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dowsing
December 18 2005 at 1:16 PM puppy (no login)
Can anyone explain me what is dowsing and how I should get started?Is it like hypnosis?should I concentrate?
Jennelle
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Re: dowsing
December 18 2005, 3:18 PM
Dowsing is a manifestation of the paranormal. The people who believe it works are people who believe in the paranormal world, but it goes without saying that nothing in the paranormal world has ever been proven. That's why it's called paranormal, because it's beyond any normal experience.
SugarQ
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Re: dowsing
December 18 2005, 4:58 PM
puppy there is another thread you can see that deal with dowsing. you can do a search for it on this forum. this discussion is a sore subject on this forum becuase most dont believe in it on this forum.
some people believe that dowsing is a paranormal phenominal. while other believe that its the subconciouse mind coming forward to tell you what the body is experience. while others just ranks it with the novelty of tarro cards and oija board. IF you believe in hypnosis then you can compare dowsing to it. i look at it as if your mind believes in something enough it will cause changes in your body. so the key to dowsing is believing it works whole hardedly. the ladies who Claim growth while dowsing believe like crazy that it works. those that it doest work for dont really believe in it so it doesnt work. you wont find someone that has used dowsing and it didnt work for them blieving that it can works.
dowsing is worth a try depending on how you believe it works. if you think it works on some paranomal basis and you blieve in that then its right up your ally. if you believe in the subconcouse mind coming through then its right up your ally. if you dont believe in any of those things then dont waste your time. hypnosis works better and there is scientific proof on how hypnosis works. but if you want more info on dowsing this forum wont give it too you. i dont think too many members on this forum dowse or even believe in it so their beliefs are one sided.
SugarQ
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Re: dowsing
December 18 2005, 6:40 PM
ok i think i should share my experience with dowsing since ive never done so and most people that respond have never tried dowsing. plus i try to be it more objective since if you go to the beboard there are enough believers with their own stories on their spectacular experiences which may not be a realistic expectation for those who start off with dowsing for the first time.
i did some research on it when i first heard about the "real heath breast enlargement book" its basis on NBE is using dowsing. so i found some intersting sites that support dowsing and that dismiss it.
after learning about how this "tool" is suppose to work i decided to give it a try. You know that you hold the pendulum (can be a necklase or anything on a string with a balaced weight) between your fingers. you ask a question and the pendulum is suppose to swing. from what others described to me i thought that it would be a big swinging response. but that wasnt what i experienced.
i tried different positions of dowsing. standing up, my elbow stilling on a counter, my elbow tucked close to my body.... the posistion i was trying to find was one where i can get the P. to settle and not move before i ask a question. the position i found best for this was with my elbow tucked close my body and supported by my other hand.
so i asked the question and pendulum swinged slightly so i questioned weither it was a true response or just light unintentional body movement. so i tried closing my eyes . i noticed that my hand was shaking a bit before i asked the question and after i asked the question my had would shake even more and no matter how relaxed or rigid i tired to keep my hand steady my hand would always shake like crazy after i asked the question. i truley felt my p responses were not premeditated or a response i tried to create on purpose.
i did some more research and found that there was research goin on about the oija board and the researcher was trying to prove that the people controlling the board were actrally moving the piece without knowing that they were doing it. and they found that there were movement in the hands that were suttle and not noticable or not intentional by the indiviuals using the board. its the same sorta think that can be applied to the Pendulum dowsing.
there are some people that train their body to have control over this movement. like people who do sports. for instance archry. when the person is holding a bow at a target their hands will shake uncontrollably. but just when they are ready to release the arrow they are able to somehow control their hand movement enough to aim at the target and make an accurate shot.
when you apply the same concept to dowsing. i dont know exactly how it fits. those that do dowsing say that it takes practice so maybe with practice you have better control over this thing. i only did dowsing 3 times and quit cause i felt i wasnt getting anywhere with it and frankly i would care less about it. i was just experimenting with it and i was disappointed in the fact that i could get it to work the way it was described to work. but im very impatient so that could be it also.
if you believe in the subconciouse mind is at work then you can argue that the involuntary responses have somthing to do with it. then you can linking this theory to hypnosis and other phenomina like the icecube and the blisters hypnosis experiment or the stigmata cases.or if you dont believe in any of this stuff then you can argue that the movements is not your great aunt Martha trying to make contact from the other side.
i dont question anyone who claims that they grew on any forum (unless its a spammer tring to con people). so i guess if the ladies that claim they grew with dowsing i have to decide which theory i will use to explain their growth. i believe hypnosis and the whole mind over body thing so i guess i use that to explain how dowsing could have worked for them. but i prefer to just buy a few NBE hypnosis CDs by different hypnotists and use that instead of dowsing.
puppy
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Re: dowsing
December 20 2005, 9:17 PM
Thanks.I don't know if I can do sowsing .I have decided to start a mild routine with 3000mg of EPO and flax seed oil.I am afraid of taking phytoestrogens.I will try for 3 months and see what's going on.Do you think I can see any improvement?
SugarQ
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Re: dowsing
December 21 2005, 1:12 AM
puppy there are 4 ways i belive can cause breasts to grow.
1) hypnosis/visualization
2) HRT/ herbs (phytoestrogens and anti androgen)/ natual hormone supplimentation
3) massage/ pumping ( breastfeeding pump to stimulate prolactin)/ heating pad
4) Brava/ sustained tension/dbra
the more you combine in a routine the better your chances of success but the problem is find what hormones you need, knowing how long and often to massage/pump, figureing how to increase how well you are at responding to suggestions in hypnosis and finding time and the patients to use sustained tension. but to some degree they all can work( for some better then others)
another clue to my routine is that i plan on hopefully combining all for in my routine if i can manage it.
Hazina
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Re: dowsing
December 24 2005, 6:04 PM
Ask a witchdoctor to explain it for you. They are the experts when it comes to dowsing.
December 18 2005 at 1:16 PM puppy (no login)
Can anyone explain me what is dowsing and how I should get started?Is it like hypnosis?should I concentrate?
Jennelle
(no login)
Re: dowsing
December 18 2005, 3:18 PM
Dowsing is a manifestation of the paranormal. The people who believe it works are people who believe in the paranormal world, but it goes without saying that nothing in the paranormal world has ever been proven. That's why it's called paranormal, because it's beyond any normal experience.
SugarQ
(no login)
Re: dowsing
December 18 2005, 4:58 PM
puppy there is another thread you can see that deal with dowsing. you can do a search for it on this forum. this discussion is a sore subject on this forum becuase most dont believe in it on this forum.
some people believe that dowsing is a paranormal phenominal. while other believe that its the subconciouse mind coming forward to tell you what the body is experience. while others just ranks it with the novelty of tarro cards and oija board. IF you believe in hypnosis then you can compare dowsing to it. i look at it as if your mind believes in something enough it will cause changes in your body. so the key to dowsing is believing it works whole hardedly. the ladies who Claim growth while dowsing believe like crazy that it works. those that it doest work for dont really believe in it so it doesnt work. you wont find someone that has used dowsing and it didnt work for them blieving that it can works.
dowsing is worth a try depending on how you believe it works. if you think it works on some paranomal basis and you blieve in that then its right up your ally. if you believe in the subconcouse mind coming through then its right up your ally. if you dont believe in any of those things then dont waste your time. hypnosis works better and there is scientific proof on how hypnosis works. but if you want more info on dowsing this forum wont give it too you. i dont think too many members on this forum dowse or even believe in it so their beliefs are one sided.
SugarQ
(no login)
Re: dowsing
December 18 2005, 6:40 PM
ok i think i should share my experience with dowsing since ive never done so and most people that respond have never tried dowsing. plus i try to be it more objective since if you go to the beboard there are enough believers with their own stories on their spectacular experiences which may not be a realistic expectation for those who start off with dowsing for the first time.
i did some research on it when i first heard about the "real heath breast enlargement book" its basis on NBE is using dowsing. so i found some intersting sites that support dowsing and that dismiss it.
after learning about how this "tool" is suppose to work i decided to give it a try. You know that you hold the pendulum (can be a necklase or anything on a string with a balaced weight) between your fingers. you ask a question and the pendulum is suppose to swing. from what others described to me i thought that it would be a big swinging response. but that wasnt what i experienced.
i tried different positions of dowsing. standing up, my elbow stilling on a counter, my elbow tucked close to my body.... the posistion i was trying to find was one where i can get the P. to settle and not move before i ask a question. the position i found best for this was with my elbow tucked close my body and supported by my other hand.
so i asked the question and pendulum swinged slightly so i questioned weither it was a true response or just light unintentional body movement. so i tried closing my eyes . i noticed that my hand was shaking a bit before i asked the question and after i asked the question my had would shake even more and no matter how relaxed or rigid i tired to keep my hand steady my hand would always shake like crazy after i asked the question. i truley felt my p responses were not premeditated or a response i tried to create on purpose.
i did some more research and found that there was research goin on about the oija board and the researcher was trying to prove that the people controlling the board were actrally moving the piece without knowing that they were doing it. and they found that there were movement in the hands that were suttle and not noticable or not intentional by the indiviuals using the board. its the same sorta think that can be applied to the Pendulum dowsing.
there are some people that train their body to have control over this movement. like people who do sports. for instance archry. when the person is holding a bow at a target their hands will shake uncontrollably. but just when they are ready to release the arrow they are able to somehow control their hand movement enough to aim at the target and make an accurate shot.
when you apply the same concept to dowsing. i dont know exactly how it fits. those that do dowsing say that it takes practice so maybe with practice you have better control over this thing. i only did dowsing 3 times and quit cause i felt i wasnt getting anywhere with it and frankly i would care less about it. i was just experimenting with it and i was disappointed in the fact that i could get it to work the way it was described to work. but im very impatient so that could be it also.
if you believe in the subconciouse mind is at work then you can argue that the involuntary responses have somthing to do with it. then you can linking this theory to hypnosis and other phenomina like the icecube and the blisters hypnosis experiment or the stigmata cases.or if you dont believe in any of this stuff then you can argue that the movements is not your great aunt Martha trying to make contact from the other side.
i dont question anyone who claims that they grew on any forum (unless its a spammer tring to con people). so i guess if the ladies that claim they grew with dowsing i have to decide which theory i will use to explain their growth. i believe hypnosis and the whole mind over body thing so i guess i use that to explain how dowsing could have worked for them. but i prefer to just buy a few NBE hypnosis CDs by different hypnotists and use that instead of dowsing.
puppy
(no login)
Re: dowsing
December 20 2005, 9:17 PM
Thanks.I don't know if I can do sowsing .I have decided to start a mild routine with 3000mg of EPO and flax seed oil.I am afraid of taking phytoestrogens.I will try for 3 months and see what's going on.Do you think I can see any improvement?
SugarQ
(no login)
Re: dowsing
December 21 2005, 1:12 AM
puppy there are 4 ways i belive can cause breasts to grow.
1) hypnosis/visualization
2) HRT/ herbs (phytoestrogens and anti androgen)/ natual hormone supplimentation
3) massage/ pumping ( breastfeeding pump to stimulate prolactin)/ heating pad
4) Brava/ sustained tension/dbra
the more you combine in a routine the better your chances of success but the problem is find what hormones you need, knowing how long and often to massage/pump, figureing how to increase how well you are at responding to suggestions in hypnosis and finding time and the patients to use sustained tension. but to some degree they all can work( for some better then others)
another clue to my routine is that i plan on hopefully combining all for in my routine if i can manage it.
Hazina
(no login)
Re: dowsing
December 24 2005, 6:04 PM
Ask a witchdoctor to explain it for you. They are the experts when it comes to dowsing.