember taking too long to answer your question last time and I felt bad so hope this helps, let me know if you have any more questions or if anything I said is not clear. Also, please update me on how things go for you.
Take care
tits2b
(Login tits2b)
awesome~
September 10 2008, 12:38 PM
thanks so much beth! this will defniately help - ill be on the soy shakes as of tomorrow! i dont have dairy in my diet, but i do drink calcium fortified soy, and the soy protien isolate i have has added calcium in it so i should be ok.
i think i get the idea of the massage technique, i was doing the 300 rotations daily till i freaked out about the milk production thing! ill start again a lil less agressive and see how i go.
off to ebay to order my pm gum!
thanks so much!
Babs
(Login Babs)
IGF-1 lozenges
June 13 2009, 10:05 PM
Hi, I just got some NOW Foods IGF-1 Lozenges.
http://www.luckyvitamin.com/item/itemKey/49496
Does anyone know how much I should be taking a day?
Tiffany
(Login Tiffany)
IGF-1 lozenges
June 13 2009, 11:26 PM
I know beth was taken 1-2 tablets of IGF a day.
She bought the same NOW IGF-1 lozenges.