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dowsing
September 15 2005 at 9:12 AM wtf (no login)
What is dowsing? I hear it all the time, and it apparantly works, but i have no idea what it is!!
Anonymous
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Re: dowsing
September 15 2005, 11:15 AM
Dowsing is when you use a pendulum or dvining rod to tell you e.g. how much herbs your body needs. The dowser basically swings in different directions for yes and no, and you can ask questions. People use it for all different kinds of things, one popular one is the detection of electromagnetic fields in homes. You can google it and will find lots of more specific information if you are interested in knowing more.
SugarQ
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Re: dowsing
September 15 2005, 3:12 PM
lots of women had success with dowsing and NBE. look up Wenonae in particular. she will give you all the info you need.
Lucie
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Re: dowsing
September 15 2005, 8:49 PM
Dowsing is a form of whichcraft which explores the realm where human consciousness meets and dialogues with the Spirit of the Earth. It empowers the harmonious interaction between person and answer and enables the person to seek out the required answer with the aid of a hand held instrument. Dowsers are empowered to locate and shape these answers in harmony with both the physical and the spiritual environment of the Earth, demonstrating that the intellect has little to do on the road to discovery and that the essence of true discovery is a leap of the consciousness.
Anonymous
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Re: dowsing
September 16 2005, 1:56 AM
In my opinion dowsing is really stupid. There have been quite a few people who say that it has told them to do the wrong thing. If you believe something, you can make yourself believe it is working, you make yourself see what you want to see. If it doesnt work, they make up an excuse on why it told them to do the wrong thing, whatever.
No offense to anyone who is dowsing or believes in it, my opinion is that it is stupid and fake and if you use them, you will see what you want to see.
Jennelle
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Re: dowsing
September 16 2005, 10:42 AM
Dowsing is a manifestation of the paranormal. The people who believe it works are people who believe in the paranormal world, but it goes without saying that nothing in the paranormal world has ever been proven, and so there is no basis for saying that it apparently works as you did above. But if you are a true believer you will doubtless argue that proof is not necessary. Even SugarQ who often moans here about the lack of evidence for herbal breast enhancement, lack of before and after pictures etc etc, even she has overlooked the fact that the idea of dowsing is not supported by any evidence whatsoever. It's funny how the things she chooses to believe in aren't required to have any evidence to support them, when she chooses to criticise other things for exactly that reason.
Hazina
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Re: dowsing
September 16 2005, 7:35 PM
Dowsing is not stupid or fake. It is an ancient skill traditionally used for healing, and witchdoctors and complementary therapists still use it widely today to diagnose ills and to help them cast spells for a patient.
ChristinaJBK
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Re: dowsing
September 17 2005, 10:14 PM
Im not knocking anyone who is dowsing or believes in it. Myself, I think it is completely nonsense. If dowsing did in fact work, every hospital and Drs office would use them because that would be the cheapest way for them to know what was wrong with you, therefore the profit margin would increase for the Drs and hospitals.
And I believe that nobody would have any diseases anymore either. Dowsing would discover the disease and let you know how to heal it.
If you notice which countries still practice witchcraft and dowsing as healing are the poorest countries. They have no alternative methods. That is all they know and all they can afford.
You are not looking at the big picture. You are seeing only the times that dowsing supposedly works(just a coincidense), not the majority of time when it actually doesnt. What is the mortality rate in those poor countries who use dowsing and witchcraft as their medicine? Pretty darn high isnt it?
Anonymous
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Re: dowsing
September 17 2005, 11:06 PM
That the mortality rate in those countries is so high might have something to do with them not having enough clean water, enough food and the adequate medical provisions on hand, and many of those countries are dealing with high numbers of people who are infected with HIV. I don't think the reason that they all die early is due to them using witchcraft and dowsing, to suggest this shows a very narrow view of the world.
Also in western, rich countries thousands of people die every year because of unnecessary/wrong surgeries and drug treatments.
I don't say that dowsing is great and can heal every disease but I don't think that this is what people who use dowsing say. Dowsing for example is used to detect and eliminate negative energy fields in your body in order for your body to be able to heal, whether this is true or not is hard to determine scientifically, which might be one of the many reasons why doctors in westernised countries don't use this method, which does not mean it doesn't or hasn't worked to help some people.
Also I have never seen any where that someone claims dowsing can and will heal any and every disease. There are some diseases people will die from whether they use western traditional medicine or witchcraft.
To condemn something only because it hasn't been proven or isn't practised that much in the western world is being ignorant and to pretend as if western medicine is the best there is is just naive.
You yourself are using alternative medicine to increase your breast size and I haven't seen any doctor recommending these herbs to you either when you go and ask what you can take to get bigger boobs.
I am not dowsing myself or trying to say that dowsing works, I don't think that it is very constructive to condemn something only because you don't understand or agree with it.
The person who started this discussion only asked what dowsing was, which I think has been answered. Any comments regarding the effectiveness of this technique or the uselessness of it I can't see as being relevant in any way.
Amber
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Re: dowsing
September 18 2005, 4:30 AM
To the anonymous person who posted the last thing on here. This is a forum where anyone can give their opinion about anything. From what I was reading on here it does not seem like anyone was criticizing dowsing. To me they were just giving their belief on the matter. I have not dowsed and do not plan on doing it but it is nice to hear everyones opinion on the matter being it negative or positive.
Heather
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Re: dowsing
September 18 2005, 10:39 AM
As a newcomer here I am surprised to be reading about dowsing and the casting of spells, but as far as I am concerned all information is valuable and all contributions welcome. But the thing that surprised me the most was the anonymour person just above who said "Any comments regarding the effectiveness of this technique or the uselessness of it I can't see as being relevant in any way". Well I agree with Amber that the whole point of having a forum must be to share information and opinions on something whether negative or positive. If we can't discuss the effectiveness or uselessness of something I can't see what the point would be in having a forum at all.
NONE
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RE: Dowsing
September 25 2005, 3:46 AM
THANKS ANONYMOUS, I'M WITH YOU! DOWSING IS STUPID!
Whoever is a christian or have religious beliefs and are dowsing, you need to be aware of your punishment!
Mag
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Re: RE: Dowsing
September 25 2005, 11:10 AM
NONE, what kind of christian are you? I think that must be a pretty terrible religion where you can't dowse? And what happens if you do do it?
If you have beliefs like that maybe you should let other people believe in dowsing and not call it stupid, so far what you say doesn't sound very reasonable to me either.
Christina
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Re: RE: Dowsing
September 25 2005, 2:53 PM
In reply to Mag & NONE:
I personally don't believe in dowsing and do not do it. However, Im not knocking anyone who does. So I agree with Mag. No REAL Christian is going to be criticizing something like dowsing in the manner you were. Calling it stupid, not a Christian thing to do at all. Threatening that they need to be aware of their punishment. Whatever. I don't think God is going to be punishing someone for dowsing. They are not hurting anyone, not doing anything wrong.
The Christian way would be to guide them to Jesus, etc. etc. Not criticize, judge, or threaten.
Another thing, I believe that NONE is the same one who posted in the "cleavage creame and flat to fab" because someone actually typed NONE in that post as well. Anyone else who doesn't write anything shows up Anonymous. And nobody else has written NONE. In their post they put wrote
"NONE
Bf sucking! Nice! September 25 2005, 3:54 AM
"i read on a different forum were a woman was describing letting her bf suck on her breasts daily and she ended up growing about 1/2 a cup in 6 or so weeks"
That sound nice, I will have my own human breast pump for free! The only think is that if that was true, my boyfriend's dick should be about a yard longer by now!"
So you can see they both have NONE as their name. And look how close the times they were posted are. 3:54AM & 3:46AM on the same date. This was the same person. And what Christian is going to #1 be giving oral sex on her boyfriend. and #2 be calling it a dick.
So no REAL Christian wrote that post.
Tania
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Re: dowsing
October 16 2005, 11:41 AM
If you believe in dowsing you can get rich, because the writer and psychic investigator James Randi has offered a prize of one million dollars to anyone who can prove that dowsing actually works. (The prize has been on offer since 1964 but to this day it remains unclaimed).
SugarQ
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Re: dowsing
October 16 2005, 4:02 PM
Jennelle,
i dont know what you are talking about. i did my own research about dowsing and i have come up with my own reseasoning about it. a few members of the forum have used it and felt like they had results and so i gave it a try. i am not a total believer in the idea of dowsing and i know there is no prove (actually if found some studies that proved that it doesnt work).my opinion is that dowsing may help give BEers needed positive feedback to keep their hopes up when they try a routine it my have a mental (psychological impact on their progress). if the mind thinks it works then the body may respond. it didnt cost me anything to give it a try anyways.its like playing with th oija board or tarro cards... the idea of them actually working if fun to imagine but as you play with it you dont expect much of anything.
i believe in god, spirits,aliens etc even though there is very little or no proof they exist and that is my right. its all about faith and there are just things that cant be explained. as for NBE, i believe that herbs my work. i dont know which ones work but they may. i dont pick and choose i believe in. someone asked to know about dowsing and i gave them a source to look into. dowsing didnt worked for me by the way but its still worth a try. NBE in general is still worth a try even though there is lil prove that it actually works.
I dont know if my believs about NBE offends you or anyone but i still offer my opinion in hopes it could help someone. I have right to voice my opinion and if anyone want to debate or dispute some of my ideas they are welcome to in posts that i start in. i believe in NBE enough to give dowsing and hypnosis a try. and im working on a routine that doesnt require herbs which im confindent that theoretically would work. i may sound like a broken record sometimes but its not like you have to read what i type.
Anonymous
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Re: dowsing
October 16 2005, 7:39 PM
If you think about it, dowsing is probably just as real as herbs working for breast growth. Just like someone said if dowsing was real wouldn't doctors use it more? well if taking herbs for breast growth is real then wouldn't plastic surgeons be out of business? people prefer natural boobs to fake ones so i'm sure if nbe really worked people would pay the same amount for the pills as they would for surgery. There are some instances were nbe works just as well as there are some instances where dowsing works. Its not that thoese are proven true some people are just lucky enough to have results.
Anonymous
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Re: dowsing
October 16 2005, 7:53 PM
I think the reason why some people have a negative opinion about dowsing is the way that it is handled on beboard. I know that beboard supporters are going to jump all over me but I really don't care. I have read posts where people like wen basically said if you don't dowse then its your fault that you didn't grow. Whenever someone is having growth problems on beboard they are usually referred to dowsing. I have asked several people their opinions about my routine and dosages and beboarders said well is pointless to do trial and error you should dowse. To me that is the equivalent of saying 'I don't know anything about herbs and how they affect the body so just do something else to take the focus off of my ignorance.' For people who believe in dowsing, I challenge you to use dowsing to predict winning lottery numbers. If you win with dowsing then I will believe in it. If it can pin down something as random as herbs then it should def. be able to predict the order of numbers for the lottery. That is a simple task but no one has done it that I know of.
Wenonae
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Not jumping all over you, but...
October 16 2005, 11:51 PM
You can't use dowsing to predict lottery numbers. I've only ever said that without dowsing- it's harder than hell's bells to figure out what you need. It's not that it can't be done, but if you don't respond to the to the typical fengureek, wild yam, saw palmetto, maybe Red clover, EPO stuff, you'll be hard pressed to figure out something that works. I can speak because I've been there done that (used BO + SP + oregano (cutting edge..lol) + other stuff for a year. Anyways, it's really ok NOT to believe in dowsing...if it works for some, then yeah for them.
I could be interested in a reasonable dowsing BE challange- but really for all the skeptics, they'll just mark it up to being dumb luck which has brought about the success.
Wen'
Anonymous
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Re: Not jumping all over you, but...
October 17 2005, 2:38 AM
why not? if dowsing was real then you could use it to predict lottery numbers. perhaps you can't use it for the lottery because dowsing doesn't work!!!!!
SugarQ
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Re: Not jumping all over you, but...
October 17 2005, 5:18 AM
Anon that posted before me
why dont you try it out and see if you can win the lottery. Hey,maybe you will get lucky!!!
some people use numbers they get from a dream. others consult the stars while some just pick numbers at random.
why dont you people do your homework and reasearch what dowsing is (there are different theorys about how it works) but its been around for thousands of years. Please dont disrepect it cause its been important to certain people who have passed it on for so many generations. Just like some people feel that they must attend church every weekend and they feel that its good for them. dowsing is important to a few women. I may not be a believer but i dont knock anything until i give it a try for myself . All you ladies that think negatively about dowsing should give it a good try and do your homework before you call (an antient art)"stupid". maybe for one of you it may actually give you results. i know it helps to have proof and be able to explain away anything that happens(like NBE and herbs)but some things doent have an explanation. Quite a number of women feel that dowsing brought them results; call it luck of the draw but it seems to help some.
Danielle C
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Re: Not jumping all over you, but...
October 17 2005, 6:00 AM
No one is disrespecting dowsing I think they are questioning its validity. Those are two different things. People question the validity of other forms of NBE such as specific brands of pills. Its just the way things go. Don't get bent out of shape because some people don't agree or believe in dowsing.
HonBE
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Re: Not jumping all over you, but...
October 17 2005, 6:05 AM
its one thing to disagree or disbelieve but its another thing to call dowsing stupid. i find that disrepectful.and im not bend out of shape abou it. i just dont totally agree with what some ladies are saying thats all. I thought that this site was better at being open to debating? hmmmm...
Jamie
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Re: Not jumping all over you, but...
October 17 2005, 4:40 PM
SugarQ you didn't invent dowsing so why are you taking offense when people say dowsing is stupid? This isn't a presidential debate so people can call dowsing stupid if they want to. No one is saying that SugarQ is stupid, they just think the practice is stupid. Chill.
SugarQ
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Re: Not jumping all over you, but...
October 17 2005, 5:52 PM
i dont feel that my position is right or wrong but its just another view. fankly i dont care for dowsing or of the arguments going either way just like most of you dont care for it. You all have stated your positions and it seems slightly one sided so im just picking at a few things i read in your posts and showing a different side just to even out the views a little.im not upset or offended or overly negative and for those who choose to respond to my posts shouldnt and use those kind of insinuations for your responses because you i havnt given you any direct reasoning for anyone to believe that. If you disagree with something i type then point it out and give your opinion or disprove my opinion. If your opinion in that im upset or overly negative then proove that too. Or you dont really have to respond to me anything i say at all and just give your straight up opinion.
If you dont believe in god or islam you dont dis the it or do you call the people that believe in it stupid. Dowsing is slighty different then religion but the main part of it is faith. if you dont blieve then you wont benifit. It cant be explained all though most of you ladies want to pass it off as just a waste of time or there is no proof or that science has disproove it already. No one has just disproved dowsing just yet. There are some demonstrations that "suggest" that its doesnt work. Just because no one has collected the million dollars yet dosent mean that there is no one out there who can.I know that that view seems silly and its easier to come to the conclusion that dowsing doesnt work from the two previouse examples i gave but the realitly its enough reasoning to some who do dowse to continue. Most of the ladies who dont believe in it have never given dowsing a try for themselves. If you all dont believe in it or you dont want to try it or you dont want to reasearch into it well that fine but you should put something down because you dont understand it.
My position is its been used for thousands of years and people today believe in it enough to use it everyday of their lives. Maybe dowsing is one of those things that is not ment to be prooved or disprooved. back when dowsing was invented it would have been the equivilant to todays metal detectors. now its just used to justify a faith and you dont need proof for faith. in all my posts on this topic that is all im really trying to say.
SugarQ
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Re: Not jumping all over you, but...
October 17 2005, 9:00 PM
OMG i hope one is saying SugarQ is stupid Jamie. lol cause im not (its ok it disagree with me but please post on the forum that i am stupid cause that would be uncalled for). if you think dowsing is stupid then fine. i really dont care. i just wanted all you known believers to look at it in another way before you judge. Thanks all. and before anyone point it out to me... i know i double posted lol. i just read over some previouse posts and thought of something to add. sorry in advance
lil dunny
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Re: dowsing
March 6 2007, 10:56 PM
thought i would unearth this thread
TB
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Dowsing
March 7 2007, 7:23 AM
I think this forum needs to get a little more grounded. Dowsing is ridiculous. At first I thought someone spelled douching wrong. You guys are getting too politically correct. It is not ridiculing to tell someone they are wrong. The historical definition of witchcraft is manipulation. Dowsing clearly falls into that category. Why not just use your husbands penis to point to breast it prefers, at least you know it is organic and sometimes connected to you.
gingerD
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Re: dowsing
March 7 2007, 12:28 PM
T-Based upon your idea that people who dowse are rediculous and wrong, i wonder if you could provide info as to why they are wrong-generally when some one discredits a certain practise etc they back up their statements with facts they have found out.
dowswing
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seriously
March 7 2007, 1:13 PM
Are you being serious? You actually expect a list of reasons of why dowsing is foolish. How about this. If you throw someone into water and they float they are guilty of crime or sin, because if they sink, that would prove that the water which is Holy accepted them there fore they could not be a sinner. We could do the same thing for NBE. If you throw a women into water and she floats her breasts are big enough, because after all, they float don't they, but of course she is now a sinner and should be flogged. The small breasted women would sink because her breasts would not keep her afloat, however we would prove she is virtuous. By this reasoning it would follow all big breasted women are sinners and small breasted women are virtuous. I would further add the the lust generated by big breasts further proves my point that big breasted women are evil. They should be stripped, bent over and spanked in the public square and bas-reliefs should be distributed depicting the event so as to prevent anyone from forgetting, lest they stray.
Buffeee
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Re: dowsing
March 7 2007, 1:46 PM
If you want evidence on dowsing (at least for BE,) go check out the alternative methods section on the BE Board and read the countless messages of confusion and disappointment. Of course, proponents would say that they aren't "doing it right" or something like that.
What I see is that it doesn't work for the vast majority of people. I don't believe in magical or spiritual things, therefore I look at dowsing from a different angle than most people who try it. How I think it works is this: your subconscious is running the show. It makes you move the pendulum. Therefore, if you are asking about things that your body or mind has no experience with, you won't be able to give yourself an educated response. Your subconscious might know a little better than the conscious mind what works or doesn't work for you, maybe even how your hormones are balanced. I think the vast failure of dowsing across the board is related to people not trusting their intuition. And I think that the failure is compounded by people not having real knowledge or experience to use to figure things out.
Of course, I could be wrong. Perhaps the Boob Fairy only sprinkles her magic dust on the chosen ones. I think I saw some sparkles on my chest this morning.
Moon
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Re: dowsing
March 7 2007, 8:09 PM
I'd say that dowsing is rubbish.
Anonymous
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Re: dowsing
March 7 2007, 8:16 PM
Personally, I don't believe in dowsing. Three people have dowsed for me and everything they told me turned out to be incorrect, with one suggestion being potentially dangerous to my health. One person is a naturopath and yet she let dowsing guide her recommendations instead of experience. I later had medical tests done and some of the stuff was wildly off the mark.
I dowsed for myself to see what it was all about and got a 'yes' to virtually every question. I would never feel safe or confident following those answers because I don't trust that they were coming from any sort of deeper power or vision. I do trust my gut instincts, which is why I haven't tried PM, but to be able to harness that in the form of dowsing does not make any sense to me.
To each their own, though. I wish everyone success no matter what method they choose.
September 15 2005 at 9:12 AM wtf (no login)
What is dowsing? I hear it all the time, and it apparantly works, but i have no idea what it is!!
Anonymous
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Re: dowsing
September 15 2005, 11:15 AM
Dowsing is when you use a pendulum or dvining rod to tell you e.g. how much herbs your body needs. The dowser basically swings in different directions for yes and no, and you can ask questions. People use it for all different kinds of things, one popular one is the detection of electromagnetic fields in homes. You can google it and will find lots of more specific information if you are interested in knowing more.
SugarQ
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Re: dowsing
September 15 2005, 3:12 PM
lots of women had success with dowsing and NBE. look up Wenonae in particular. she will give you all the info you need.
Lucie
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Re: dowsing
September 15 2005, 8:49 PM
Dowsing is a form of whichcraft which explores the realm where human consciousness meets and dialogues with the Spirit of the Earth. It empowers the harmonious interaction between person and answer and enables the person to seek out the required answer with the aid of a hand held instrument. Dowsers are empowered to locate and shape these answers in harmony with both the physical and the spiritual environment of the Earth, demonstrating that the intellect has little to do on the road to discovery and that the essence of true discovery is a leap of the consciousness.
Anonymous
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Re: dowsing
September 16 2005, 1:56 AM
In my opinion dowsing is really stupid. There have been quite a few people who say that it has told them to do the wrong thing. If you believe something, you can make yourself believe it is working, you make yourself see what you want to see. If it doesnt work, they make up an excuse on why it told them to do the wrong thing, whatever.
No offense to anyone who is dowsing or believes in it, my opinion is that it is stupid and fake and if you use them, you will see what you want to see.
Jennelle
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Re: dowsing
September 16 2005, 10:42 AM
Dowsing is a manifestation of the paranormal. The people who believe it works are people who believe in the paranormal world, but it goes without saying that nothing in the paranormal world has ever been proven, and so there is no basis for saying that it apparently works as you did above. But if you are a true believer you will doubtless argue that proof is not necessary. Even SugarQ who often moans here about the lack of evidence for herbal breast enhancement, lack of before and after pictures etc etc, even she has overlooked the fact that the idea of dowsing is not supported by any evidence whatsoever. It's funny how the things she chooses to believe in aren't required to have any evidence to support them, when she chooses to criticise other things for exactly that reason.
Hazina
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Re: dowsing
September 16 2005, 7:35 PM
Dowsing is not stupid or fake. It is an ancient skill traditionally used for healing, and witchdoctors and complementary therapists still use it widely today to diagnose ills and to help them cast spells for a patient.
ChristinaJBK
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Re: dowsing
September 17 2005, 10:14 PM
Im not knocking anyone who is dowsing or believes in it. Myself, I think it is completely nonsense. If dowsing did in fact work, every hospital and Drs office would use them because that would be the cheapest way for them to know what was wrong with you, therefore the profit margin would increase for the Drs and hospitals.
And I believe that nobody would have any diseases anymore either. Dowsing would discover the disease and let you know how to heal it.
If you notice which countries still practice witchcraft and dowsing as healing are the poorest countries. They have no alternative methods. That is all they know and all they can afford.
You are not looking at the big picture. You are seeing only the times that dowsing supposedly works(just a coincidense), not the majority of time when it actually doesnt. What is the mortality rate in those poor countries who use dowsing and witchcraft as their medicine? Pretty darn high isnt it?
Anonymous
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Re: dowsing
September 17 2005, 11:06 PM
That the mortality rate in those countries is so high might have something to do with them not having enough clean water, enough food and the adequate medical provisions on hand, and many of those countries are dealing with high numbers of people who are infected with HIV. I don't think the reason that they all die early is due to them using witchcraft and dowsing, to suggest this shows a very narrow view of the world.
Also in western, rich countries thousands of people die every year because of unnecessary/wrong surgeries and drug treatments.
I don't say that dowsing is great and can heal every disease but I don't think that this is what people who use dowsing say. Dowsing for example is used to detect and eliminate negative energy fields in your body in order for your body to be able to heal, whether this is true or not is hard to determine scientifically, which might be one of the many reasons why doctors in westernised countries don't use this method, which does not mean it doesn't or hasn't worked to help some people.
Also I have never seen any where that someone claims dowsing can and will heal any and every disease. There are some diseases people will die from whether they use western traditional medicine or witchcraft.
To condemn something only because it hasn't been proven or isn't practised that much in the western world is being ignorant and to pretend as if western medicine is the best there is is just naive.
You yourself are using alternative medicine to increase your breast size and I haven't seen any doctor recommending these herbs to you either when you go and ask what you can take to get bigger boobs.
I am not dowsing myself or trying to say that dowsing works, I don't think that it is very constructive to condemn something only because you don't understand or agree with it.
The person who started this discussion only asked what dowsing was, which I think has been answered. Any comments regarding the effectiveness of this technique or the uselessness of it I can't see as being relevant in any way.
Amber
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Re: dowsing
September 18 2005, 4:30 AM
To the anonymous person who posted the last thing on here. This is a forum where anyone can give their opinion about anything. From what I was reading on here it does not seem like anyone was criticizing dowsing. To me they were just giving their belief on the matter. I have not dowsed and do not plan on doing it but it is nice to hear everyones opinion on the matter being it negative or positive.
Heather
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Re: dowsing
September 18 2005, 10:39 AM
As a newcomer here I am surprised to be reading about dowsing and the casting of spells, but as far as I am concerned all information is valuable and all contributions welcome. But the thing that surprised me the most was the anonymour person just above who said "Any comments regarding the effectiveness of this technique or the uselessness of it I can't see as being relevant in any way". Well I agree with Amber that the whole point of having a forum must be to share information and opinions on something whether negative or positive. If we can't discuss the effectiveness or uselessness of something I can't see what the point would be in having a forum at all.
NONE
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RE: Dowsing
September 25 2005, 3:46 AM
THANKS ANONYMOUS, I'M WITH YOU! DOWSING IS STUPID!
Whoever is a christian or have religious beliefs and are dowsing, you need to be aware of your punishment!
Mag
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Re: RE: Dowsing
September 25 2005, 11:10 AM
NONE, what kind of christian are you? I think that must be a pretty terrible religion where you can't dowse? And what happens if you do do it?
If you have beliefs like that maybe you should let other people believe in dowsing and not call it stupid, so far what you say doesn't sound very reasonable to me either.
Christina
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Re: RE: Dowsing
September 25 2005, 2:53 PM
In reply to Mag & NONE:
I personally don't believe in dowsing and do not do it. However, Im not knocking anyone who does. So I agree with Mag. No REAL Christian is going to be criticizing something like dowsing in the manner you were. Calling it stupid, not a Christian thing to do at all. Threatening that they need to be aware of their punishment. Whatever. I don't think God is going to be punishing someone for dowsing. They are not hurting anyone, not doing anything wrong.
The Christian way would be to guide them to Jesus, etc. etc. Not criticize, judge, or threaten.
Another thing, I believe that NONE is the same one who posted in the "cleavage creame and flat to fab" because someone actually typed NONE in that post as well. Anyone else who doesn't write anything shows up Anonymous. And nobody else has written NONE. In their post they put wrote
"NONE
Bf sucking! Nice! September 25 2005, 3:54 AM
"i read on a different forum were a woman was describing letting her bf suck on her breasts daily and she ended up growing about 1/2 a cup in 6 or so weeks"
That sound nice, I will have my own human breast pump for free! The only think is that if that was true, my boyfriend's dick should be about a yard longer by now!"
So you can see they both have NONE as their name. And look how close the times they were posted are. 3:54AM & 3:46AM on the same date. This was the same person. And what Christian is going to #1 be giving oral sex on her boyfriend. and #2 be calling it a dick.
So no REAL Christian wrote that post.
Tania
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Re: dowsing
October 16 2005, 11:41 AM
If you believe in dowsing you can get rich, because the writer and psychic investigator James Randi has offered a prize of one million dollars to anyone who can prove that dowsing actually works. (The prize has been on offer since 1964 but to this day it remains unclaimed).
SugarQ
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Re: dowsing
October 16 2005, 4:02 PM
Jennelle,
i dont know what you are talking about. i did my own research about dowsing and i have come up with my own reseasoning about it. a few members of the forum have used it and felt like they had results and so i gave it a try. i am not a total believer in the idea of dowsing and i know there is no prove (actually if found some studies that proved that it doesnt work).my opinion is that dowsing may help give BEers needed positive feedback to keep their hopes up when they try a routine it my have a mental (psychological impact on their progress). if the mind thinks it works then the body may respond. it didnt cost me anything to give it a try anyways.its like playing with th oija board or tarro cards... the idea of them actually working if fun to imagine but as you play with it you dont expect much of anything.
i believe in god, spirits,aliens etc even though there is very little or no proof they exist and that is my right. its all about faith and there are just things that cant be explained. as for NBE, i believe that herbs my work. i dont know which ones work but they may. i dont pick and choose i believe in. someone asked to know about dowsing and i gave them a source to look into. dowsing didnt worked for me by the way but its still worth a try. NBE in general is still worth a try even though there is lil prove that it actually works.
I dont know if my believs about NBE offends you or anyone but i still offer my opinion in hopes it could help someone. I have right to voice my opinion and if anyone want to debate or dispute some of my ideas they are welcome to in posts that i start in. i believe in NBE enough to give dowsing and hypnosis a try. and im working on a routine that doesnt require herbs which im confindent that theoretically would work. i may sound like a broken record sometimes but its not like you have to read what i type.
Anonymous
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Re: dowsing
October 16 2005, 7:39 PM
If you think about it, dowsing is probably just as real as herbs working for breast growth. Just like someone said if dowsing was real wouldn't doctors use it more? well if taking herbs for breast growth is real then wouldn't plastic surgeons be out of business? people prefer natural boobs to fake ones so i'm sure if nbe really worked people would pay the same amount for the pills as they would for surgery. There are some instances were nbe works just as well as there are some instances where dowsing works. Its not that thoese are proven true some people are just lucky enough to have results.
Anonymous
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Re: dowsing
October 16 2005, 7:53 PM
I think the reason why some people have a negative opinion about dowsing is the way that it is handled on beboard. I know that beboard supporters are going to jump all over me but I really don't care. I have read posts where people like wen basically said if you don't dowse then its your fault that you didn't grow. Whenever someone is having growth problems on beboard they are usually referred to dowsing. I have asked several people their opinions about my routine and dosages and beboarders said well is pointless to do trial and error you should dowse. To me that is the equivalent of saying 'I don't know anything about herbs and how they affect the body so just do something else to take the focus off of my ignorance.' For people who believe in dowsing, I challenge you to use dowsing to predict winning lottery numbers. If you win with dowsing then I will believe in it. If it can pin down something as random as herbs then it should def. be able to predict the order of numbers for the lottery. That is a simple task but no one has done it that I know of.
Wenonae
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Not jumping all over you, but...
October 16 2005, 11:51 PM
You can't use dowsing to predict lottery numbers. I've only ever said that without dowsing- it's harder than hell's bells to figure out what you need. It's not that it can't be done, but if you don't respond to the to the typical fengureek, wild yam, saw palmetto, maybe Red clover, EPO stuff, you'll be hard pressed to figure out something that works. I can speak because I've been there done that (used BO + SP + oregano (cutting edge..lol) + other stuff for a year. Anyways, it's really ok NOT to believe in dowsing...if it works for some, then yeah for them.
I could be interested in a reasonable dowsing BE challange- but really for all the skeptics, they'll just mark it up to being dumb luck which has brought about the success.
Wen'
Anonymous
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Re: Not jumping all over you, but...
October 17 2005, 2:38 AM
why not? if dowsing was real then you could use it to predict lottery numbers. perhaps you can't use it for the lottery because dowsing doesn't work!!!!!
SugarQ
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Re: Not jumping all over you, but...
October 17 2005, 5:18 AM
Anon that posted before me
why dont you try it out and see if you can win the lottery. Hey,maybe you will get lucky!!!
some people use numbers they get from a dream. others consult the stars while some just pick numbers at random.
why dont you people do your homework and reasearch what dowsing is (there are different theorys about how it works) but its been around for thousands of years. Please dont disrepect it cause its been important to certain people who have passed it on for so many generations. Just like some people feel that they must attend church every weekend and they feel that its good for them. dowsing is important to a few women. I may not be a believer but i dont knock anything until i give it a try for myself . All you ladies that think negatively about dowsing should give it a good try and do your homework before you call (an antient art)"stupid". maybe for one of you it may actually give you results. i know it helps to have proof and be able to explain away anything that happens(like NBE and herbs)but some things doent have an explanation. Quite a number of women feel that dowsing brought them results; call it luck of the draw but it seems to help some.
Danielle C
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Re: Not jumping all over you, but...
October 17 2005, 6:00 AM
No one is disrespecting dowsing I think they are questioning its validity. Those are two different things. People question the validity of other forms of NBE such as specific brands of pills. Its just the way things go. Don't get bent out of shape because some people don't agree or believe in dowsing.
HonBE
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Re: Not jumping all over you, but...
October 17 2005, 6:05 AM
its one thing to disagree or disbelieve but its another thing to call dowsing stupid. i find that disrepectful.and im not bend out of shape abou it. i just dont totally agree with what some ladies are saying thats all. I thought that this site was better at being open to debating? hmmmm...
Jamie
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Re: Not jumping all over you, but...
October 17 2005, 4:40 PM
SugarQ you didn't invent dowsing so why are you taking offense when people say dowsing is stupid? This isn't a presidential debate so people can call dowsing stupid if they want to. No one is saying that SugarQ is stupid, they just think the practice is stupid. Chill.
SugarQ
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Re: Not jumping all over you, but...
October 17 2005, 5:52 PM
i dont feel that my position is right or wrong but its just another view. fankly i dont care for dowsing or of the arguments going either way just like most of you dont care for it. You all have stated your positions and it seems slightly one sided so im just picking at a few things i read in your posts and showing a different side just to even out the views a little.im not upset or offended or overly negative and for those who choose to respond to my posts shouldnt and use those kind of insinuations for your responses because you i havnt given you any direct reasoning for anyone to believe that. If you disagree with something i type then point it out and give your opinion or disprove my opinion. If your opinion in that im upset or overly negative then proove that too. Or you dont really have to respond to me anything i say at all and just give your straight up opinion.
If you dont believe in god or islam you dont dis the it or do you call the people that believe in it stupid. Dowsing is slighty different then religion but the main part of it is faith. if you dont blieve then you wont benifit. It cant be explained all though most of you ladies want to pass it off as just a waste of time or there is no proof or that science has disproove it already. No one has just disproved dowsing just yet. There are some demonstrations that "suggest" that its doesnt work. Just because no one has collected the million dollars yet dosent mean that there is no one out there who can.I know that that view seems silly and its easier to come to the conclusion that dowsing doesnt work from the two previouse examples i gave but the realitly its enough reasoning to some who do dowse to continue. Most of the ladies who dont believe in it have never given dowsing a try for themselves. If you all dont believe in it or you dont want to try it or you dont want to reasearch into it well that fine but you should put something down because you dont understand it.
My position is its been used for thousands of years and people today believe in it enough to use it everyday of their lives. Maybe dowsing is one of those things that is not ment to be prooved or disprooved. back when dowsing was invented it would have been the equivilant to todays metal detectors. now its just used to justify a faith and you dont need proof for faith. in all my posts on this topic that is all im really trying to say.
SugarQ
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Re: Not jumping all over you, but...
October 17 2005, 9:00 PM
OMG i hope one is saying SugarQ is stupid Jamie. lol cause im not (its ok it disagree with me but please post on the forum that i am stupid cause that would be uncalled for). if you think dowsing is stupid then fine. i really dont care. i just wanted all you known believers to look at it in another way before you judge. Thanks all. and before anyone point it out to me... i know i double posted lol. i just read over some previouse posts and thought of something to add. sorry in advance
lil dunny
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Re: dowsing
March 6 2007, 10:56 PM
thought i would unearth this thread
TB
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Dowsing
March 7 2007, 7:23 AM
I think this forum needs to get a little more grounded. Dowsing is ridiculous. At first I thought someone spelled douching wrong. You guys are getting too politically correct. It is not ridiculing to tell someone they are wrong. The historical definition of witchcraft is manipulation. Dowsing clearly falls into that category. Why not just use your husbands penis to point to breast it prefers, at least you know it is organic and sometimes connected to you.
gingerD
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Re: dowsing
March 7 2007, 12:28 PM
T-Based upon your idea that people who dowse are rediculous and wrong, i wonder if you could provide info as to why they are wrong-generally when some one discredits a certain practise etc they back up their statements with facts they have found out.
dowswing
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seriously
March 7 2007, 1:13 PM
Are you being serious? You actually expect a list of reasons of why dowsing is foolish. How about this. If you throw someone into water and they float they are guilty of crime or sin, because if they sink, that would prove that the water which is Holy accepted them there fore they could not be a sinner. We could do the same thing for NBE. If you throw a women into water and she floats her breasts are big enough, because after all, they float don't they, but of course she is now a sinner and should be flogged. The small breasted women would sink because her breasts would not keep her afloat, however we would prove she is virtuous. By this reasoning it would follow all big breasted women are sinners and small breasted women are virtuous. I would further add the the lust generated by big breasts further proves my point that big breasted women are evil. They should be stripped, bent over and spanked in the public square and bas-reliefs should be distributed depicting the event so as to prevent anyone from forgetting, lest they stray.
Buffeee
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Re: dowsing
March 7 2007, 1:46 PM
If you want evidence on dowsing (at least for BE,) go check out the alternative methods section on the BE Board and read the countless messages of confusion and disappointment. Of course, proponents would say that they aren't "doing it right" or something like that.
What I see is that it doesn't work for the vast majority of people. I don't believe in magical or spiritual things, therefore I look at dowsing from a different angle than most people who try it. How I think it works is this: your subconscious is running the show. It makes you move the pendulum. Therefore, if you are asking about things that your body or mind has no experience with, you won't be able to give yourself an educated response. Your subconscious might know a little better than the conscious mind what works or doesn't work for you, maybe even how your hormones are balanced. I think the vast failure of dowsing across the board is related to people not trusting their intuition. And I think that the failure is compounded by people not having real knowledge or experience to use to figure things out.
Of course, I could be wrong. Perhaps the Boob Fairy only sprinkles her magic dust on the chosen ones. I think I saw some sparkles on my chest this morning.
Moon
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Re: dowsing
March 7 2007, 8:09 PM
I'd say that dowsing is rubbish.
Anonymous
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Re: dowsing
March 7 2007, 8:16 PM
Personally, I don't believe in dowsing. Three people have dowsed for me and everything they told me turned out to be incorrect, with one suggestion being potentially dangerous to my health. One person is a naturopath and yet she let dowsing guide her recommendations instead of experience. I later had medical tests done and some of the stuff was wildly off the mark.
I dowsed for myself to see what it was all about and got a 'yes' to virtually every question. I would never feel safe or confident following those answers because I don't trust that they were coming from any sort of deeper power or vision. I do trust my gut instincts, which is why I haven't tried PM, but to be able to harness that in the form of dowsing does not make any sense to me.
To each their own, though. I wish everyone success no matter what method they choose.