[hannah]

Yes and pm + spearmint tea and or green tea which are anti androgens is a good combination too. But nbe also includes a healthy and nutritious diet.

Spearmint is good for mild androgen excess, but not enough if you have a lot excess, I would suggest you NOT use green tea since you possess ovaries. Green tea is a potent anti-androgen, yes, but it's also a potent anti-aromatase in the ovaries. While it's also pro-aromatase in adipose tissue, this is not enough to compensate for it's anti activity in the ovaries. For MtF's like myself, we don't have ovaries for this to be a worry, and the pro-aromatase activity in our adipose is a plus.

Okay thank you...not cool to hear that about green-tea though even sp(A anti-androgen!) is also anti-estrogen...so can we say we can take it only not too much is still beneficial? bc what other anti-androgen choices we have left?

Honestly, not many. And most of them are weak. Spearmint/peppermint are weakly anti-androgen and VERY weakly anti-estrogen, the only thing I know of that is strongly anti-androgen while only weakly anti-estrogen are any sources of high coumarin but not coumarins. Tonka bean is expensive but should work.

There might be ones I don't know about, but I only trust what I can find actual research on, so that does automatically limit me compared to most folks around here who are willing to try ANYTHING.

Well we disagree, most girls I know out here wouldtn try these tonka beans you try to throw in the group here....Then I'd rather go by personal experience...you have any with tonka beans? It seems highly toxic,...then yeh Id rather try anything BUT tonka beans..

Its not cool that you are confusing us on BN without any research maybe you could show us some....Bc mines is so disagreeing wth tonka beans...with actually most things you say...I think you know that whatever you say is not always agreeing with BN, then better give us some off your actual research so we can put your information in the right place, all it does right now is confusing me and after the toxic tonka bean tip, I really cant believe a thing you say..unfortunately.