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question on SAW PALMETTO VS. NETTLE ROOT???Pls help
December 21 2006 at 7:06 PM chiquita83 (Login chiquita83)
since im new to all this i cant begin to thank all of you enough for this wonderful forum...its been a major help in figuring out how to begin my own program...only thing is im still a bit confused about the difference between SP and NR....i do know from threads that SP causes an increased appetite leading to weight gain...but what are the effects of NR...do they even have the same effects on NBE??? i know its kind of a more than one answer question but id appreciate any info anyone can give through their own experience. Im still trying to decide which to get....i have just purchased vitex extract,ultra omega(flax/borage/fish oil), and whey protein mix to start off...i think ill start my first week with those but i might add some cayyene-garlic for circulation(thx to recent posts i want to make sure i create the best environment for growth)...so for the next week i will decide what to add week per week...i want to increase herbs gradually as to prevent stalling or a shock to my system since ive never been on herbs...sorry i got a bit off track but any info would be greatly appreciated....oh yah sorry one more thing do you recommend doing a liver cleanse as well and should i do that before taking any herbs or can i do it as im starting off???thx again...best of luck to all and i will definitely keep you all posted on any progress id love to help others out as all of you have helped me! a million thanks happy holidays to all...!
emmie
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cant answer much on herbs
December 21 2006, 7:32 PM
as for the liver cleanse, though, have you taken a lot of perscription meds in your life? if so, a liver cleanse would be a good idea. either way, it cant hurt, though you can do a pretty simple one or just milk thistle or something because you havent been on herbs before. perscription meds mess with your liver too though...
hugs to you! wish i could answer more of your questions, but im not too good at the herbs thing...
chiquita83
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thx emmie
December 21 2006, 9:06 PM
thanks for your input i think i might do a minor liver cleanse i really havent ever taken antibiotics in my life but i am on the ortho-evra BC patch....does that really matter???or count???
i will definitely look into it and see which one might work better for me...thx again!
emmie
(Login emmiedee)
liver and bcp
December 22 2006, 4:28 PM
i would think that the liver cleanse would be good particularly if you have been on birth control for awhile, as that affects your hormones, introduces chemicals to your body, etc etc that could interfere... it might be good then to clean out the ol' liver before starting out.
good luck to you!!
chiquita83
(Login chiquita83)
thx emmie
December 22 2006, 6:12 PM
your probably right....and even if i didnt need it its not like it would hurt to do it anyway so today im going to go buy a kit and most likely start tonight or tomorrow. once im done then i will begin to take my herbs. im so excited not only for having better boobies but also for better health! i have decided im gonna go with SP and see how it goes. ill keep everyone posted on my program...hope i have success like others here.do you take herbs at all???what is your program based on???thanks for all your help!
Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: question on SAW PALMETTO VS. NETTLE ROOT???Pls help
December 22 2006, 7:10 PM
SP doesn't as a rule cause waight gain, only in rare cases. Nettle is used for the same action as SP - anti-androgenic. Some members have reported to have a lot more sucess with nettle. I think that if you try SP and your routine doesn't work, it's sensible to try switching on nettle for a while, and the other way arround. It's not necessary to do a live cleanse before your routine, but after several months on NBE it's very advisable. I actually tend to do a small liver cleanse while on NBE every once in a while.
chiquita83
(Login chiquita83)
thx moon
December 22 2006, 7:29 PM
i think i will try SP first and see how it goes for me...how long do you think i should give it before considering switching to nettle???
TwinkieStar
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Saw Palmetto for men??
December 22 2006, 10:27 PM
I noticed that SP seemed to be a key ingredient for growth, so yesterday I was about to buy some. But then I noticed that the label promoted the fact that it fights prostate cancer. Then on the back, it said it was meant for men. Is it still safe for us women to be taking it?
Moon
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Re: question on SAW PALMETTO VS. NETTLE ROOT???Pls help
December 23 2006, 11:10 AM
@Chiquita - You would probably need to give it at least 3 months, because if the routine won't work, you also won't be able to know for sure which herb wasn't the right one, SP or some other, or if it wasn't even some other factor. If you do lots of trials and change only one herb/factor and notice a difference, then you can attribute the difference to the change accurately, but as you are making los of changes when starting - all the new herbs, you won't be able to know for sure, so it will probably take a few trials. We all do NBE by starting with the most reasonable popular combination and then add some, remove some herbs and see what it does.
@TwinkieStar - SP has been used effectively for prostate problems for a long time, but that doesn't mean it's only for men. I mean look arround, pretty much all women on this board are taking it. NBE is a very unknown thing and it happens repeatedly that a woman doing NBE walks into a specialized store to buy herbs and the sale person stares at her astonished and says SP is only for men and fenugreek is only for women in menopuse.
emmie
(Login emmiedee)
hey chiquita
December 23 2006, 5:58 PM
just saw your questions...
i am on a bo routine, not an herbs routine, though i do take some to help boost my boobies... i take saw palmetto and barley, and borage oil and royal jelly and flax seed oil and vitamin e and am i forgetting any? sigh... im just a pill-popping fiend! my program is on the program page, but it is a bo routine so it isnt too much help for those on herbs...
big hugs, everyone...
TwinkieStar
(no login)
thanks
December 23 2006, 6:06 PM
Thanks Moon for the clarification!
December 21 2006 at 7:06 PM chiquita83 (Login chiquita83)
since im new to all this i cant begin to thank all of you enough for this wonderful forum...its been a major help in figuring out how to begin my own program...only thing is im still a bit confused about the difference between SP and NR....i do know from threads that SP causes an increased appetite leading to weight gain...but what are the effects of NR...do they even have the same effects on NBE??? i know its kind of a more than one answer question but id appreciate any info anyone can give through their own experience. Im still trying to decide which to get....i have just purchased vitex extract,ultra omega(flax/borage/fish oil), and whey protein mix to start off...i think ill start my first week with those but i might add some cayyene-garlic for circulation(thx to recent posts i want to make sure i create the best environment for growth)...so for the next week i will decide what to add week per week...i want to increase herbs gradually as to prevent stalling or a shock to my system since ive never been on herbs...sorry i got a bit off track but any info would be greatly appreciated....oh yah sorry one more thing do you recommend doing a liver cleanse as well and should i do that before taking any herbs or can i do it as im starting off???thx again...best of luck to all and i will definitely keep you all posted on any progress id love to help others out as all of you have helped me! a million thanks
happy holidays to all...!emmie
(Login emmiedee)
cant answer much on herbs
December 21 2006, 7:32 PM
as for the liver cleanse, though, have you taken a lot of perscription meds in your life? if so, a liver cleanse would be a good idea. either way, it cant hurt, though you can do a pretty simple one or just milk thistle or something because you havent been on herbs before. perscription meds mess with your liver too though...
hugs to you! wish i could answer more of your questions, but im not too good at the herbs thing...
chiquita83
(Login chiquita83)
thx emmie
December 21 2006, 9:06 PM
thanks for your input
i think i might do a minor liver cleanse i really havent ever taken antibiotics in my life but i am on the ortho-evra BC patch....does that really matter???or count???i will definitely look into it and see which one might work better for me...thx again!
emmie
(Login emmiedee)
liver and bcp
December 22 2006, 4:28 PM
i would think that the liver cleanse would be good particularly if you have been on birth control for awhile, as that affects your hormones, introduces chemicals to your body, etc etc that could interfere... it might be good then to clean out the ol' liver before starting out.
good luck to you!!
chiquita83
(Login chiquita83)
thx emmie
December 22 2006, 6:12 PM
your probably right....and even if i didnt need it its not like it would hurt to do it anyway
so today im going to go buy a kit and most likely start tonight or tomorrow. once im done then i will begin to take my herbs. im so excited not only for having better boobies but also for better health! i have decided im gonna go with SP and see how it goes. ill keep everyone posted on my program...hope i have success like others here.do you take herbs at all???what is your program based on???thanks for all your help!Moon
(Login -Moon-)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: question on SAW PALMETTO VS. NETTLE ROOT???Pls help
December 22 2006, 7:10 PM
SP doesn't as a rule cause waight gain, only in rare cases. Nettle is used for the same action as SP - anti-androgenic. Some members have reported to have a lot more sucess with nettle. I think that if you try SP and your routine doesn't work, it's sensible to try switching on nettle for a while, and the other way arround. It's not necessary to do a live cleanse before your routine, but after several months on NBE it's very advisable. I actually tend to do a small liver cleanse while on NBE every once in a while.
chiquita83
(Login chiquita83)
thx moon
December 22 2006, 7:29 PM
i think i will try SP first and see how it goes for me...how long do you think i should give it before considering switching to nettle???
TwinkieStar
(no login)
Saw Palmetto for men??
December 22 2006, 10:27 PM
I noticed that SP seemed to be a key ingredient for growth, so yesterday I was about to buy some. But then I noticed that the label promoted the fact that it fights prostate cancer. Then on the back, it said it was meant for men. Is it still safe for us women to be taking it?
Moon
(Login -Moon-)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: question on SAW PALMETTO VS. NETTLE ROOT???Pls help
December 23 2006, 11:10 AM
@Chiquita - You would probably need to give it at least 3 months, because if the routine won't work, you also won't be able to know for sure which herb wasn't the right one, SP or some other, or if it wasn't even some other factor. If you do lots of trials and change only one herb/factor and notice a difference, then you can attribute the difference to the change accurately, but as you are making los of changes when starting - all the new herbs, you won't be able to know for sure, so it will probably take a few trials. We all do NBE by starting with the most reasonable popular combination and then add some, remove some herbs and see what it does.
@TwinkieStar - SP has been used effectively for prostate problems for a long time, but that doesn't mean it's only for men. I mean look arround, pretty much all women on this board are taking it. NBE is a very unknown thing and it happens repeatedly that a woman doing NBE walks into a specialized store to buy herbs and the sale person stares at her astonished and says SP is only for men and fenugreek is only for women in menopuse.
emmie
(Login emmiedee)
hey chiquita
December 23 2006, 5:58 PM
just saw your questions...
i am on a bo routine, not an herbs routine, though i do take some to help boost my boobies... i take saw palmetto and barley, and borage oil and royal jelly and flax seed oil and vitamin e and am i forgetting any? sigh... im just a pill-popping fiend! my program is on the program page, but it is a bo routine so it isnt too much help for those on herbs...
big hugs, everyone...
TwinkieStar
(no login)
thanks
December 23 2006, 6:06 PM
Thanks Moon for the clarification!