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Theory on caffeine - ISN'T bad for NBE...
November 11 2006 at 4:33 PM Moon (Login -Moon-)
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Hi ladies, while I do my research I sometimes come across info that makes me realize something or pose a theory and I thought I'd share it with you.
It has been said since always that caffeine is bad for NBE, but lately we could hear that it's not sooo critical, like that 5 caffeined drinks per day are ok and as well seen sucess stories of girls who drink coffee. I was told that cafeeined is supposed to be bad for NBE becasue it causes raised insuline and testosterone levels in the body. While reading on estrogene defficiency I learnt that this is actually causes by too low activity of the enzyme aromatase, which converts testosterone into estrogene (estradiol?). If I understand correctly, that is the only way estradiol is formed in our body (someone correct me if I'm mistaking). So what we want to do is increase the activity of aromatase.
Wikipedia says:
Factors known to increase aromatase activity include age, obesity, insulin, gonadotropins, and alcohol. Aromatase activity is decreased by prolactin, AMH, and smoking. Aromatase activity appears to be enhanced in certain estrogen-dependent local tissue next to breast cancer, endometrial cancer, endometriosis, and uterine fibroids.
So if insuline increases testosterone levels, that's ok cause it also increases activity of aromatase. I think we shouldn't try to get our androgens as low as possible, because then we won't get any estrogens either. Alcohol of course wouldn't really help our NBE becasue of its noumerous other bad effects.
Just thought I'd share this with you, if anyone has additional knowledge or oppinion, feel free to contribute.
Lilly
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Re: Theory on caffeine - ISN'T bad for NBE...
November 13 2006, 2:05 AM
I dont have anything useful to add......just wanted to say I hope you are right!!! I love my coffee and found it hard enough going without thru 2 pregnancies.
x
Moon
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Re: Theory on caffeine - ISN'T bad for NBE...
November 15 2006, 2:42 PM
Hehe, I understand perfectly, it was hard for me to give up coffe for NBE because I am totally useless without it, but it has shown in practice as many girls grew on coffee too, we must not over do it of course.
Sylvie
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Re: Theory on caffeine - ISN'T bad for NBE...
November 16 2006, 12:05 AM
We have seen in this forum of course that some coffee drinkers have grown on NBE programs.
November 11 2006 at 4:33 PM Moon (Login -Moon-)
SENIOR MEMBER
Hi ladies, while I do my research I sometimes come across info that makes me realize something or pose a theory and I thought I'd share it with you.
It has been said since always that caffeine is bad for NBE, but lately we could hear that it's not sooo critical, like that 5 caffeined drinks per day are ok and as well seen sucess stories of girls who drink coffee. I was told that cafeeined is supposed to be bad for NBE becasue it causes raised insuline and testosterone levels in the body. While reading on estrogene defficiency I learnt that this is actually causes by too low activity of the enzyme aromatase, which converts testosterone into estrogene (estradiol?). If I understand correctly, that is the only way estradiol is formed in our body (someone correct me if I'm mistaking). So what we want to do is increase the activity of aromatase.
Wikipedia says:
Factors known to increase aromatase activity include age, obesity, insulin, gonadotropins, and alcohol. Aromatase activity is decreased by prolactin, AMH, and smoking. Aromatase activity appears to be enhanced in certain estrogen-dependent local tissue next to breast cancer, endometrial cancer, endometriosis, and uterine fibroids.
So if insuline increases testosterone levels, that's ok cause it also increases activity of aromatase. I think we shouldn't try to get our androgens as low as possible, because then we won't get any estrogens either. Alcohol of course wouldn't really help our NBE becasue of its noumerous other bad effects.
Just thought I'd share this with you, if anyone has additional knowledge or oppinion, feel free to contribute.
Lilly
(no login)
Re: Theory on caffeine - ISN'T bad for NBE...
November 13 2006, 2:05 AM
I dont have anything useful to add......just wanted to say I hope you are right!!! I love my coffee and found it hard enough going without thru 2 pregnancies.
x
Moon
(Login -Moon-)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Theory on caffeine - ISN'T bad for NBE...
November 15 2006, 2:42 PM
Hehe, I understand perfectly, it was hard for me to give up coffe for NBE because I am totally useless without it, but it has shown in practice as many girls grew on coffee too, we must not over do it of course.
Sylvie
(Login Sylvie)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Theory on caffeine - ISN'T bad for NBE...
November 16 2006, 12:05 AM
We have seen in this forum of course that some coffee drinkers have grown on NBE programs.