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Fennel and red clover interaction
January 18 2008 at 5:41 PM Black Sheep (no login)
Hello,
I would like to add red clover to my routine and i'm kind of scared of the possible interaction with fennel. I read many girls here use red clover, fenugreek and fennel all together.
My routine: Fennel 750 X 3, Ginkgo Biloba 200 X 2, EPO 2 x 1000, SP 3 X 575 and also Milk Thistle during period each month.
Also I tried fenugreek on low dose and I got bad bad headaches thats why I swichted to fennel instead. I know that fennel is weaker than fenugreek. Should I ramp it up? How much is the max amount of fennel one should take?
Any input would be appreciated. Thank you
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Fennel and red clover interaction
January 18 2008, 6:30 PM
Red clover sounds really good and I'm not sure why more people don't use it, it sounds quite strong though. Chemically it is similar to soy and PM. I don't think you should combine red clover with fenugreek (not sure why, maybe just because both are strong) but not heard anything about combining with fennel. If you're already growing with what you take now then don't change anything but if yuo've given it a few months or you're just thinking of a program then maybe keep the fennel low and add the red clover. Try using the search function in the personal program section to find red clover on other programs, that may help you with doses. If you're thinking of making red clover tea then stop right there! It comes out a scary black witch's brew and smells and tastes disgusting! I've not been brave enough to use it since.
Snowflake
(Login GoldSnowflake)
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Re: Fennel and red clover interaction
January 18 2008, 7:18 PM
Red clover is one of the very best for NBE, however the side effects are why most people can't take it. It can cause headaches, rapid weight gain and worst of all it makes most people spot in between periods, sometimes people start spotting no stop while on RC. As far as interacting with fennel, never read or heard or anything like that. I took RC while taking fennel and never experienced anything unusual. With the RC, I did pack on the pounds fast, and spotted alot and when I did get periods they were very light in colour as Red clover can really thin blood.
You could use it for a week or 10 days every month to give yourself a boost with program and I am sure you would get tingles and swelling, but you would want to keep a tight lid on it because of the side effect of weight gain. As fas as taking RC and fennel together, again no problem.
Snowflake
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Re: Fennel and red clover interaction
January 18 2008, 7:21 PM
Also Red clover can effect blood sugar levels, watch out or that one. Red clover can be taken with fenugreek and alot of programs on the BeBoard have contained both.
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Fennel and red clover interaction
January 18 2008, 7:34 PM
Hi Snowflake,
That's good to know, what stage in the cycle would you advise to take it? Would it affect BCP if it's that strong? I already take blood sugar lowering meds for PCO, does it lower sugar further?
Snowflake
(Login GoldSnowflake)
EVE MEMBERS
Re: Fennel and red clover interaction
January 18 2008, 8:02 PM
Fenugreek and Cinnomin are the top herbs to lower blood sugar. You can also buy cinnommin tablets to control blood sugar. Border line diebetics usually take cinnommin tablets and proper diets can control diebetes. I would not mix blood lowering meds with herbs that do the same. I am not sure about RC really effecting birth control as some girls on here have taken both. I didn't take BP so I can't tell you for sure if or how it would. The 7-9 days before period would be the best to take red clover as your hormones are at their peak then, so Fenugreek or Red clover would be working with you body. But another side effect with herbs and that week before period is a drastic increase of getting the munchies, put a lock on the fridge. Fennel should be taken in a dosage slightly higher than fenugreek as it is weeker. Watch for changes of blood sugar being too low, headaches, dizziness, muscle weakness, fatique as hormones also effect our blood sugars ecspecially the week before period. Hormones play a big role in regulating sugars in our bodies.
Black Sheep
(no login)
Re: Fennel and red clover interaction
January 18 2008, 9:01 PM
Thank you so much both!
I'm going to add RC before period each month, and see how that goes.
Today when I massaged my breasts I noticed something coming out, looks like colostrum and now I'm really worried, because I am not pregnant. Is that normal?
I started NBE in October 07, with FG, SP, EPO but missed a lot of pills. My breasts did get some fulness but not much to show on the measuring tape. Is been a week since I started the new routine and I did use RC for massage only. Could that have triggered the milk? Now I don't know if I should stop the pills or not.
Also, is been less then a year since I stopped breasfeeding, 8 months exactly.
Des
January 18 2008 at 5:41 PM Black Sheep (no login)
Hello,
I would like to add red clover to my routine and i'm kind of scared of the possible interaction with fennel. I read many girls here use red clover, fenugreek and fennel all together.
My routine: Fennel 750 X 3, Ginkgo Biloba 200 X 2, EPO 2 x 1000, SP 3 X 575 and also Milk Thistle during period each month.
Also I tried fenugreek on low dose and I got bad bad headaches thats why I swichted to fennel instead. I know that fennel is weaker than fenugreek. Should I ramp it up? How much is the max amount of fennel one should take?
Any input would be appreciated. Thank you
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Fennel and red clover interaction
January 18 2008, 6:30 PM
Red clover sounds really good and I'm not sure why more people don't use it, it sounds quite strong though. Chemically it is similar to soy and PM. I don't think you should combine red clover with fenugreek (not sure why, maybe just because both are strong) but not heard anything about combining with fennel. If you're already growing with what you take now then don't change anything but if yuo've given it a few months or you're just thinking of a program then maybe keep the fennel low and add the red clover. Try using the search function in the personal program section to find red clover on other programs, that may help you with doses. If you're thinking of making red clover tea then stop right there! It comes out a scary black witch's brew and smells and tastes disgusting! I've not been brave enough to use it since.
Snowflake
(Login GoldSnowflake)
EVE MEMBERS
Re: Fennel and red clover interaction
January 18 2008, 7:18 PM
Red clover is one of the very best for NBE, however the side effects are why most people can't take it. It can cause headaches, rapid weight gain and worst of all it makes most people spot in between periods, sometimes people start spotting no stop while on RC. As far as interacting with fennel, never read or heard or anything like that. I took RC while taking fennel and never experienced anything unusual. With the RC, I did pack on the pounds fast, and spotted alot and when I did get periods they were very light in colour as Red clover can really thin blood.
You could use it for a week or 10 days every month to give yourself a boost with program and I am sure you would get tingles and swelling, but you would want to keep a tight lid on it because of the side effect of weight gain. As fas as taking RC and fennel together, again no problem.
Snowflake
(Login GoldSnowflake)
EVE MEMBERS
Re: Fennel and red clover interaction
January 18 2008, 7:21 PM
Also Red clover can effect blood sugar levels, watch out or that one. Red clover can be taken with fenugreek and alot of programs on the BeBoard have contained both.
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Fennel and red clover interaction
January 18 2008, 7:34 PM
Hi Snowflake,
That's good to know, what stage in the cycle would you advise to take it? Would it affect BCP if it's that strong? I already take blood sugar lowering meds for PCO, does it lower sugar further?
Snowflake
(Login GoldSnowflake)
EVE MEMBERS
Re: Fennel and red clover interaction
January 18 2008, 8:02 PM
Fenugreek and Cinnomin are the top herbs to lower blood sugar. You can also buy cinnommin tablets to control blood sugar. Border line diebetics usually take cinnommin tablets and proper diets can control diebetes. I would not mix blood lowering meds with herbs that do the same. I am not sure about RC really effecting birth control as some girls on here have taken both. I didn't take BP so I can't tell you for sure if or how it would. The 7-9 days before period would be the best to take red clover as your hormones are at their peak then, so Fenugreek or Red clover would be working with you body. But another side effect with herbs and that week before period is a drastic increase of getting the munchies, put a lock on the fridge. Fennel should be taken in a dosage slightly higher than fenugreek as it is weeker. Watch for changes of blood sugar being too low, headaches, dizziness, muscle weakness, fatique as hormones also effect our blood sugars ecspecially the week before period. Hormones play a big role in regulating sugars in our bodies.
Black Sheep
(no login)
Re: Fennel and red clover interaction
January 18 2008, 9:01 PM
Thank you so much both!
I'm going to add RC before period each month, and see how that goes.
Today when I massaged my breasts I noticed something coming out, looks like colostrum and now I'm really worried, because I am not pregnant. Is that normal?
I started NBE in October 07, with FG, SP, EPO but missed a lot of pills. My breasts did get some fulness but not much to show on the measuring tape. Is been a week since I started the new routine and I did use RC for massage only. Could that have triggered the milk? Now I don't know if I should stop the pills or not.
Also, is been less then a year since I stopped breasfeeding, 8 months exactly.
Des