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Oat bran
February 25 2007 at 8:42 PM dandelion (Login dandelion1)
Can anyone confirm that oat bran doesn't contain phytoestrogens, only fiber?
so_lost
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swanson
February 26 2007, 8:13 PM
hey dandelion--Are you following Eve m's program?
I'm trying to order the same herbs on swanson and I can't figure out if oats (mentined on Eve M's program) is the same as the oats bran? and some of the dosage is high compared to Eve m's. can you advise the dosage to take and where did you get the lotions and tea?
dandelion
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Re: fenugreek : extract vs seed for potency
February 26 2007, 11:12 PM
hi! i have oats bran as well and the dosage is 850mg ; but i rarely take them. I'm using a simplified version of eve's program : using fenugreek, fennel, stinging nettle, and 1ml (=500mg) of vitex in fennel tea.
the teas i bought at a local health food store. i bought fennel in tea sachets, and hops tea that i have to make on my own (boil water with the tea and drain the tea leaves). hops tea is gross, but i believe it's vital. eve uses hops in tea, massage, and internally. i will likely be adding it in about a month.
the lotions are home-made : eve used starflower (same as borage), so do i, however i believe eve added some ingredients.
i have not had the same results as eve; i will be switching from stinging nettle to sawpalmetto in a week, adding hops the following week. i haven't decided if i will take vitex in capsul form - if nothing happens a month after adding the hops i'll probably add it in.
hope this helps!
dandelion
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Re: fenugreek : extract vs seed for potency
February 26 2007, 11:13 PM
as for the dosages; about 1800mg of each herb is pretty standard - of course that depends on how many herbs and which herbs you are taking together
so_lost
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Re: Oat bran
February 27 2007, 6:22 AM
thanx dandelion....hope u get good results with that. I was thinking of ordering wonderup...but 6 bottles plus a cream on vortex runs at $300 bucks! thats kinda pricey....
dandelion
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Re: Oat bran
February 27 2007, 3:31 PM
it does seem pricey because your buying it all at once, but really for six bottles it's worth it (or so i think)
so_lost
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Re: Oat bran
February 27 2007, 6:08 PM
yeah....I'm debating if I should get the wonderup plus one cream right now b/c gathering the herbs individually is so much trouble.
Miss Monet
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Re: Oat bran
March 7 2007, 8:37 PM
hey so lost,
i'm trying to follow Eve's program too (mostly). i heard oat bran doesn't contain phytoestrogens, only fiber, so perhaps these might help considering they're oat extract?
http://www.iherb.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?c=Herbs&pid=PTF-10301
http://www.iherb.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?c=Herbs&pid=ECL-30903
Eve, if you're reading this, do you think you can help clarify? or anyone really. LOL
Eve M
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Re: Oat bran
March 7 2007, 10:37 PM
The second one looks good. The first one you listed is actually a combination of oats and 9 other herbs, so it's not what you want, although it's said to be a product for women. The second one would be fine.
so_lost
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Re: Oat bran
March 7 2007, 10:37 PM
someone told me that oat bran is not the right one....i'm not sure which one is the correct one or not...but I ordered wu already....I was thinking of getting additional herbs like linseed and soya to go with the wu....but I think i'll try wu for a while first and see what result wu will give. if oat bran is the correct oats that eve took then fantastic, I'll add that into my program. thanks!!
Eve M
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Re: Oat bran
March 7 2007, 10:42 PM
No it wasn't the oat bran I took, it was the oat seeds (avena sativa seed).
Miss Monet
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Avena Sativa (Oat seeds)
March 8 2007, 2:18 AM
hey So Lost,
i found a bunch of info. on Avena Sativa (oat seeds) and made a post about it in the "Info. on Herbs" section. you should check it out!
Ann5
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Re: fenugreek : extract vs seed for potency
March 8 2007, 5:46 PM
Eve,
Is wild oat straw the same?
Eve M
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EVE MEMBERS
Re: fenugreek : extract vs seed for potency
March 8 2007, 10:22 PM
The answer to that is no, oat straw isn't the same thing as oat seed.
Ann5
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Re: fenugreek : extract vs seed for potency
March 9 2007, 4:34 AM
It's very hard to find oat seeds. Whenever I search the net for avena sativa I get wild oats/oat straw. The closest thing I got was this (www.poopsiecat.com/seedsinfo.html), which is for planting and it's for cats! lol
Do you think it's hard to find in the states? If so would there be a good substitute for it? Thanks.
Eve M
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EVE MEMBERS
Re: Oat bran
March 9 2007, 9:53 AM
Miss Monet managed to find oat seed in the US and posted a link above. Here it is again:
http://www.iherb.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?c=Herbs&pid=ECL-30903
Ann5
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Re: Oat bran
March 9 2007, 5:23 PM
Ahh, ok. I missed it. Thank you.
February 25 2007 at 8:42 PM dandelion (Login dandelion1)
Can anyone confirm that oat bran doesn't contain phytoestrogens, only fiber?
so_lost
(Login so_lost)
swanson
February 26 2007, 8:13 PM
hey dandelion--Are you following Eve m's program?
I'm trying to order the same herbs on swanson and I can't figure out if oats (mentined on Eve M's program) is the same as the oats bran? and some of the dosage is high compared to Eve m's. can you advise the dosage to take and where did you get the lotions and tea?
dandelion
(Login dandelion1)
Re: fenugreek : extract vs seed for potency
February 26 2007, 11:12 PM
hi! i have oats bran as well and the dosage is 850mg ; but i rarely take them. I'm using a simplified version of eve's program : using fenugreek, fennel, stinging nettle, and 1ml (=500mg) of vitex in fennel tea.
the teas i bought at a local health food store. i bought fennel in tea sachets, and hops tea that i have to make on my own (boil water with the tea and drain the tea leaves). hops tea is gross, but i believe it's vital. eve uses hops in tea, massage, and internally. i will likely be adding it in about a month.
the lotions are home-made : eve used starflower (same as borage), so do i, however i believe eve added some ingredients.
i have not had the same results as eve; i will be switching from stinging nettle to sawpalmetto in a week, adding hops the following week. i haven't decided if i will take vitex in capsul form - if nothing happens a month after adding the hops i'll probably add it in.
hope this helps!
dandelion
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Re: fenugreek : extract vs seed for potency
February 26 2007, 11:13 PM
as for the dosages; about 1800mg of each herb is pretty standard - of course that depends on how many herbs and which herbs you are taking together
so_lost
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Re: Oat bran
February 27 2007, 6:22 AM
thanx dandelion....hope u get good results with that. I was thinking of ordering wonderup...but 6 bottles plus a cream on vortex runs at $300 bucks! thats kinda pricey....
dandelion
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Re: Oat bran
February 27 2007, 3:31 PM
it does seem pricey because your buying it all at once, but really for six bottles it's worth it (or so i think)
so_lost
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Re: Oat bran
February 27 2007, 6:08 PM
yeah....I'm debating if I should get the wonderup plus one cream right now b/c gathering the herbs individually is so much trouble.
Miss Monet
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Oat bran
March 7 2007, 8:37 PM
hey so lost,
i'm trying to follow Eve's program too (mostly). i heard oat bran doesn't contain phytoestrogens, only fiber, so perhaps these might help considering they're oat extract?
http://www.iherb.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?c=Herbs&pid=PTF-10301
http://www.iherb.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?c=Herbs&pid=ECL-30903
Eve, if you're reading this, do you think you can help clarify? or anyone really. LOL
Eve M
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EVE MEMBERS
Re: Oat bran
March 7 2007, 10:37 PM
The second one looks good. The first one you listed is actually a combination of oats and 9 other herbs, so it's not what you want, although it's said to be a product for women. The second one would be fine.
so_lost
(Login so_lost)
Re: Oat bran
March 7 2007, 10:37 PM
someone told me that oat bran is not the right one....i'm not sure which one is the correct one or not...but I ordered wu already....I was thinking of getting additional herbs like linseed and soya to go with the wu....but I think i'll try wu for a while first and see what result wu will give. if oat bran is the correct oats that eve took then fantastic, I'll add that into my program. thanks!!
Eve M
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EVE MEMBERS
Re: Oat bran
March 7 2007, 10:42 PM
No it wasn't the oat bran I took, it was the oat seeds (avena sativa seed).
Miss Monet
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SENIOR MEMBER
Avena Sativa (Oat seeds)
March 8 2007, 2:18 AM
hey So Lost,
i found a bunch of info. on Avena Sativa (oat seeds) and made a post about it in the "Info. on Herbs" section. you should check it out!
Ann5
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: fenugreek : extract vs seed for potency
March 8 2007, 5:46 PM
Eve,
Is wild oat straw the same?
Eve M
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EVE MEMBERS
Re: fenugreek : extract vs seed for potency
March 8 2007, 10:22 PM
The answer to that is no, oat straw isn't the same thing as oat seed.
Ann5
(Login Ann5)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: fenugreek : extract vs seed for potency
March 9 2007, 4:34 AM
It's very hard to find oat seeds. Whenever I search the net for avena sativa I get wild oats/oat straw. The closest thing I got was this (www.poopsiecat.com/seedsinfo.html), which is for planting and it's for cats! lol
Do you think it's hard to find in the states? If so would there be a good substitute for it? Thanks.
Eve M
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EVE MEMBERS
Re: Oat bran
March 9 2007, 9:53 AM
Miss Monet managed to find oat seed in the US and posted a link above. Here it is again:
http://www.iherb.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?c=Herbs&pid=ECL-30903
Ann5
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Oat bran
March 9 2007, 5:23 PM
Ahh, ok. I missed it. Thank you.