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dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 6 2007 at 6:30 PM lil dunny (Login lil_dunny)
so it _appears_ that varying one's program throughout the cycle is more effective than staying on the same herbs continuously. it's true that one can do a great deal of research about the effects of each herb yet it's difficult to foretell how the body will react to a particular herb at a particular time. while there are some broad guidelines to follow, and there is always a trial-and-error selection process, it seems that dowsing is the best way to go about calibrating one's herbal routine.
i'm wondering if people have successfully used dowsing to determine which herbs to be taking at different parts of the cycle, as i am strongly leaning in that direction myself.
Lucy
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Re: dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 7 2007, 10:25 AM
I'm not sure if anyone here can help. Maybe the best thing is to consult your local witchdoctor.
gingerD
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Re: dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 7 2007, 12:11 PM
LIL D-
Now this dowsing thing, really intreages me im fasinated.I thaught it was for finding water and ghosts, yet it seems alot are doing it but i didnt really find info on why and how.
I know it involves using a pendulum, but could you please explain to me how dowsing helps NBE etc
Many thanks GD
lil dunny
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Re: dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 7 2007, 4:32 PM
i am my own local witchdoctor
this stuff is no weirder than reiki, or EFT, both of which i've seen mentioned here as useful to help NBE.
you find an appropriate pendulum (mine is an evenly cut quartz crystal on a silver chain) and you establish a relationship with it (which may take a little while). you request to please show a 'yes' answer, thinking 'yes' strongly... it'll swing one way or another. then you request to please show a 'no' answer, thinking 'no' strongly... same for 'maybe' answer. you can then ask a few yes or no questions, but at this point the results are likely to be inconsistent. lay the pendulum down for a few days and repeat again later. second or third time it should start showing consistent yes and no answers, which means soon you can ask questions about NBE. it is important to request guidance, and then to give thanks after you've dowsed. it is also important to ask very specific questions, i.e. 'is this healthy for me?' 'will this, taken at this time, help me to healthfully increase my breast size?' rather than 'is this good for me?' or 'will this work?' i prefer to place the herb/supplement that i'm asking about right underneath the pendulum, or in my hand.
the idea is that by using the pendulum you tune into your own inner knowledge/guidance so you develop the way of doing this that works best for you.
here are a couple links with a few more guidelines:
http://www.feelingfree.net/awareness/selftest.htm
http://www.crystaltiger.com/sa02003.htm
best of luck!
lil dunny
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Re: dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 7 2007, 6:50 PM
oh, one more thing: i don't dowse based on no information at all - i'm still learning everything i can about the herbs and use dowsing to select particular herb combos for a particular time...
lil dunny
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Re: dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 7 2007, 8:21 PM
realized i didn't really answer the question.
the general idea is that your body intrinsically knows what's good for it and what isn't (far-fetched, perhaps), but you can't access that information with your conscious mind. same idea as when you go on intuition, or a hunch - oftentimes you don't know what the actual reasons are but it turns out just right. using dowsing (or else people use muscle testing, as described in one of the links) you 'tune into' that knowledge and if you ask specific enough questions you should be able to get good answers...
TB
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Equator
March 7 2007, 9:07 PM
Don't forget to compensate for the rotation of the Earth. If you are below the Equator then your answers will be reversed. If you are on the Equator face North to correct a "No" answer and South to correct a "Yes" answer. If you are on the extreme northern part of Earth there should be no problem. On the extreme south of the Earth the pendulum may point upwards (relatively speaking) if it is not heavy enough.
Anonymous
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Re: dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 7 2007, 10:07 PM
Lil Dunny, I understand your explanation about personal intuition, but do you know why people say they can dowse for others? If dowsing is tapping in to what your own body needs, how could a stranger pick up on that? I've always been confused by that claim. It did not play out well when people dowsed for me, nor when I dowsed for myself, but I mostly did it out of despair . Not trying to be argumentative at all, just curious if you knew more about the reasoning behind this part of the practice.
Thank you!
lil dunny
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Re: dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 7 2007, 10:36 PM
heh well this is a bit of an existential/philosophical question, but i'll see if i can answer satisfactorily:
the short answer is yes, i believe it is possible though i would imagine most people cannot do it (though they may claim/believe they can)
the longer answer, the way i see it anyway, lies well beyond NBE in the idea that everything is connected and that the microcosm of one's brain contains all of the macrocosm around, such that every event on the 'outside', even if it's not directly connected to you, is reflected in/is a reflection of the 'inside'. given this as a postulate, yes, it should be possible to dowse for other people.
lil dunny
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March 7 2007, 10:39 PM
http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~gotsman/Escher/Images/Escher/ball.jpg
Anonymous
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Re: dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 8 2007, 10:39 PM
Thanks for the explanation. I will take a look at the link, too.
Wahaika
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dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 9 2007, 2:08 AM
I will say this and you can take it for what it's worth as my observations on dowsing as it has been tried for NBE.
1. Dowsing, at best, is just another form of cycling herbs. Whether you carefully plan out your dosages, dowse, flip a coin, whatever, the result is the same, minus the ouija board type method that dowsing is.
2. I had conversations with beboard members quite often that tried dowsing and it did not work. The blame was always placed on them when it did not work and the credit went to the swinging rock for all successes.
3. Dowsing gives the illusion of intelligence to inanimate objects - like a rock or a chain. When you see people apoligizing or thanking their pendulum, isn't that taking it a bit too far?
4. Dowsing, while spoken of in scientific terms by some, has no scientific foundation whatsoever. Not that NBE has a foundation that a Ph.D. would accept either, but to put dowsing on the same level as ramping herbs or trial and error, which have far better track records, is to overstate the effectiveness of dowsing.
5. And don't even start me on the religous implications.
My 2 cents,
Wahaika
lil dunny
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Re: dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 9 2007, 2:30 AM
heh well just a couple of comments...
- up until very recently there's been no scientific proof that, say, qigong works and chi exists at all, but now there is. the whole field of bioenergetics is very little studied in general, but that doesn't mean bioenergy isn't real
- i don't thank the pendulum when i am done asking, i just kind of... give thanks. in general i try to give/experience mini-thanks/appreciations when it feels appropriate. i just let them out into the Universe. i think this practice does wonders for one's overall sense of well-being.
- religious implications... yeah i guess i'm a bit of a pantheist, to be sure! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism)
- as i mentioned i don't dowse 'blindly' - i do my research; i try this herb and that, and some work better sometimes, and others work better other times. i also go on 'hunches' - though these i especially like to test with the pendulum.
TB
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Whaaat?
March 9 2007, 4:24 AM
You don't "dowse blindly". That is such a funny statement. Please try and remember it as it will give you a big laugh someday. To be so engaged in a medieval concept like dowsing and then say you don't do it blindly is hilarious. I can't even think of a metaphor for such a statement. I hope you drive your car with you eyes open. When you hit the brakes the pendulum will tell you your are stopping by leaning towards the front of the car and vice versa for accelerating. There will be a micro second lapse, kind of like the lapse of judgment you are experiencing by engaging is such a ridiculous pursuit, except infinitely shorter. Can you divine water with a Y shaped stick? Point it to your bladder when you have to go pee for a point of reference.
March 6 2007 at 6:30 PM lil dunny (Login lil_dunny)
so it _appears_ that varying one's program throughout the cycle is more effective than staying on the same herbs continuously. it's true that one can do a great deal of research about the effects of each herb yet it's difficult to foretell how the body will react to a particular herb at a particular time. while there are some broad guidelines to follow, and there is always a trial-and-error selection process, it seems that dowsing is the best way to go about calibrating one's herbal routine.
i'm wondering if people have successfully used dowsing to determine which herbs to be taking at different parts of the cycle, as i am strongly leaning in that direction myself.
Lucy
(no login)
Re: dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 7 2007, 10:25 AM
I'm not sure if anyone here can help. Maybe the best thing is to consult your local witchdoctor.
gingerD
(Login gingerD)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 7 2007, 12:11 PM
LIL D-
Now this dowsing thing, really intreages me im fasinated.I thaught it was for finding water and ghosts, yet it seems alot are doing it but i didnt really find info on why and how.
I know it involves using a pendulum, but could you please explain to me how dowsing helps NBE etc
Many thanks GD
lil dunny
(Login lil_dunny)
Re: dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 7 2007, 4:32 PM
i am my own local witchdoctor
this stuff is no weirder than reiki, or EFT, both of which i've seen mentioned here as useful to help NBE.
you find an appropriate pendulum (mine is an evenly cut quartz crystal on a silver chain) and you establish a relationship with it (which may take a little while). you request to please show a 'yes' answer, thinking 'yes' strongly... it'll swing one way or another. then you request to please show a 'no' answer, thinking 'no' strongly... same for 'maybe' answer. you can then ask a few yes or no questions, but at this point the results are likely to be inconsistent. lay the pendulum down for a few days and repeat again later. second or third time it should start showing consistent yes and no answers, which means soon you can ask questions about NBE. it is important to request guidance, and then to give thanks after you've dowsed. it is also important to ask very specific questions, i.e. 'is this healthy for me?' 'will this, taken at this time, help me to healthfully increase my breast size?' rather than 'is this good for me?' or 'will this work?' i prefer to place the herb/supplement that i'm asking about right underneath the pendulum, or in my hand.
the idea is that by using the pendulum you tune into your own inner knowledge/guidance so you develop the way of doing this that works best for you.
here are a couple links with a few more guidelines:
http://www.feelingfree.net/awareness/selftest.htm
http://www.crystaltiger.com/sa02003.htm
best of luck!
lil dunny
(Login lil_dunny)
Re: dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 7 2007, 6:50 PM
oh, one more thing: i don't dowse based on no information at all - i'm still learning everything i can about the herbs and use dowsing to select particular herb combos for a particular time...
lil dunny
(Login lil_dunny)
Re: dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 7 2007, 8:21 PM
realized i didn't really answer the question.
the general idea is that your body intrinsically knows what's good for it and what isn't (far-fetched, perhaps), but you can't access that information with your conscious mind. same idea as when you go on intuition, or a hunch - oftentimes you don't know what the actual reasons are but it turns out just right. using dowsing (or else people use muscle testing, as described in one of the links) you 'tune into' that knowledge and if you ask specific enough questions you should be able to get good answers...
TB
(no login)
Equator
March 7 2007, 9:07 PM
Don't forget to compensate for the rotation of the Earth. If you are below the Equator then your answers will be reversed. If you are on the Equator face North to correct a "No" answer and South to correct a "Yes" answer. If you are on the extreme northern part of Earth there should be no problem. On the extreme south of the Earth the pendulum may point upwards (relatively speaking) if it is not heavy enough.
Anonymous
(Login Teresina)
Re: dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 7 2007, 10:07 PM
Lil Dunny, I understand your explanation about personal intuition, but do you know why people say they can dowse for others? If dowsing is tapping in to what your own body needs, how could a stranger pick up on that? I've always been confused by that claim. It did not play out well when people dowsed for me, nor when I dowsed for myself, but I mostly did it out of despair . Not trying to be argumentative at all, just curious if you knew more about the reasoning behind this part of the practice.
Thank you!
lil dunny
(Login lil_dunny)
Re: dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 7 2007, 10:36 PM
heh well this is a bit of an existential/philosophical question, but i'll see if i can answer satisfactorily:
the short answer is yes, i believe it is possible though i would imagine most people cannot do it (though they may claim/believe they can)
the longer answer, the way i see it anyway, lies well beyond NBE in the idea that everything is connected and that the microcosm of one's brain contains all of the macrocosm around, such that every event on the 'outside', even if it's not directly connected to you, is reflected in/is a reflection of the 'inside'. given this as a postulate, yes, it should be possible to dowse for other people.
lil dunny
(Login lil_dunny)
a picture
March 7 2007, 10:39 PM
http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~gotsman/Escher/Images/Escher/ball.jpg
Anonymous
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Re: dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 8 2007, 10:39 PM
Thanks for the explanation.
I will take a look at the link, too.Wahaika
(Login Wahaika)
SENIOR MEMBER
dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 9 2007, 2:08 AM
I will say this and you can take it for what it's worth as my observations on dowsing as it has been tried for NBE.
1. Dowsing, at best, is just another form of cycling herbs. Whether you carefully plan out your dosages, dowse, flip a coin, whatever, the result is the same, minus the ouija board type method that dowsing is.
2. I had conversations with beboard members quite often that tried dowsing and it did not work. The blame was always placed on them when it did not work and the credit went to the swinging rock for all successes.
3. Dowsing gives the illusion of intelligence to inanimate objects - like a rock or a chain. When you see people apoligizing or thanking their pendulum, isn't that taking it a bit too far?
4. Dowsing, while spoken of in scientific terms by some, has no scientific foundation whatsoever. Not that NBE has a foundation that a Ph.D. would accept either, but to put dowsing on the same level as ramping herbs or trial and error, which have far better track records, is to overstate the effectiveness of dowsing.
5. And don't even start me on the religous implications.
My 2 cents,
Wahaika
lil dunny
(Login lil_dunny)
Re: dowsing and cycle-customized routines
March 9 2007, 2:30 AM
heh well just a couple of comments...
- up until very recently there's been no scientific proof that, say, qigong works and chi exists at all, but now there is. the whole field of bioenergetics is very little studied in general, but that doesn't mean bioenergy isn't real
- i don't thank the pendulum when i am done asking, i just kind of... give thanks. in general i try to give/experience mini-thanks/appreciations when it feels appropriate. i just let them out into the Universe. i think this practice does wonders for one's overall sense of well-being.
- religious implications... yeah i guess i'm a bit of a pantheist, to be sure! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism)
- as i mentioned i don't dowse 'blindly' - i do my research; i try this herb and that, and some work better sometimes, and others work better other times. i also go on 'hunches' - though these i especially like to test with the pendulum.
TB
(no login)
Whaaat?
March 9 2007, 4:24 AM
You don't "dowse blindly". That is such a funny statement. Please try and remember it as it will give you a big laugh someday. To be so engaged in a medieval concept like dowsing and then say you don't do it blindly is hilarious. I can't even think of a metaphor for such a statement. I hope you drive your car with you eyes open. When you hit the brakes the pendulum will tell you your are stopping by leaning towards the front of the car and vice versa for accelerating. There will be a micro second lapse, kind of like the lapse of judgment you are experiencing by engaging is such a ridiculous pursuit, except infinitely shorter. Can you divine water with a Y shaped stick? Point it to your bladder when you have to go pee for a point of reference.