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Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 27 2009 at 2:06 PM Sri (Login allforwellbeing)
Dear All,
I m confused once i get into the hormonal imbalances check list.. Sorry for the long mail. Pls. be patient and help.. someone who is wellknown in this field. Will be so grateful.
I have these below prbs mostly:
1. I used to be thin till my 17 yrs, flat chested, never have interest to eat more, very slow eater, later during my college days, slowly i got interested to eat more n gained weight more.
2. Now, i m 27 yrs old, 5'3'' and weighing 59kg. I m married and have a kid of 3 yrs old now. I stopped breast feeding 1 1/2 yrs before. I felt the growth when i breastfeeded.
3. My breast size is 34b (Sometime fit to C). I have mass only in my lower breast, but my upper breast seems almost flat always, saggy breast a bit.
4. I have head ache problem whenever i concentrate a lot either in system or in any books or if i watch TV or movies for a long time may be an hour or so.
5. I have polystic ovaries prb and i cured through homoe medicines.
6. I get my menstrual cycle once in every 32 - 34 days, very rarely used to skip for more than a week or 2.
7. I feel to masturbate the clitoris when i feel hurt or much tensed. This habbit is with me for a long time. Attimes, i wanted avoid it controlling, attimes i relax by doing it to let me cool down.
8. I loose my temper very soon when someone hurts or irritates me or disappoints me.
9. I m a pure vegetarian.
10. I have been teased a lot during my school days for me being dark. Also, they used to make fun by comparing me with my classmate as my boyfriend which used to irritate me a lot. I have those hurtings much for years together.
11. I get more nightmares about that guy even till today if i feel hurt by any of the current situations. Apart from that also, i get more nightmares.
12. Since i used to be thin till my college days, i never used bra till that. Only then, i started using it.
13. I long for true love. I believe in my love but been frustated due to the failure. I m very sensitive attimes and casual otherwise. I dont know how the mood changes.
14. I used to be brave attimes. But, opposite the other time.
I hope in only that final yrs of school days, my growth bud stops. may be normal or due to the mental stress that i had since i faced the above prb much.
I hope these are happening within me.. Can anyone pls let me know what imbalance should be with me, if any, if any of u can find it probably, pls let me know..
Coz, i dont believe i can go out here to check this things with any doctor, coz, my family is very orthodoxed family same case with hubby and his family.
But, he is very much a crazy guy for a shaped breast and beautiful boucy breast. Pls. help me out to let me know what the imbalance i might have so that i can do something accordingly...
with luv,
Sri
waxingmoon
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Re: Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 27 2009, 4:06 PM
Hi Sri,
The thing that is the most telling of your account is that you had polycystic ovaries. This would indicate a tendency toward excess estrogen and deficient progesterone. I know you say this was treated with hormones, but the condition my have a lasting effect.
You also state you have a long cycle - 32 to 34 days. This also might indicate hormone problems, but since you were able to get pregnant and give birth the hormone imbalance must not be that great.
If you are looking to balance your hormones then you might try Vitex. It would probably help with any polycyctic ovarian problems as well and it would likely regulate your cycles to a shorter period.
You are already starting with a fairly large breast as a 34b. This usually means it will be easier for you to respond to NBE. Since you find you have less breast tissue in the upper part of your breast it would be good for you to follow one of the massage techniques. You can find them listed on the main page of the forum.
You say you are a pure vegetarian. Do you eat eggs or milk products? If not you are likely low in protein which can make it difficult for NBE. At your size it would be a good idea to try to eat at least 75 - 100 grams of protein per day for NBE. The more this protein comes from animal sources the better. Our bodies do not process vegetable proteins as well as animal proteins. If you eat no animal products at all then make sure you combine your plant proteins so you get the right mix of amino acids (mix nuts and legumes with grains).
You did not talk about exercise, but it can be a great thing for stress. Also, push ups can help develop the upper part of the breast area and lift breasts that tend to sag.
If you are concerned about hormone balance then try to create an NBE plan that does not rely on herbs as they can cause imbalances systems to become further imbalanced. There are several women who have had great results with massage and boobie friendly foods.
I hope this has been some help.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
Sri
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Re: Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 28 2009, 5:49 AM
Dear Waxingmoon,
Nice to see a detailed answer n for ur patience to read the whole of my story.. ;-)
Thanks for the info. I really dont know if the polysctic ovaries prb remains with me yet. I need to check. Also, doctor informed that is the reason i get delayed periods. This delayed problem(34days) is with me from the time of puperty itself.
Also, i have heavy breasts before my menstrual cycle and i feel pain in it. I feel my breast to be filled out n aching at those times.. May be water retention prb is the cause.
For my case, can u suggest me which massage could be really helpful. I have slightly saggy breasts as well as upper breasts are almost flat.
As for as exercise, i really didnt have a regular part due to busy life schedule. But, i m not determined to do it regularly.. let me see.
As for as pushups, i really a forum here, some over did n lost the one they had. Can u advise what no. of pushups is normal n good to do.
I have gained mostly fat around my upper arms, lovehandles, stomach and thighs. I dont know how to redirect to breast.. ;-)
So, already being fat, if i take more milk and protein shakes, will that not add up extra pounds in me.. Pls. advise me in this concern.
Also, i will check the forum about the healthy eating habbits myself too.
Thanks for ur help once again. Pls. advise me for my confusions.
Let me get cleared my doubts and start with Vitex.
love,
Sri.
Sri
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Re: Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 28 2009, 6:45 AM
Dear Waxingmoon,
Also, the other prbs i have is, i get giddiness recently often. Also, i had weight gain few months before. I dont know if they both are too due to any hormonal changes or due to new food style and environment. I m in a new environment now.
I feel more headache if i concentrate in anything. Also, stress damages me a lot. I m really a bit now ok n started managing me to be cool.
I have hairloss n hairs are becoming so dry. My eyes are also a bit dry. I get mouth odour sometimes but not always.
I have facial hair, also in my hands n legs from my small age. I have a belly gain even when i m thin.
I hope these are the symptoms of me. Is there any way, we can fix in what category i m n try taking something accordingly.
Without knowing all this, thinking if fenugreek will help, i took fenugreek seeds n busttea for a week or so few months before then scared n stopped if that will create any trouble to take without proper guidance.
Now, i really feel happy n thanks to all for who sharing n helping others to get into good health n good boobs.
Thanks for ur help. Pls. help me identify with what category i suit.
love,
Sri
itsjust4fun91
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Re: Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 28 2009, 2:35 PM
I'm new to the board and have only posted over on the BO board, BUT I couldn't not post an answer to this. I completely agree with the estrogen dominance. I've walked that road myself before. It can be very frustrating and really just adds on to your stress load wondering what in the world is wrong with me, when your estrogen gets so imbalanced that it begins effecting you emotionally, which in turn only makes it worse. It's a terrible cycle. I went to the doctor and while they could tell me that all my results said I was in perimenopause, I refused to accept that because I was only 36! There had to be something better than the synthetic hormones which I wasn't a canidate for because of breast cancer running in my family so strongly. I began researching and coming across Dr. Lee's book on "What your doctor may not tell you about premenopause" saved my sanity.
my periods were every 34 to 35 days and so heavy I couldn't leave home the first 3 days. I cramped terribly. I had fibroid cyst in breast. I had migraines constantly. I was emotional. I was paranoid. I was obsessive. I had anxiety attacks, all of which stunned me. I was known as the most laid back, level headed person most people had ever met until this point. It was a shock to them as much as me and all I could do was beg for understanding from them all.
Natural progesterone cream was a God Send and quick. I had the migraines and heavy bleeding under constrol by the end of the first cycle. the next one was a perfect 28 days like they use to be. I was beginning to know what peace of mind was again. I really cannot say enough about the use of this stuff. I also experienced a bonus of my breast perking back up from where I had breast fed and though I no longer need the cream after a 1 1/2 years, the perkiness stayed with me. yeah!
Eventually, if you stay with a complete regiment of vitamins, avoiding stress, taking care of yourself and using the cream. your body will begin working properly on it's on again. I sign that this was going on was when I began getting the emotional swings again. This time it was due to too much progesterone, because I no longer needed a suppliment. My body was doing it all on it's own. I stopped my cream and have been running smoothly ever since.
For me, it made me feel very insecure going through this. It's hard for other people around you to "really" understand what is happening to you even when you try to explain it and you feel like you're in a one man life raft fighting for your life. I'm here to tell you there is land in sight! LOL
It seems to be happening to more and more women at younger ages now. It's pretty shocking in fact how many woman under 40 are beginning to have these problems, ut at least you're not alone.
Good luck with your journey to find balance again.
Melissa
Britney
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Re: Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 29 2009, 10:57 PM
Hi, just wondering. What kind of cream are you using??
Sri
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Re: Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 30 2009, 1:31 PM
Dear All,
Well.. Nice to see the response of itsjust4fun91. Thank u yaar. What u felt before was the same one i m suffering now.. esp. the mood swing n anxiety, which i couldnt control n much used to worry for it. So, is that clear from all my above mentioned symptoms that i m estrogen dominant n progesterone deficient girl.
So, can i start using Vitex or the Progesterone cream. Does Milk Thistle has the same effect? Can any of u pls tell some good brands to buy those in net. Can u give me some ideas in this concern.
Or is it available in medical shops r Vitamin shops?
Itsjust4fun91, can u pls mention as what is the name of the cream u used so that i can start over that..
Is that cream alone is enough r should i eat some other natural herbs or species as such?
Ok, eagerly waiting for the replies of seniors so that i can start over my journey in a safer way with all the elders' support n encouragement...(LOL)
love,
Sri
Sri
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July 30 2009, 1:42 PM
Dear All,
I also need some advise in food part.. Like, what should i avoid in my particular case n what foods boost me up as per my imbalance level. Can i take more milk? I dont take egg or any Non Veg.. I dont like the smell. Then, does taking more milk, cheese, paneer or butter will again increase only my estrogen r it's safer n advisable to drink more milk n milk products?
Also, what particular vegetables, fruits are good to me for my breast growth n hormonal balance.. Pls. suggest. Can i have more nuts, dates, corn, dal, beans.. pls share what healthy food turn out to make me more balanced n healthier. Pls. suggest.
love,
Sri
waxingmoon
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Re: Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 30 2009, 2:02 PM
Hi Sri,
Just4fun91 made a great post explaining the effects of estrogen dominance. Her story matches my own in many ways. She also gave you the name of a great book by Dr John Lee: "What your doctor may not tell you about premenopause". So that you can better understand what is happening to your body and the best way to treat it - you need to have that book.
With that book you can safely use progesterone cream. Without that book I would not recommend you try progesterone. If you have estrogen dominance of the level that Just4fun91 described then it will be a long journey to resolve your symptoms.
There are no phyto-progesterone herbs according to Dr John Lee. Any herb that can bind directly to the progesterone receptors will lower progesterone. So, other than using the lab created progesterone cream there is nothing that will mimic our body's progesterone.
There is one herb however that can cause your body to raise progesterone levels. That is vitex. It works by stimulating your body to produce more progesterone after you ovulate. It takes at least 3 months of use before you begin to have much result from it. Vitex is very safe to use. There are no cases of overdose of it and because it works within your body's natural system of regulation, you cannot over-produce progesterone as a result of taking it. There are reports of women taking vitex for years duration without harmful effects.
My suggestion is to begin by taking vitex. Get the book by Dr. Lee. Read the book by Dr. Lee. Once you have read that book you will be ready to use progesterone cream. Depending on the country you live in you may be able to find progesterone cream easily. There are many different brands - some are better than others. Here is a great article that talks about progesterone and at the bottom of the page has a wonderful review of several types:
http://www.progesterone-research.com/
As far as nutrition there are many thing you can do to cut down on your exposure to harmful artificial estrogens (the kind that make estrogen dominance so bad) -
Avoid: pesticides, plastics (plastic food dishes, plastic wraps - never heat food in plastic - don't drink from plastic water bottles that have been allowed to get hot). Avoid food from animals treated with artificial hormones, and any artificial hormones such as birth control.
Reduce your stress. You will need to do some sort of mild exercise daily. Take a walk or swim or do something that you find calming. Yoga can be very good.
Increase your protein. Protein has the same amount of calories as carbohydrates. So if you are worried about gaining weight then as you increase your protein - reduce your consumption of carbohydrates like bread, pasta, rice, etc. Don't cut down on vegetables though. Vegetables hardly have any calories anyway and they contain a lot of protective phytoestrogens that can help to lower your body's total estrogen. Eat lots of vegetables.
Take crushed flaxseed. Flaxseed is a lignan, which is a very low dose phytoestrogen. It will help to block your receptors from more potent estrogens. One to two tablespoons a day is good. You can add it to cereals or smoothies. It has a nutty, pleasant taste.
This would be a good way to start. In time you will feel much better, but it is going to take some work.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
itsjust4fun91
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Re: Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 30 2009, 2:47 PM
I agree on getting the book first. There is alot of information in there that you really need to tackle this problem. The cream is fantastic, BUT you want your body to eventually kick in and be able to do this on it's own, instead of relying on the cream for ever. In order to do that, there are many adjustments you need to make-- vitamins,household products. ect. Also the directions on how to use it. You can just as easily swing in the opposite direction of not enough estrogen if you just slather this stuff on,(as tempting as that is at times)
I get my cream from www.womenshealth.com they have an excellent product and the price is very very reasonable. I get the 3 bottles at a time option which ends up making it about 13 dollars a tube.I've tried a few other brands, but either didn't like the consistency, or it just seemed to not be working. I also discussed using this product with my GYN who was fascinated and kind of excited that she had her own personal test subject to see how it worked.
My husband was extremely grateful that I began using this stuff. LOL. So grateful in fact that whenever one of his friends would complain about their wife, he would say, "You need to get them some of that progesterone cream man. It's good stuff." LOL, I think he never came out and told me that he thought I had become a psycho, but I think his peddling the stuff says plenty.
I have bought copies of this book repeatedly and gave them away to friends that were having hormone issues. I got them very cheap in the used book section of amazon.com
The book not only addresses the issues you are having, BUT Dr. Lee also includes many stories of his patients to show that we are not alone in what we are going through.
One of the really disappointing things for me before I began the cream was how saggy and floppy my breast had become. I thought hey, I thought girls with no breast are supposed to never have to deal with sagging. Isn't that the line peoplt throw at you to make you feel better about not having much? So you can imagine my dismay when they did indeed start to sag. LOL.
The cream perked them back up pretty fast. It also did an awesome job on helping with some of those facial wrinkles I had begun to lament over. Progesterone is absorbed into the fat cells and plumps them up and is stored there until the body needs to use it. On the other side of that, those cells can also become too saturated and not do you a bit of good. So you can see the need for learning the exact balance to succeed with this.
I of course can never do as good of a job of explaining this all to you as Dr. Lee himself, and while he has passed away now, new books come out all the time, because his partner has continued with her studying and promoting this natural way to find balance. So if you don't do anything else for yourself this week, DO get the book. You won't regret it.
Melissa
itsjust4fun91
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Re: Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 30 2009, 3:08 PM
I just looked at the start here forum for newcomers and it looks like waxingmoon has really covered all the bases with estrogen dominance, you should go check it out. It kind of makes me quesy to read through the list of symptoms and know that at one time, I had ALL of them! Yes I even was having gallbladder attacks. I refused to let the docs take mine out though and am glad I did! I started doing liver and gallbladder flushes and saved my gallbladder!
It's amazing the things that hormones can effect and no the doctors don't always get this. They want to treat the symptom most times instead of the cause, when in fact they may all be related!
So head on over to the other forum and read read read! Knowledge is power, and half the battle of beating this is arming yourself with as much knowledge as possible.
Melissa
July 27 2009 at 2:06 PM Sri (Login allforwellbeing)
Dear All,
I m confused once i get into the hormonal imbalances check list.. Sorry for the long mail. Pls. be patient and help.. someone who is wellknown in this field. Will be so grateful.
I have these below prbs mostly:
1. I used to be thin till my 17 yrs, flat chested, never have interest to eat more, very slow eater, later during my college days, slowly i got interested to eat more n gained weight more.
2. Now, i m 27 yrs old, 5'3'' and weighing 59kg. I m married and have a kid of 3 yrs old now. I stopped breast feeding 1 1/2 yrs before. I felt the growth when i breastfeeded.
3. My breast size is 34b (Sometime fit to C). I have mass only in my lower breast, but my upper breast seems almost flat always, saggy breast a bit.
4. I have head ache problem whenever i concentrate a lot either in system or in any books or if i watch TV or movies for a long time may be an hour or so.
5. I have polystic ovaries prb and i cured through homoe medicines.
6. I get my menstrual cycle once in every 32 - 34 days, very rarely used to skip for more than a week or 2.
7. I feel to masturbate the clitoris when i feel hurt or much tensed. This habbit is with me for a long time. Attimes, i wanted avoid it controlling, attimes i relax by doing it to let me cool down.
8. I loose my temper very soon when someone hurts or irritates me or disappoints me.
9. I m a pure vegetarian.
10. I have been teased a lot during my school days for me being dark. Also, they used to make fun by comparing me with my classmate as my boyfriend which used to irritate me a lot. I have those hurtings much for years together.
11. I get more nightmares about that guy even till today if i feel hurt by any of the current situations. Apart from that also, i get more nightmares.
12. Since i used to be thin till my college days, i never used bra till that. Only then, i started using it.
13. I long for true love. I believe in my love but been frustated due to the failure. I m very sensitive attimes and casual otherwise. I dont know how the mood changes.
14. I used to be brave attimes. But, opposite the other time.
I hope in only that final yrs of school days, my growth bud stops. may be normal or due to the mental stress that i had since i faced the above prb much.
I hope these are happening within me.. Can anyone pls let me know what imbalance should be with me, if any, if any of u can find it probably, pls let me know..
Coz, i dont believe i can go out here to check this things with any doctor, coz, my family is very orthodoxed family same case with hubby and his family.
But, he is very much a crazy guy for a shaped breast and beautiful boucy breast. Pls. help me out to let me know what the imbalance i might have so that i can do something accordingly...
with luv,
Sri
waxingmoon
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 27 2009, 4:06 PM
Hi Sri,
The thing that is the most telling of your account is that you had polycystic ovaries. This would indicate a tendency toward excess estrogen and deficient progesterone. I know you say this was treated with hormones, but the condition my have a lasting effect.
You also state you have a long cycle - 32 to 34 days. This also might indicate hormone problems, but since you were able to get pregnant and give birth the hormone imbalance must not be that great.
If you are looking to balance your hormones then you might try Vitex. It would probably help with any polycyctic ovarian problems as well and it would likely regulate your cycles to a shorter period.
You are already starting with a fairly large breast as a 34b. This usually means it will be easier for you to respond to NBE. Since you find you have less breast tissue in the upper part of your breast it would be good for you to follow one of the massage techniques. You can find them listed on the main page of the forum.
You say you are a pure vegetarian. Do you eat eggs or milk products? If not you are likely low in protein which can make it difficult for NBE. At your size it would be a good idea to try to eat at least 75 - 100 grams of protein per day for NBE. The more this protein comes from animal sources the better. Our bodies do not process vegetable proteins as well as animal proteins. If you eat no animal products at all then make sure you combine your plant proteins so you get the right mix of amino acids (mix nuts and legumes with grains).
You did not talk about exercise, but it can be a great thing for stress. Also, push ups can help develop the upper part of the breast area and lift breasts that tend to sag.
If you are concerned about hormone balance then try to create an NBE plan that does not rely on herbs as they can cause imbalances systems to become further imbalanced. There are several women who have had great results with massage and boobie friendly foods.
I hope this has been some help.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
Sri
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Re: Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 28 2009, 5:49 AM
Dear Waxingmoon,
Nice to see a detailed answer n for ur patience to read the whole of my story.. ;-)
Thanks for the info. I really dont know if the polysctic ovaries prb remains with me yet. I need to check. Also, doctor informed that is the reason i get delayed periods. This delayed problem(34days) is with me from the time of puperty itself.
Also, i have heavy breasts before my menstrual cycle and i feel pain in it. I feel my breast to be filled out n aching at those times.. May be water retention prb is the cause.
For my case, can u suggest me which massage could be really helpful. I have slightly saggy breasts as well as upper breasts are almost flat.
As for as exercise, i really didnt have a regular part due to busy life schedule. But, i m not determined to do it regularly.. let me see.
As for as pushups, i really a forum here, some over did n lost the one they had. Can u advise what no. of pushups is normal n good to do.
I have gained mostly fat around my upper arms, lovehandles, stomach and thighs. I dont know how to redirect to breast.. ;-)
So, already being fat, if i take more milk and protein shakes, will that not add up extra pounds in me.. Pls. advise me in this concern.
Also, i will check the forum about the healthy eating habbits myself too.
Thanks for ur help once again. Pls. advise me for my confusions.
Let me get cleared my doubts and start with Vitex.
love,
Sri.
Sri
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July 28 2009, 6:45 AM
Dear Waxingmoon,
Also, the other prbs i have is, i get giddiness recently often. Also, i had weight gain few months before. I dont know if they both are too due to any hormonal changes or due to new food style and environment. I m in a new environment now.
I feel more headache if i concentrate in anything. Also, stress damages me a lot. I m really a bit now ok n started managing me to be cool.
I have hairloss n hairs are becoming so dry. My eyes are also a bit dry. I get mouth odour sometimes but not always.
I have facial hair, also in my hands n legs from my small age. I have a belly gain even when i m thin.
I hope these are the symptoms of me. Is there any way, we can fix in what category i m n try taking something accordingly.
Without knowing all this, thinking if fenugreek will help, i took fenugreek seeds n busttea for a week or so few months before then scared n stopped if that will create any trouble to take without proper guidance.
Now, i really feel happy n thanks to all for who sharing n helping others to get into good health n good boobs.
Thanks for ur help. Pls. help me identify with what category i suit.
love,
Sri
itsjust4fun91
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Re: Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 28 2009, 2:35 PM
I'm new to the board and have only posted over on the BO board, BUT I couldn't not post an answer to this. I completely agree with the estrogen dominance. I've walked that road myself before. It can be very frustrating and really just adds on to your stress load wondering what in the world is wrong with me, when your estrogen gets so imbalanced that it begins effecting you emotionally, which in turn only makes it worse. It's a terrible cycle. I went to the doctor and while they could tell me that all my results said I was in perimenopause, I refused to accept that because I was only 36! There had to be something better than the synthetic hormones which I wasn't a canidate for because of breast cancer running in my family so strongly. I began researching and coming across Dr. Lee's book on "What your doctor may not tell you about premenopause" saved my sanity.
my periods were every 34 to 35 days and so heavy I couldn't leave home the first 3 days. I cramped terribly. I had fibroid cyst in breast. I had migraines constantly. I was emotional. I was paranoid. I was obsessive. I had anxiety attacks, all of which stunned me. I was known as the most laid back, level headed person most people had ever met until this point. It was a shock to them as much as me and all I could do was beg for understanding from them all.
Natural progesterone cream was a God Send and quick. I had the migraines and heavy bleeding under constrol by the end of the first cycle. the next one was a perfect 28 days like they use to be. I was beginning to know what peace of mind was again. I really cannot say enough about the use of this stuff. I also experienced a bonus of my breast perking back up from where I had breast fed and though I no longer need the cream after a 1 1/2 years, the perkiness stayed with me. yeah!
Eventually, if you stay with a complete regiment of vitamins, avoiding stress, taking care of yourself and using the cream. your body will begin working properly on it's on again. I sign that this was going on was when I began getting the emotional swings again. This time it was due to too much progesterone, because I no longer needed a suppliment. My body was doing it all on it's own. I stopped my cream and have been running smoothly ever since.
For me, it made me feel very insecure going through this. It's hard for other people around you to "really" understand what is happening to you even when you try to explain it and you feel like you're in a one man life raft fighting for your life. I'm here to tell you there is land in sight! LOL
It seems to be happening to more and more women at younger ages now. It's pretty shocking in fact how many woman under 40 are beginning to have these problems, ut at least you're not alone.
Good luck with your journey to find balance again.
Melissa
Britney
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Re: Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 29 2009, 10:57 PM
Hi, just wondering. What kind of cream are you using??
Sri
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Re: Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 30 2009, 1:31 PM
Dear All,
Well.. Nice to see the response of itsjust4fun91. Thank u yaar. What u felt before was the same one i m suffering now.. esp. the mood swing n anxiety, which i couldnt control n much used to worry for it. So, is that clear from all my above mentioned symptoms that i m estrogen dominant n progesterone deficient girl.
So, can i start using Vitex or the Progesterone cream. Does Milk Thistle has the same effect? Can any of u pls tell some good brands to buy those in net. Can u give me some ideas in this concern.
Or is it available in medical shops r Vitamin shops?
Itsjust4fun91, can u pls mention as what is the name of the cream u used so that i can start over that..
Is that cream alone is enough r should i eat some other natural herbs or species as such?
Ok, eagerly waiting for the replies of seniors so that i can start over my journey in a safer way with all the elders' support n encouragement...(LOL)
love,
Sri
Sri
(Login allforwellbeing)
Re: Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 30 2009, 1:42 PM
Dear All,
I also need some advise in food part.. Like, what should i avoid in my particular case n what foods boost me up as per my imbalance level. Can i take more milk? I dont take egg or any Non Veg.. I dont like the smell. Then, does taking more milk, cheese, paneer or butter will again increase only my estrogen r it's safer n advisable to drink more milk n milk products?
Also, what particular vegetables, fruits are good to me for my breast growth n hormonal balance.. Pls. suggest. Can i have more nuts, dates, corn, dal, beans.. pls share what healthy food turn out to make me more balanced n healthier. Pls. suggest.
love,
Sri
waxingmoon
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Re: Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 30 2009, 2:02 PM
Hi Sri,
Just4fun91 made a great post explaining the effects of estrogen dominance. Her story matches my own in many ways. She also gave you the name of a great book by Dr John Lee: "What your doctor may not tell you about premenopause". So that you can better understand what is happening to your body and the best way to treat it - you need to have that book.
With that book you can safely use progesterone cream. Without that book I would not recommend you try progesterone. If you have estrogen dominance of the level that Just4fun91 described then it will be a long journey to resolve your symptoms.
There are no phyto-progesterone herbs according to Dr John Lee. Any herb that can bind directly to the progesterone receptors will lower progesterone. So, other than using the lab created progesterone cream there is nothing that will mimic our body's progesterone.
There is one herb however that can cause your body to raise progesterone levels. That is vitex. It works by stimulating your body to produce more progesterone after you ovulate. It takes at least 3 months of use before you begin to have much result from it. Vitex is very safe to use. There are no cases of overdose of it and because it works within your body's natural system of regulation, you cannot over-produce progesterone as a result of taking it. There are reports of women taking vitex for years duration without harmful effects.
My suggestion is to begin by taking vitex. Get the book by Dr. Lee. Read the book by Dr. Lee. Once you have read that book you will be ready to use progesterone cream. Depending on the country you live in you may be able to find progesterone cream easily. There are many different brands - some are better than others. Here is a great article that talks about progesterone and at the bottom of the page has a wonderful review of several types:
http://www.progesterone-research.com/
As far as nutrition there are many thing you can do to cut down on your exposure to harmful artificial estrogens (the kind that make estrogen dominance so bad) -
Avoid: pesticides, plastics (plastic food dishes, plastic wraps - never heat food in plastic - don't drink from plastic water bottles that have been allowed to get hot). Avoid food from animals treated with artificial hormones, and any artificial hormones such as birth control.
Reduce your stress. You will need to do some sort of mild exercise daily. Take a walk or swim or do something that you find calming. Yoga can be very good.
Increase your protein. Protein has the same amount of calories as carbohydrates. So if you are worried about gaining weight then as you increase your protein - reduce your consumption of carbohydrates like bread, pasta, rice, etc. Don't cut down on vegetables though. Vegetables hardly have any calories anyway and they contain a lot of protective phytoestrogens that can help to lower your body's total estrogen. Eat lots of vegetables.
Take crushed flaxseed. Flaxseed is a lignan, which is a very low dose phytoestrogen. It will help to block your receptors from more potent estrogens. One to two tablespoons a day is good. You can add it to cereals or smoothies. It has a nutty, pleasant taste.
This would be a good way to start. In time you will feel much better, but it is going to take some work.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
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Re: Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 30 2009, 2:47 PM
I agree on getting the book first. There is alot of information in there that you really need to tackle this problem. The cream is fantastic, BUT you want your body to eventually kick in and be able to do this on it's own, instead of relying on the cream for ever. In order to do that, there are many adjustments you need to make-- vitamins,household products. ect. Also the directions on how to use it. You can just as easily swing in the opposite direction of not enough estrogen if you just slather this stuff on,(as tempting as that is at times)
I get my cream from www.womenshealth.com they have an excellent product and the price is very very reasonable. I get the 3 bottles at a time option which ends up making it about 13 dollars a tube.I've tried a few other brands, but either didn't like the consistency, or it just seemed to not be working. I also discussed using this product with my GYN who was fascinated and kind of excited that she had her own personal test subject to see how it worked.
My husband was extremely grateful that I began using this stuff. LOL. So grateful in fact that whenever one of his friends would complain about their wife, he would say, "You need to get them some of that progesterone cream man. It's good stuff." LOL, I think he never came out and told me that he thought I had become a psycho, but I think his peddling the stuff says plenty.
I have bought copies of this book repeatedly and gave them away to friends that were having hormone issues. I got them very cheap in the used book section of amazon.com
The book not only addresses the issues you are having, BUT Dr. Lee also includes many stories of his patients to show that we are not alone in what we are going through.
One of the really disappointing things for me before I began the cream was how saggy and floppy my breast had become. I thought hey, I thought girls with no breast are supposed to never have to deal with sagging. Isn't that the line peoplt throw at you to make you feel better about not having much? So you can imagine my dismay when they did indeed start to sag. LOL.
The cream perked them back up pretty fast. It also did an awesome job on helping with some of those facial wrinkles I had begun to lament over. Progesterone is absorbed into the fat cells and plumps them up and is stored there until the body needs to use it. On the other side of that, those cells can also become too saturated and not do you a bit of good. So you can see the need for learning the exact balance to succeed with this.
I of course can never do as good of a job of explaining this all to you as Dr. Lee himself, and while he has passed away now, new books come out all the time, because his partner has continued with her studying and promoting this natural way to find balance. So if you don't do anything else for yourself this week, DO get the book. You won't regret it.
Melissa
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Re: Figure out my imbalance and help pls.
July 30 2009, 3:08 PM
I just looked at the start here forum for newcomers and it looks like waxingmoon has really covered all the bases with estrogen dominance, you should go check it out. It kind of makes me quesy to read through the list of symptoms and know that at one time, I had ALL of them! Yes I even was having gallbladder attacks. I refused to let the docs take mine out though and am glad I did! I started doing liver and gallbladder flushes and saved my gallbladder!
It's amazing the things that hormones can effect and no the doctors don't always get this. They want to treat the symptom most times instead of the cause, when in fact they may all be related!
So head on over to the other forum and read read read! Knowledge is power, and half the battle of beating this is arming yourself with as much knowledge as possible.
Melissa